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Do GenX women want all play and no work?
Newkerala ^ | 5/13/04 | IANS

Posted on 05/14/2004 6:56:16 AM PDT by qam1

London, May 13 (IANS) :

'What's mine is mine, and what's his is mine!' New research says this is the maxim of GenX women who want to be housewives who don't really work.

Young mothers are rejecting equality in the workplace and preferring the idea of becoming full-time housewives - but not ones who actually do housework.

This is the overall conclusion of research among 2,100 British adults that says women are happy to abandon the workplace but not if it means spending all day at home cooking, cleaning and looking after children.

Instead they want to play the "role" of housewife with a little help from, for instance, a nanny, and someone who does the ironing. Unlike Kylie Minogue, they don't want to do any dusting either.

The report, by Marian Salzman, chief strategic officer of Euro RSCG Worldwide, the world's fifth largest advertising agency, describes these women as princess-style "domestic divas" who effectively exploit their husbands.

"Today, 'women's lib' means wanting to be liberated from the intense pressures of the modern-day working mum," she said.

"And what we're seeing is a serious gender divide regarding women in the workplace. This time around, it is the women who want to stay at home and the men who want to keep them in the offices and factories."

Salzman, 45, who does not have children, is well known in the United States for spotting trends before they go mainstream. She predicted the rise of 1970s fashion nostalgia and, on the eve of the "Bridget Jones" phenomenon, spotted that single professional women would become the new, free-spending yuppies.

Her report last year, "the Future of Men", predicted that "metrosexuals" - straight men who care about fashion, food and grooming - would be the new target of advertisers.

She said 69 percent of women thought it perfectly acceptable for females to be housewives and not to earn a salary. In contrast, only 48 percent of men felt that women should remain outside paid employment.

Her research suggested that the motivation to spend more time at home was "self-centred" for some women. "There are many women who choose to stay home out of concern for their children's quality of life," she said. "But there are plenty of others who are paying lip service to being the 2004 version of the perfect mum.

"In reality they are domestic divas who want the flawless kids, courtesy of the nanny; a spotless home, thanks to a cleaning service; and a reputation for being a fabulously put-together homemaker.

"These are the women who are becoming a target of disdain and rage on the part of spouses who didn't expect to be shouldering the financial burden single-handedly."

She said she was not talking about mothers with very young children but those whose offspring were older and in full-time education.

Jill Kirby, the chairman of the family group at the Centre for Policy Studies think-tank, said: "It's very clear that women who have the choice between working and being at home with their children still want to prioritise their home life and life with their children."


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KEYWORDS: feminism; genx; stayathomemoms
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To: HungarianGypsy
He doesn't have packages chasing after him asking questions or calling his name.

LOL! Unfortunately, my husband's owner employer follows him home, sometimes even if he's not here. But we "appendages" don't ever follow him to work, isn't that strange ...

Yesterday one of his coworkers called while I was ironing, wondering why my husband wasn't in some meeting. "I'm sorry, this is the house phone," I said, in my best Executive Secretary voice. I'm NOT happy with the fact that some unknown number of clueless nerds have my home phone number!

81 posted on 05/14/2004 11:35:59 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I can see you, but you can't see me.)
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To: qam1

Ridiculous.

Note this article focuses on British women, not Americans.

I still think if a wife is capable of working, and kids aren't in the picture, she should work.


82 posted on 05/14/2004 11:39:31 AM PDT by k2blader (The equivalent of Nick Berg’s murder happens in our nation every 24 seconds. And it’s legal.)
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To: k2blader
if a wife is capable of working, and kids aren't in the picture, she should work

Why? This implies that a wife's value or contribution to her husband is only (a) cash income or (b) child care.

Imagine what a pleasant home life a man would have if his wife were able to devote herself largely to supporting him and meeting his needs. A clean, quiet, well-decorated home ... a woman with time to dress nicely, exercise, and fix herself up to look good just for him ... carefully prepared, un-rushed meals ... household matters taken care of without his attention ...

If she's a typical modern girl who's been brought up to be clueless around the house, she could be learning to cook and sew, learning to care for children, etc. She could be contributing to the community, making nice to the in-laws, developing friendships that both spouses enjoy ...

Your opinion seems to reflect a strictly material view of the marriage relationship - that economic values are what matter most.

83 posted on 05/14/2004 11:50:47 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I can see you, but you can't see me.)
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To: Tax-chick

Ha! Ha! I do so much secretarial work for him that I told him I expect something for next Administrative Professionals Day.


84 posted on 05/14/2004 11:53:55 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy (I'm voting for Kerry....After I vote for Bush!!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Yeah, lazy me, I painted the deck today and now I'm going to try to fix the lawn mower. Maybe,if I'm lucky I'll have to go shopping later for new parts at Wal-Mart. Most days I don't have time to read on line but today the baby took a nap. I also used this special "down time" to do luxurious things like pee alone and pay bills that little ones wont rip down from the table!!
85 posted on 05/14/2004 11:55:52 AM PDT by KPfromDerryNH
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To: Tax-chick
"I think many husbands would be happy to pay a little money (if they had any, after groceries) if it meant their wives would have a little energy left for *them*."

Safe to say! I pay for our full-time nanny, a housecleaner, and a yard guy. I'd much rather have pleasant time with my wife rather than hear moaning about her being tired.

Anyone who purchases a new car each year can do all of the above, too (simply by holding off on the car purchase).

86 posted on 05/14/2004 11:58:19 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Well said.

And yet I'm still drawn to these threads like a bug to a lightbulb...


87 posted on 05/14/2004 12:00:10 PM PDT by RosieCotton (Anything worth doing is worth doing badly. - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Dianna

The problem I have come across a lot of time isn't the daytime hours. It's evenings and weekends. Of course, husbands work hard all day and should be able to relax when they get home, but sometimes a stay at home mom wants to get out. Even worse is that if he wants to go out and do something, but kids aren't allowed it's no problem. After all, there is always the built-in babysitter. In my more upset times I sometimes do feel like nothing more than a glorified babysitter.


88 posted on 05/14/2004 12:01:59 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (I'm voting for Kerry....After I vote for Bush!!)
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To: Southack

We don't get a new car EVER, but we could re-prioritize to afford help, if it was truly important to us, and I expect many families could.


89 posted on 05/14/2004 12:02:22 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I can see you, but you can't see me.)
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To: HungarianGypsy
After all, there is always the built-in babysitter.

That does get to me sometimes, too. I had to draw a line in the sand very strongly, just to get to a Weight Watchers meeting once a week! And most of the time I take at least two kids with me!

90 posted on 05/14/2004 12:06:59 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I can see you, but you can't see me.)
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To: HungarianGypsy

I know, I know this job is hard and it feels like I'm invisible and boring too. I used to have a great job, making beautiful flutes. Everyone thought I was interesting. I cant tell you how much I missed my kid..now I have two. I also worked as a machinist. That is hard, on your feet all day work. This is better. Between all the noise and contstant "Mommy watcha doin?" I get to know my kids. Then they willl grow up and be gone forever.


91 posted on 05/14/2004 12:09:58 PM PDT by KPfromDerryNH
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To: qam1

A "This should be an interesting thread to read later" BUMP!


92 posted on 05/14/2004 12:42:31 PM PDT by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is (still ) a Smug and Holier- than- Thou Socialist)
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To: Snerfling

47 - "Upper-middle to upper-class women have never had to work.

Here's a great example: what did the mother of Mary Poppins' charges do all day while her banker husband was away at work? Remember, she had a cook, maid and governess."

Good observation.

British ideals are different than American ideals - sort of the difference between 'Upstairs. Downstairs' and 'Little House on the Prarie'.

American women want to be 'equal'. British women want to be 'ladies'.

And believe me, the 'lady of the house' is different than a 'house wife'.


93 posted on 05/14/2004 12:45:36 PM PDT by XBob
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To: Tax-chick
"We don't get a new car EVER, but we could re-prioritize to afford help, if it was truly important to us, and I expect many families could."

Right. It's just a matter of priorities. One of my employees just had to have a new car, and bought one on credit first, only to then learn that he and his wife (with child on the way - now here) couldn't afford to buy even the smallest of homes...took him another year to get into a house. That's an example of mismatched priorities. He got what he *wanted* first, rather than what his family really needed.

People do that all of the time. They'll gladly spend $2,500 for a vacation trip or a plasma TV, but they'll complain that they can't put $500 a year into a college savings account for their child. It's just priorities. Most people *could* save, but they simply choose to spend their money on their current lifestyle.

But hey, it's a free country. People can do what they want, even if it means that they are acting stupid with their precious resources at hand.

94 posted on 05/14/2004 12:47:12 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
And you all who state things like "don't let down your guard or she'll neuter you" - implying that's exactly the intention of all women. That just sucks. And the other side of the coin in your comments is "*I* *man* need all the 'power'". That ain't so hot, either. So you just want everything your way, huh?

The realities of human psychobiology do not change, simply because we wish things were different.

95 posted on 05/14/2004 1:00:36 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: KPfromDerryNH
I'm going to try to fix the lawn mower

Hey I've got an old John Deere rider that needs rewiring. Come on over

96 posted on 05/14/2004 1:31:18 PM PDT by holdmuhbeer
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To: rintense
Guys, do you want a woman like this?

No way, But then again I think every guy says this but many woman just know how to wear a guy down to the point where the guy finds it easier to just give in instead of dealing with it.

I tend to ß¡†©¶ proof which is probably why I'm still single, Either the woman wants to treat you like crap or she wants to be treated like crap by you, It's hard to find a happy middle.

But as they say the biggest problem in marriage is immediately after a couple gets married the woman wants her husband to change but the guy wants his wife to stay exactly the same.

97 posted on 05/14/2004 2:38:52 PM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: qam1
The Xers women want to drive around in their Bimmer X5s taking their kids to soccer practice while drinking their Starbucks and toting their Kate Spade bags. As an Xer woman I can say this with reasonable certainty. And the women under 30 in this generation are even more shallow than that. Who can't believe it? We grew up in the hyper materialistic 1970s and 1980s- we are the first Designer Generation. What do you expect?

BTW- FWIW- I am not at all like the above, and I am VERY alarmed for our generation, and even moreso for our kids!

98 posted on 05/14/2004 2:53:41 PM PDT by lawgirl (God to womankind: "Here's Cary Grant. Now don't tell me I never gave you anything.")
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To: k2blader
I still think if a wife is capable of working, and kids aren't in the picture, she should work.

With this ring I thee wed, with my body I thee worship, and with all my worldly goods I thee endow.

Wedding Vow, Book of Common Prayer

100 posted on 05/14/2004 2:57:04 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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