Posted on 05/13/2004 11:48:42 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Edited on 05/26/2004 5:21:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
May 14, 2004 -- Nick Berg, the young American beheaded by terrorists in Iraq, had an earlier encounter with a Muslim fanatic - and inadvertently provided accused 9/11 al Qaeda operative Zacarias Moussaoui with his e-mail password. The bizarre twist was confirmed by the Justice Department and Berg's father. In what one Justice official described as a "coincidental" link, both the telecommunications whiz from West Chester, Pa., and the accused 9/11 conspirator were in Norman, Okla., in 2000.
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Eye-opening experiment: go to a store in a mall that demos the Palm Tungsten C or Tungsten T3 (these are the Wi-Fi Palm products). Click on the Wi-Fi access icon.
There's usually 3-6 networks, and a couple of these will be unsecured, ready to access.
A lot of folks just do not understand the need to secure their computers and network access, or how to do it.
"They killed thier best friend." IS a very strange thing to say. I think your theory is plausible. and Nick pretends to be a Bush/WOT supporter so he won't be under suspicion in Iraq...
I think these are the same guys, but I can't find the Berg's name anywhere, but on the home page, they mention just getting back from Guatemala (wasn't Nick Berg there?) and it is fow low powered FM stations, and they are located in PA.
Here's a start:
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Perhaps my memory is faulty, but wasn't the shared account a HOTMAIL account?
Correct, sir. I believe you have nailed it. After all the information released, so far, I have come to the same conculsion. This kid wasn’t so ‘innocent’ as his Daddy wants us to believe. Tragic consequences. Stupid liberals.
Sad.
Another report stated that he earned $70,000 in a month's time while in Iraq. On this thread, at post 469, Freeper P-Marlowe brings up some interesting facts about communications tower building and repairing. It sounds doubtful that he actually did any of that. So if he earned $70,000 in a month, you'd really have to ask "how"--and "where."
Travis, you might be interested in what MizSterious just posted.
I don't have time but bet the non violence web they have on that guys website is connected to the tides foundation,,wanta bet!
No bet. I don't make bets where I know I'm going to lose.
"The above is pure speculation on my part."
Your theory is perfectly plausible, and fits ALL the facts as well as anything. It also could explain the Moussoui/e-mail angle, maybe he actually was trying to help Moussoui out, and was fully aware of his role as a subversive, if not of his intended terrorism.
There's something a little pat in the way the dad says:My son was a Bush/War supporter. If you were the dad, wouldn't you add something like: even though I told him he was crazy/wrong.?
And there is a complete precedent for this in the Pearl murder. I'm not saying Pearl was a terrorist sympathizer, but he certainly was only after "the story", I don't think he was some CIA op. I'm not saying Berg was a terrorist sympathizer either, he may well have been another mis-guided "peace" activist. I'm fairly well convinced that he had no legitimate business interests in Iraq. I heard that those Halliburton truck drivers are making $8,000- a month, TAX FREE! That shows you just how dangerous it really is over there. Not the type of place to just go dropping off your business cards with potential customers.
I just clicked on the explore the non violence web,,you ought to go see it. They seem to be suggesting the us govt killed berg.
It has happened to me several times since GW was sworn in.
GW has this evil power over so many of us!
>> This was an attempt by the lunatic lib dad to preempt more questions about this unusual family. <<
Could they be an "unusual family" something like the Rosenbergs were in the 1940's to 1950's? Is that a possibility?
I ran a small university computer lab from '94 to '96 and was in charge of the school's e-mail system. The biggest problem we had was convincing not only the students, but the FACULTY, not to share their e-mail account information with anyone.
The FACULTY was always pi$$ed off at me because I wouldn't let them use their name as their password - how's that for security. And many students saw no problem with writting their account name AND password on the cover of their notebooks, not the inside cover, the outside cover!!
We even had one idiot, vegan, screaming liberal, wore a bandana around his neck all the time, philosophy professor give his FREE e-mail account to his step-son for the kid's birthday. (Could you get any cheaper than that!!!) Then this idiot has the nerve to complain to the president of the school when the kid hacks the mail system and we cancelled the professor's account!!
Strange coincidence -yes, anything deeper, not from my experience in the hall of higher ed!!!!
I think that in order to do this you'd probably need some kind of radio device connected to the computer, such as the SINCGARS radios used by the military.
You could also use a cell phone if you had one and send it that way, but I'm guessing that would be pretty easy to trace. And if I saw the cat actually hooking up a cell phone to my laptop even more red flags would start to go up.
As others have mentioned earlier you can connect to a wireless network with the right kind of card. However, in the year 2000 wireless networks weren't really all that prevalent yet, at least not like they are now. I seriously doubt the laptop was connected to a wireless network at the time. If the bus was in motion at the time (which isn't really clear in the story), I think it would pretty much have been impossible.
>> Nicholas Berg: A life of adventure
He saw his trip to Iraq, his father said, as an adventure, but one that fit into his ideology. He was a war supporter and backed the Bush administration.He helped set up electronics equipment at the Republican National Convention in Philadelphia in 2000.
~snip~ <<
It has been suggested he was setting up spy equipment on towers in Iraq. If true, what's to say he wasn't doing the same at the 2000 Republican Convention?
Then again it could have been just another well paid job so who cares about party affiliation and politics? Some contracters don't and just like to work and make money.
Personally I think the younger Berg was playing a dangerously ametuer game of "Jethro Bodine - Double Ought Spy."
I think the father himself is a good subject for a serious interrogation.
"Could they be an "unusual family" something like the Rosenbergs were in the 1940's to 1950's? Is that a possibility?"
Interesting that you make that link. In the latest exposure of an Islamofascist in the Portland, Oregon area, many Freepers felt that guy and his Egyptian born wife represented current Rosenbergs.
Personally, I believe that anyone who is a contributing and active member of A.N.S.W.E.R. and some of the other anti American organizations has the same genetic defect the Rosenbergs had.
Connected to what? How?
When did the govt. shut down troop access to email? A couple weeks ago? Could this have anything to do with it?
>> Well, in the video (I only watched the first part) Nick doesn't seem afraid. In fact, he looks pretty darn relaxed which leads me to believe he THOUGHT he had nothing to fear from them. <<
Your comments don't contradict what I said. He may well have become The Man Who Knew Too much and al Qaeda may have decided to get rid of him while using him as a propaganda tool. The old 2 birds with 1 stone.
No one says Nick Berg had to be told by his "friends" what they honestly had planned for him. From what little I saw of the video, Berg seemed much too calm for me to believe he knew how the final script had really been written.
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