Posted on 05/13/2004 2:05:20 PM PDT by kcvl
Wow!
For someone only 26 years old --- it seems he was getting questioned a lot by police -- the Iraqi police, the FBI --- and even a couple years ago when he was still in college, getting questioned by the FBI.
Kerry, if he has a brain, will keep Berg Sr. off stage.
If Berg Jr. turns out to have been on an ill-conceived ANSWER-Al Queda liason mission, and Kerry is seen in a single picture with him, the Al Queda-ANSWER tag will stick to KERRY like crazy-glued velcro.
Thanks! Your comment sent chills up my back! You are right about OK!
You should have seen that one creepy guy running around Norman with the beard that was so long he put it up and around both ears. Clothes always dirty -- I cheered when I found out he was arrested as Moussoui's roommate! Better off without that lowlife running around town.
Couldn't believe it after 9-11 when the Feds were all over Norman looking for anyone that knew Moussoui and then this morning I pick up the paper and there is Berg on the front page as having been in Norman at the same time.
Really strange for such a small state too! I am not a native though!
I would love to listen in on that conversations too.
I bet Kerry and Berg Sr. are pretty closely connected
somehow.
Nope. Precisely why I have not speculated such. All I know is dad was a leftist. My earlier post included only clear facts, and no attempt at relevance was made or insinuated.
And .. I noticed that somebody wrote that Nick had a relative in Mosul ..?? What is that all about ..?? I had not heard that today.
I don't think so. Also, I appreciate your earlier post regarding working on towers and in Iraq. This kid was operating in a war zone without a translator or driver (according to a Newsday reporter). By Berg's own admission he couldn't speak the language. Now I know several people who have found it thrilling to go to unsafe parts of the world, but they don't go stupid. (Meaning, they take up with a local or like-minded individuals, neither of which it looks like Berg did.)
Good for you, PhiKapMom. I nearly hit abuse on that one myself.
Some strange people come out at night...
another thread going>>
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1135099/posts
To: KQQL
The evidence seems overwhelming that Berg was an agent of Al Queda. Moussaoui was found with his e-mail, supposedly given to him by accident. With the billions of e-mail addresses in the world, how much of a coincidence would it be that a guy "accidentally" encountered Al Queda twice on such a personal level, once at school with his e-mail and once while "wandering around" Iraq? Apparently the FBI found no other evidence to link him to Al Queda besides the e-mail, but do we have that much confidence in the FBI now, given the "Gorelick"-era constraints on what information they can gather. Obviously we know our intelligence agencies are either incompetent or barred from doing what they need to do or both after all that's happened.
Today his father says he was the best friend the people who killed him ever had. Either his father is in with Al Queda too, or more likely listened to his son rail against the US saying we deserved what Al Queda gave us time and time again. At the very least this tells us Berg and perhaps his family was an Al Queda sympathizer...who also apparently gave his e-mail address to an Al Queda member and spent time with them in Iraq.
Then there is the question of why he was wandering around Iraq "looking for work," when no foreigners seem to be there except for journalists, military, and paid contractors. John Gibson said this was clearly a bogus story today, while he and a caller talked about whether he might have been an American spy. The propaganda lies about him being held by the U.S. military and the military's claim that he refused transportation home only raise more questions about why he was in Iraq.
Also, look at the timing of this video. Supposedly Berg "disappeared" in late March. Yet we never heard anything from this group about them holding him as a hostage, threatening to kill him, or anything else, despite seeing many more of these hostages displayed before cameras last month, from mostly other countries. Not to mention most of the hostages seemed to be taken by ad hoc local Iraqi groups who couldn't even afford decent locks on their doors, not by top level Al Queda. Al Queda claimed they offered to exchange him for our prisoners, but the U.S. military denies it. That alone seems like an all too convenient focus on Arab prisoners just days after the Abu Ghraib prisoner scandal erupted. It seems like Al Queda wanted a propaganda response to the Abu Ghraib pictures in a hurry. In their line of thinking they probably felt they needed to show their strength after being humiliated so publicly by the release of the photos (the release of which was without a doubt FAR MORE humiliating than the activities that happened in the photos, thank you, CBS, for your deep concern for the Iraqis). Berg was an American who they could get their hands on quickly because he was already with them. Maybe they didn't even tell him they were going to kill him...just asked him to be tied up for a staged propaganda video. At any rate, Al Queda, especially this Zarqawi group seems to care nothing about killing innocent muslim Iraqis in car bombings, so why would they care about killing an American Jew just because he happened to sympathize with them?
How he could have been an Al Queda member while not exactly fitting the profile as a Jew needs to be addressed though. Obviously there is extreme sympathy among American leftists for Al Queda, and judging by his family's comments they fit that profile. Certainly American Jews are frequently rabid left-wingers. If Al Queda could look past the fact that he was Jewish, he could have had value to them. At the same time, there may have been less than universal agreement within Al Queda that they could trust him. We have heard for some time they have been trying to recruit more members who don't "fit the profile" of middle eastern men, although Berg's connections pre-date 9-11. Would he have been too useful as an agent to expend this way? Perhaps, but they probably had long since figured out he was more of an idiot then he was useful. We saw all the brilliance Jihad Johnny had to offer...leftist American morons are obviously going to be too stupid to be that indispensable to a foreign terrorist group. As a prop in a propaganda video, Al Queda probably got the best use out of him they could.
This reminds me of the story about how Saddam Hussein's staff lied to him that they produced WMD and then Saddam, thinking he had them, lied to the world about not having them. When it comes to islamics, you're always dealing with lies on top of lies upon lies inside other lies...
Now I wonder if the right-wing side of the media is going to pursue this story, or are they all too happy that the focus is again on the evil of Al Queda and off the Abu Ghraib scandal? Well, if they do pursue this, they could certainly keep some competition with the Ghraib scandal for American attention out there a little bit longer. Frankly, I think it's more important to pursue the strongest and clearest case yet of American leftists collaborating with our latest brutal foreign enemy than it is to try to bolster the war effort on Al Queda by showcasing their brutality against an "innocent" American. We can't let the way this story has been portrayed by both Al Queda and the press so far distract from the foul stench of liberal treason we are almost certainly witnessing here...
Anyone else in Pennsylvania think we can put together a petition to have the Berg family investigated for treason or at least expelled from the state, if possible?
169 posted on 05/13/2004 6:34:38 PM PDT by JediJones (An O'Reillyan Conservative)
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It's him. Go to foxnews.com's main page. Click on his pick. This is a closer and better photo of him. Imagine him with a beard and hair on his head.
Also, it's his voice(I'm sure parents know their kid's voice as do his friends)
That gave me the creeps I must admit!
I was trying to keep myself from wondering too much about Nick Berg's background and motivations, but this is just too "weird".
I think actually, they picked OK for many reasons, not the least of them is that there was little islamic presence there, so they could act on their own. Just a guess, but I think that may have something to do with it.
Yeah and no one at all is smearing Nick Berg.
Yep, none at all.
Me too! Big time.
Yes, you're right. You have to admit that there are many aspects to this that are strange. Whatever the story, we're all deeply shocked at this young man's execution. It's just all the weird circumstances surrounding him. It's human nature to ask why when we see something like this happen.
I'm sorry to repeat myself, but in the context of how this kid was killed, how is possible for his father to use the phrase best friend? I can't fathom it under any circumstances whatsoever.
If he was referring to Iraqis as those to whom he would have been a best friend, the butchery was not claimed by the 'Iraqis', it was claimed by an arm of Al Qaeda, wasn't it? So when he says they killed their best friend, what's he referring to? I mean maybe I have the thing wrong, and I'd like to know if I do. Nonetheless very, very strange.
I also want to say that I'm not trying to minimize this kid's horrific death, at all, and I don't think anyone else who is speculating is either. It's really unrealistic to expect people to dismiss these coincidences so easily. I don't think this thread is all that tin foiley really.
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