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To: Dolphy

another thread going>>

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1135099/posts

To: KQQL
The evidence seems overwhelming that Berg was an agent of Al Queda. Moussaoui was found with his e-mail, supposedly given to him by accident. With the billions of e-mail addresses in the world, how much of a coincidence would it be that a guy "accidentally" encountered Al Queda twice on such a personal level, once at school with his e-mail and once while "wandering around" Iraq? Apparently the FBI found no other evidence to link him to Al Queda besides the e-mail, but do we have that much confidence in the FBI now, given the "Gorelick"-era constraints on what information they can gather. Obviously we know our intelligence agencies are either incompetent or barred from doing what they need to do or both after all that's happened.

Today his father says he was the best friend the people who killed him ever had. Either his father is in with Al Queda too, or more likely listened to his son rail against the US saying we deserved what Al Queda gave us time and time again. At the very least this tells us Berg and perhaps his family was an Al Queda sympathizer...who also apparently gave his e-mail address to an Al Queda member and spent time with them in Iraq.

Then there is the question of why he was wandering around Iraq "looking for work," when no foreigners seem to be there except for journalists, military, and paid contractors. John Gibson said this was clearly a bogus story today, while he and a caller talked about whether he might have been an American spy. The propaganda lies about him being held by the U.S. military and the military's claim that he refused transportation home only raise more questions about why he was in Iraq.

Also, look at the timing of this video. Supposedly Berg "disappeared" in late March. Yet we never heard anything from this group about them holding him as a hostage, threatening to kill him, or anything else, despite seeing many more of these hostages displayed before cameras last month, from mostly other countries. Not to mention most of the hostages seemed to be taken by ad hoc local Iraqi groups who couldn't even afford decent locks on their doors, not by top level Al Queda. Al Queda claimed they offered to exchange him for our prisoners, but the U.S. military denies it. That alone seems like an all too convenient focus on Arab prisoners just days after the Abu Ghraib prisoner scandal erupted. It seems like Al Queda wanted a propaganda response to the Abu Ghraib pictures in a hurry. In their line of thinking they probably felt they needed to show their strength after being humiliated so publicly by the release of the photos (the release of which was without a doubt FAR MORE humiliating than the activities that happened in the photos, thank you, CBS, for your deep concern for the Iraqis). Berg was an American who they could get their hands on quickly because he was already with them. Maybe they didn't even tell him they were going to kill him...just asked him to be tied up for a staged propaganda video. At any rate, Al Queda, especially this Zarqawi group seems to care nothing about killing innocent muslim Iraqis in car bombings, so why would they care about killing an American Jew just because he happened to sympathize with them?

How he could have been an Al Queda member while not exactly fitting the profile as a Jew needs to be addressed though. Obviously there is extreme sympathy among American leftists for Al Queda, and judging by his family's comments they fit that profile. Certainly American Jews are frequently rabid left-wingers. If Al Queda could look past the fact that he was Jewish, he could have had value to them. At the same time, there may have been less than universal agreement within Al Queda that they could trust him. We have heard for some time they have been trying to recruit more members who don't "fit the profile" of middle eastern men, although Berg's connections pre-date 9-11. Would he have been too useful as an agent to expend this way? Perhaps, but they probably had long since figured out he was more of an idiot then he was useful. We saw all the brilliance Jihad Johnny had to offer...leftist American morons are obviously going to be too stupid to be that indispensable to a foreign terrorist group. As a prop in a propaganda video, Al Queda probably got the best use out of him they could.

This reminds me of the story about how Saddam Hussein's staff lied to him that they produced WMD and then Saddam, thinking he had them, lied to the world about not having them. When it comes to islamics, you're always dealing with lies on top of lies upon lies inside other lies...

Now I wonder if the right-wing side of the media is going to pursue this story, or are they all too happy that the focus is again on the evil of Al Queda and off the Abu Ghraib scandal? Well, if they do pursue this, they could certainly keep some competition with the Ghraib scandal for American attention out there a little bit longer. Frankly, I think it's more important to pursue the strongest and clearest case yet of American leftists collaborating with our latest brutal foreign enemy than it is to try to bolster the war effort on Al Queda by showcasing their brutality against an "innocent" American. We can't let the way this story has been portrayed by both Al Queda and the press so far distract from the foul stench of liberal treason we are almost certainly witnessing here...

Anyone else in Pennsylvania think we can put together a petition to have the Berg family investigated for treason or at least expelled from the state, if possible?



169 posted on 05/13/2004 6:34:38 PM PDT by JediJones (An O'Reillyan Conservative)
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750 posted on 05/13/2004 6:39:16 PM PDT by petercooper (Islam is not a religion of peace. It's a sadistic death cult.)
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To: petercooper

Yeah and no one at all is smearing Nick Berg.

Yep, none at all.


757 posted on 05/13/2004 6:40:57 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: petercooper
Is it possible the Al-Gharib and Berg events were supposed to happen in conjunction?
The said CBS held back reporting on Al-Gharib by 8 days and Berg was "kidnapped" more than a month ago.
771 posted on 05/13/2004 6:47:51 PM PDT by olde north church (We remained civilized - Epitaph, United States of America)
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