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Nick Berg had "coincidental" link to Moussoui
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Posted on 05/13/2004 2:05:20 PM PDT by kcvl

Wow!


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KEYWORDS: answer; berg; cia; fbi; libdad; moussaoui; moussoui; nickberg; questions; terroristlinks
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To: cgk

Thanks! Hmmm, another email account.


1,201 posted on 05/14/2004 9:45:23 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: P-Marlowe

I was surprised to see that pay scale, a friend of mine back in the late 70s was making $500/week painting towers for a painting contractor.


1,202 posted on 05/14/2004 9:46:23 AM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: twigs

Just finished Googling. Whew! Too much info this early. Jayna probably looked into it and determined he was a red herring of sorts. That's what I would surmise. He went to Elohim (as some say McVeigh did), he was trying to get a "white cell" together in college (which got him thrown out), all around the same time as OKBOMB... From what I've read, Jayna showed pics of who she thinks JD#2 is to witnesses and they confirmed it was the same person.


1,203 posted on 05/14/2004 9:49:42 AM PDT by cgk (Leftist spin: Baghdad Fell? Clinton's Army! Saddam Nabbed? Clinton's Army! Naked Iraqis? Bush's Army)
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To: varina davis

Damn. Why would the DOD bar the family from seeing his body come home? I'm sure they have a good reason, but it just seems pretty cold.


1,204 posted on 05/14/2004 9:50:30 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Isn't that strange? I didn't think anything about that when I first read the article - the day his execution hit the news. Then this info about an email account linked to Moussaoui (sp.).


1,205 posted on 05/14/2004 9:50:53 AM PDT by cgk (Leftist spin: Baghdad Fell? Clinton's Army! Saddam Nabbed? Clinton's Army! Naked Iraqis? Bush's Army)
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To: New Perspective

Thanks for adding this "New Perspective" on this mess!

"Nick cooperates in filming the PR stunt, but at the last moments, Zarqawi and company perform the real act.
This would tend to be inline with their tactics. Remember that not all of the hijackers knew they were going to die. Remember Osama laughing at the fact that his followers were not aware they were going on a suicide mission when they hijacked the planes."

"These animals will kill their own, without blinking an eye."


1,206 posted on 05/14/2004 9:53:01 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (THEY (AQ?) DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. HE WAS A FRIEND, (of AQ?)!)
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To: razorback-bert; AmericanMade1776; Heff; P-Marlowe; SeenTheLight; PhiKapMom; Travis McGee; ...
Good Find Razorback. I missed it last night.

I'm trying hard to establish this guys credentials and it is beginning to appear that he did, in fact, have legitimate tower credentials. His business did appear to be a FBN company but he appears to be a legitimate Tower climber and radio technician. I am posting the entire letter from Mark Humphrey to put it in perspective:

BEGIN: Message: 4
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 12:35:16 -0400
From: "Mark Humphrey"
Subject: [BC] [BC]Remembering Nick (was Why was Nick in Iraq?)

The tragic news about Nick Berg's murder hit very close to home, as I had known him for about two years and we hired him for several recent projects -- in fact, he installed an auxiliary antenna for WPLY in February, just before heading back to Iraq. Perhaps I can shed some light on this situation.

First, let me say that Nick impressed me as a very bright, resourceful and dedicated individual who cared a great deal about improving our quality of life by applying his skills and knowledge. Nick not only possessed the necessary physical ability and stamina to do the job, but had also studied engineering at Drexel, Penn, and Cornell, so I felt very comfortable letting him handle our work. I knew that he wanted to grow his own business, and I felt obligated to give him that opportunity.

He had all sorts of ideas to bring technology to less-developed parts of the world, including a concrete tower which could be fabricated in remote parts of the world using locally- available materials, thus avoiding the problems of shipping steel in the absence of a good transportation network.

In fact, at last year's PAB Engineering Conference in Hershey, he and his father (who served as business manager of the company) displayed a prototype modular structure called "Bovl Blocks", made of interlocking concrete blocks that could be cast on site, then stacked to the desired height. He thought this product would be particularly useful in the African interior, where cellular networks are just beginning to be built out.

Why did he go to Iraq?

He was aware that some towers were damaged last year during bombing missions, and many more had been looted... copper lines removed, diagonal members taken out, etc. Few obstruction lighting systems were functional -- he mentioned an 800 foot tower two miles from an airport (used by our military) that was totally dark. So he first went over in December to see if he could help to assist in the reconstruction, restore Iraq's broadcast services, and repair the serious structural damage that endangered the lives of their citizens.

I received the following email message from Nick in early January:

>About Iraq-

>I am taking photos - where allowed. It's actually pretty sad - I just
>got off one of two 320 meter monster towers in Abu Gharib (also home
>to the main political prison) which use to support most of Baghdad
>area's VHF and UHF.
>Both have been badly looted, including 4000 feet or more of flexible 6-
>1/8" heliax, two full 12X4 panel TV antennas, and even some structural
>members. I was also in the North as I mentioned, but here there
>wasn't as much damage. I'll definitely share some of these pix with
>you and others next time I'm in the area - I'd love to put together a
>little presentation for SBE or PAB in about six monthes after I've
>been on every site and fixed some of them.
He returned to Philadelphia in late January to catch up on some domestic business -- then in early February, tackled an antenna replacement job at our aux site, which he had quoted last summer.

This proved to be more complicated than either of us had first assumed (a three-bay DA with two vertical and four horizontal parasites per bay) but he honored his original quote. The work took place in sub- zero windchills... my feet were getting plenty cold just standing out in the cornfield as we aligned the azimuth, it must have been brutal up on the tower, but he took it in stride. (I'm sending Barry some pictures of Nick on this job to post on the "Oldradio" site.)

After Nick completed assembly and we purged the system, I ran the pressure up to 5 PSI and closed the valve on the nitrogen tank. I came out at 4:30 AM the next morning to run some power into the new antenna, and as the transmitter ramped up to full output, I saw *zero* reflected. (I tapped the meter to make sure it wasn't stuck!)

We had a perfect installation, no split or missing bullets, etc. And I haven't seen *any* pressure loss since then (actually, the gage reads between 7 and 8 now, due to the warmer weather.)

I knew that Nick was planning to return to Irag in March, but hadn't heard any word from him over the past two months, which had me concerned. Then I received the message from his parents (which Stu Engelke posted here last week) and my heart sunk. I was at lunch yesterday when the news broke about his brutal murder, and I was devastated.

If you've been following all sides of this story, you may have read that his parents did not receive much cooperation from OUR Federal Government when trying to learn his whereabouts, which is very disturbing. He had reportedly booked a March 30 flight back to New York, but missed it because he had been detained by our military. Today's "spin" on the story is that they told him to get out, but I'm not buying that.

Let's keep his family in our thoughts and prayers. Our industry (and humanity) has lost a very fine person.

Mark

1,207 posted on 05/14/2004 9:53:10 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Free the GRPL3)
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To: cgk

Well it's been said that Nick's uncle's brother was acting pretty nervous. Maybe it was the same deal about sharing an email addy and the password for the account?


1,208 posted on 05/14/2004 9:55:01 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: P-Marlowe

I read this on Tower Pro Yahoo board...


1,210 posted on 05/14/2004 9:57:52 AM PDT by antaresequity (This is not the "War on Terror", Islam is the common denominator)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

I wouldn't be surprised at all. Thinking about it, I'd be nervous, too, if I lived in Mosul and some American Jew showed up at my house, claiming to be a relative. Who'd believe me, in that hellhole, that I had a Jewish relative?


1,211 posted on 05/14/2004 10:02:12 AM PDT by cgk (Leftist spin: Baghdad Fell? Clinton's Army! Saddam Nabbed? Clinton's Army! Naked Iraqis? Bush's Army)
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To: P-Marlowe
but had also studied engineering at Drexel, Penn, and Cornell

I miss the Penn reference the first time around.

When was he there?

No mention of OU.

1,212 posted on 05/14/2004 10:02:29 AM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: liz44040

A close look at that so called jumpsuit, pictures on this thread, make the suit look like a rayon or silk jumpsuit.


1,213 posted on 05/14/2004 10:02:35 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (THEY (AQ?) DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. HE WAS A FRIEND, (of AQ?)!)
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To: razorback-bert; AmericanMade1776; Heff; P-Marlowe; SeenTheLight; PhiKapMom; Travis McGee
I found a picture of Berg at the PAB Engineering conference. It looks like this guy is legitimate. Here he is showing off his BOVL Blocks

Apparently this guy was some kind of engineering genius.

1,214 posted on 05/14/2004 10:09:28 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Free the GRPL3)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

I have a bleary brain and eyes.

I have been on this thread for about 3+ hours with some side diversions dealing with this mess via freepmail and emails from friends and relatives who are lurkers on FR.


1,216 posted on 05/14/2004 10:11:25 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (THEY (AQ?) DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. HE WAS A FRIEND, (of AQ?)!)
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To: cgk

A red herring, eh? I suspect there are lots of them. I wonder if we even knew of Berg's connection with Moussousai before he was murdered. There's just sooo much. Actually, with all respect to a grieving Michael Berg, I find it encouraging that someone, whoever that turns out to be, held Berg, sensing that he could be a problem. I don't know that he was, but with his connections and behavior, I WANT us to be checking these people out, American or no!


1,217 posted on 05/14/2004 10:11:38 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Grampa Dave

Re: " I just got off one of two 320 meter monster towers in Abu Gharib (also home to the main political prison)" From the email above. This phrasing strikes me as not exactly being "pro war" or "pro Bush."


1,218 posted on 05/14/2004 10:12:58 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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To: razorback-bert; AmericanMade1776; Heff; P-Marlowe; SeenTheLight; PhiKapMom; Travis McGee
I found a picture of Berg at the PAB Engineering conference. It looks like this guy is legitimate. Here he is showing off his BOVL Blocks

Apparently this guy was some kind of engineering genius.

1,219 posted on 05/14/2004 10:13:12 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Free the GRPL3)
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To: P-Marlowe

Sorry about the double post.


1,220 posted on 05/14/2004 10:14:14 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Free the GRPL3)
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