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Colorful fall--Ancient Romans traded their freedom for a government ....
World Magazine ^ | April 24, 2004 | Gene Edward Veith

Posted on 05/13/2004 8:55:11 AM PDT by Stat-boy

Ancient Romans traded their freedom for a government that would entertain and take care of them. Sound familiar?

CULTURAL CRITICS HAVE LONG LOOKED FOR lessons in the fall of the Roman Empire. But far more significant to the United States is the fall of the Roman Republic. Rome became ruled by an all-commanding emperor with pretensions of divinity because the Romans lost their constitutional, freedom-loving republic. A recent book by Tom Holland, Rubicon: The Last Years of the Roman Republic, is a lively, popularly written history of how this happened.

When the ancient Romans overthrew their king, they formulated a system of representative government complete with free elections, individual rights, checks and balances, and guarantees of liberty. The Romans had a senate to pass laws. They had consuls as an executive branch-two of them, to ensure that no consul could gain too much power.

To further limit their power, they had strict term limits: No consul could serve more than one year. To protect the rights of ordinary citizens, they had the office of tribune, whose task was to be the advocate of the people. (This is why many American newspapers call themselves "tribunes.") The tribune could not only protect a citizen when the government grew too intrusive, he could actually veto legislation.

Rome's republic lasted for some 500 years. It produced one of the most stable, successful, and accomplished societies the world has ever seen. So what happened?

In some ways, Rome was a victim of its own success. After the invasion by Hannibal and his elephants, Rome not only destroyed Carthage but launched a policy of preemption. The Roman legions marched out to defeat any neighbors that might someday prove a threat. Before long, the plunder and taxes from conquered territories brought the city vast wealth. Ambitious young Romans now had a greater sphere of action. And military success was the surest way to popular acclaim and thus political office.

There were constitutional instabilities too. One-year term limits meant constant campaigning and nonstop political fighting. Factions grew more and more divisive. Politicians would curry favor with the masses by promising free food and by sponsoring lavish entertainments (the notorious "bread and circuses"). The different political factions would form armed gangs that fought each other in the streets. Later, these factions would have armies.

Eventually, the system produced Julius Caesar, a young playboy who was also a military genius with unparalleled leadership qualities. After serving as consul, he was elected proconsul-a position given to those who exercised authority outside of Rome-whereupon he conquered Gaul and much of Western Europe.

As Caesar's term came to an end, he was summoned back to Rome to face charges from his rivals. Would the conqueror of Gaul, at the head of crack, loyal legions, allow himself to lose everything at a trial? Caesar came back, but, deciding to break one of Rome's most hallowed laws that forbade bringing troops across the river into the precincts of Rome, he crossed the Rubicon. His enemies fled, rallying behind another Roman strongman, Pompey the Great (the conqueror of Judea), resulting in civil war.

When it was over, Caesar was supreme. Although he is a hero according to the monarchist Shakespeare, his assassination in the senate was a noble effort to save the republic. But into the power vacuum left by his death rushed a triumvirate of other strongmen, leading to more civil war, until Caesar's adopted son Octavius acquired all power as Caesar Augustus.

Mr. Holland's book is full of memorable characters. Cicero, known today as a great literary stylist and rhetorician, was in the thick of the political battles, and he gave his life for the republic, murdered in a purge of Octavius's enemies. Even more impressive was Cato, the uncompromising moralist and defender of the republican virtues, who died by his own hand rather than surrender to Caesar. (He is the namesake for the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank in Washington.)

Ultimately, what did in the republic was a moral failure. The Roman religion had little, if any, moral content. "Honor" could inspire great deeds, but it also could justify the untrammeled pursuit of selfish ambition. Politicians made themselves above the law. Vicious politics destroyed national unity. The people themselves traded their freedom for charismatic leadership, peace, prosperity, and a government strong enough to take care of them and keep them entertained. They lacked the worldview to sustain a republic.

The American Founders carefully studied the lessons of the Roman Republic, even as they imitated its ideals, as evident in the architecture of the nation's capital. Christianity offered a stronger foundation for self-government than Roman paganism. But as we look at our own increasingly divisive politics and our current worldview shifts, can our republic survive another 300 years to last as long as Rome's?


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I found this article very interesting. It seems to me that a significant number of American voters are swayed by celebrity worship. I wonder if we will also elect a Caesar one day?
1 posted on 05/13/2004 8:55:13 AM PDT by Stat-boy
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To: Stat-boy
If we ever do, you can just call me "Brutus".....
2 posted on 05/13/2004 8:57:58 AM PDT by tracer
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To: Stat-boy
I strikes me as a simplification. Julius Caesar wasn't the first emperor, Octavius was.

The strength of the Roman constitution was that, as Polybius says, it has a "mixed" government, much like our own constitutional principle of a balance of powers among the three branches. With the Romans it was Consuls, Senate, and the Tribunes and people. That system prevented any one person from becoming a tyrant, but it also led to constant class warfare, which goes right back to the beginning of the Republic. Read Livy.

Balance of powers is better than concentrated power, but it's not infallible. In Rome it led to a hundred years of vicious civil war in the last century BC. So when Augustus assumed imperial powers, people were tired of fighting among themselves and acceded to his supremacy.

The biggest danger in America right now is judicial tyranny. The courts have seized the supreme power, and that must be corrected or there will be dangerous reactions. It's in the nature of a mixed government that different factions will try to prevail over the others, and I suppose it's inevitable that it will happen sooner or later, preferably later.
3 posted on 05/13/2004 9:05:46 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Stat-boy
When the ancient Romans overthrew their king, they formulated a system of representative government complete with free elections, individual rights, checks and balances, and guarantees of liberty.

One of the greatest rights for Roman free men was the right to bear arms. This was taken away when the dictators came...

Strength and Honor!

4 posted on 05/13/2004 9:07:38 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Stat-boy
It is a little more complicated, of course, than this writer is letting on. The man who fatally disrupted the Roman republic was the dictator Sulla, who was of the generation before Julius Caesar. Sulla seized control of Rome, establishing himself as dictator, in order to defeat his rival Marius and to prevent Marius' faction from introducing reforms to dilute the aristocracy's hold over the Republic.

A few decades later, Caesar was the champion of the remnants of Marius' faction, and took up the cause of trying to dilute the power of the aristocracy, extending it to the people. This led to the civil war against Pompey, heir to Sulla's faction. Brutus was the champion of the old families, and murdered Caesar to put a stop to his political program.

In the end, Augustus Caesar won control of the Roman world, and instituted the Principate (what we call the Empire) as a Reconstruction-like measure to stop the chaos. His energy was directed into political stability and resurrecting the Republican institutions (religion, cultural traditions, etc.) which decades of civil war had gutted. Unfortunately, his program to restore the Republic was uncompleted by the time of his death, and Roman slipped inexorably into monarchy.
5 posted on 05/13/2004 9:09:16 AM PDT by SedVictaCatoni (And, for the record, Julius Caesar was NOT AN EMPEROR.)
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To: Cicero
If only your namesake had joined the Second Triumvirate, the Republic might well have been restored.
6 posted on 05/13/2004 9:11:12 AM PDT by SedVictaCatoni (Julius Caesar was NOT AN EMPEROR.)
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To: Stat-boy
So far our would be ceasars who promise us unlimited bread and circuses abjure the means for providing unending welfare. In a welfare/breadandcircuses state the local economy cannot support the superstructure. Wealth must continue toflow in from outside. A nonproductive economy will not draw investment from outside and continued conquest and plunder is required to maintain the welfare state. The left has to figure out how to wed itself to the military so as to embark on internaational conquest and plunder.
7 posted on 05/13/2004 9:27:59 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Ong lam hanh huong di La Vang)
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To: Stat-boy
But as we look at our own increasingly divisive politics and our current worldview shifts, can our republic survive another 300 years to last as long as Rome's?

The author, Veith, should reacquaint himself with the bitter election of 1800 between Jefferson and Adams. Preemption? President Jefferson "preempted" the Barbery Pirate's with the US Navy and Marine Corp during his term. We are still a republic (of sorts).

I detect some "George Bush is Caeser" agenda in Veith's commentary.

8 posted on 05/13/2004 9:28:06 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: Stat-boy
The Republic is already over.

It's yet to be determined who will be the first king.
9 posted on 05/13/2004 9:35:39 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (See ya in the camps.)
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To: Stat-boy
Politicians made themselves above the law.

A few years ago the leader of the Democrat Party decided that saving himself a little personal embarrassment was a higher priority than showing respect for the Truth the Rule of Law and Our Judicial System. So while under oath he simply lied. Then his minions went around and in essence claimed that all politicians would do the same and look out for themselves first. Most all Democrats either agreed with Clinton or out of Party loyalty they found it acceptable that the President of the United States had placed his own desires ahead of concern for what is best for Our Country.

10 posted on 05/13/2004 9:43:53 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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No, I don't he means to point a finger at Bush. Veith is a very sensible guy. What I think he is getting at is that wealth, luxury, and perhaps empire become too tempting a prize, and also that they corrupt morality. The Romans themselves often said as much--that they were better when they were simple, sturdy farmers. Wealth corrupts and softens.
11 posted on 05/13/2004 9:47:13 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Stat-boy
We've already elected "Caligula", twice!
12 posted on 05/13/2004 9:56:39 AM PDT by vanmorrison
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To: Cicero
What I think he is getting at is that wealth, luxury, and perhaps empire become too tempting a prize, and also that they corrupt morality.

Your point is well taken. Wealth does have a corrupting influence upon humans, not all humans, but most. However, I don't recall essays decrying the evils of wealth, or the quest for "empire" during the Clinton years, Bosnia and the Dot.Com boom. Our good fortune was termed the genius of Clinton and referred to as "prosperity". This inconsistency tends to be ignored, as does the dead of 9/11.

13 posted on 05/13/2004 10:01:26 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: Stat-boy; *Catholic_list; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp IV; ...
The Roman religion had little, if any, moral content. "Honor" could inspire great deeds, but it also could justify the untrammeled pursuit of selfish ambition. Politicians made themselves above the law. Vicious politics destroyed national unity. The people themselves traded their freedom for charismatic leadership, peace, prosperity, and a government strong enough to take care of them and keep them entertained.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana

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14 posted on 05/13/2004 10:13:31 AM PDT by NYer (Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light!)
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To: Stat-boy
Good post, read this current article!

PUBLIC PAYROLL SOARS (wealth transfer gone from citizens to people in Govt)

LA Daily News ^ | 3./22/04 | Troy Anderson

Salaries move far ahead of inflation

From the city of Los Angeles to California state government, the cost of salaries and benefits for public employees has soared far faster than inflation in the last five years -- three times as fast in the case of the Los Angeles Unified School District, a Daily News analysis has found.

The study showed that spending for public employees' salaries and benefits at the state and local levels increased overall at more than twice the rate of inflation and grew faster than the per capita income of average Californians. The cost of pensions was excluded from the analysis because of the wide disparity between different levels of government.

The spending binge started at a time that tax revenues were soaring, at the peak of the 1990s dot-com boom. Now that the boom has gone bust and the economy remains weak, state and local officials are making deep cuts in public services and looking for ways to raise fees and taxes. The review covered the fiscal years from 1997-98 to 2002-03.

"At all levels of government, the rate of compensation has gone up much more rapidly than it has in the private sector and, most importantly, faster than the personal income of the people who pay for this," said Steven B. Frates, a senior fellow at the Rose Institute of State and Local Government at Claremont McKenna College.

"There has been a wealth transfer. It has gone from the citizens to the people in government".

"You often hear people in government cry that there are going to be cuts and we're hurting the poor and the little children. The fact of the matter is the citizens of the state, county and city are making life better, not necessarily for schoolchildren or people in need, but for government employees."

The review covered the state of California; the city of Los Angeles; Los Angeles County and three neighboring counties; the LAUSD; and the Metropolitan Transportation Authority. Overall salary and benefit expenditures increased between 18 percent at the MTA and 53 percent for San Bernardino County during the five-year period.

The portion for employee benefits alone jumped by 35 to 186 percent.

In comparison, the inflation rate in California rose 17 percent, and per capita income in the state increased 24 percent.

Pension costs varied widely and dropped at some public agencies like Los Angeles city government, which has its own pension fund that profited from the booming stock market, and skyrocketed by as much as 79 percent at other agencies. Many local governments now face huge pension bills largely because of expansion in pension benefits.

Workers' compensation costs rose between 29 and 141 percent, and overtime costs increased by 13 to 60 percent. In the last five

years, per capita income in California increased 24 percent, from $26,521 to $32,898. Nationally, employees in the private sector earn an average of $34,299 a year, plus $13,374 in benefits.

That compares to the $49,005 annual salaries local and state government employees enjoy, plus $21,528 in benefits, according to U.S. Department of Labor statistics.

The highest average salary and benefits package is in Los Angeles County, where compensation jumped from $59,126 to $79,057, although officials point out that many employees went without raises for several years in the mid-1990s.

Local and state government officials said they approved compensation increases for their employees to remain competitive with other government agencies and the private sector, and that some cost increases, such as health care and workers' compensation, were outside of their control. Some union leader

s questioned the figures.

"We represent over 50,000 county employees whose salaries increased 24 percent over 10 years, an average increase of 2.4 percent a year," said Bart Diener, assistant general manager of Service Employees International Union, Local 660, which represents Los Angeles County workers. "We believe this is appropriate and in line with the growth in the economy."

But H.D. Palmer, spokesman for the state Department of Finance under Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, said the 41 percent rise in state salary and benefits costs under former Gov. Gray Davis clearly exceeds similar increases in the private sector.

"Looking at that growth in the rearview mirror, it's clear that kind of growth is unsustainable over the long haul," Palmer said. "It's one of the reasons the governor has said he'd like to reopen a number of contracts with state employee unions."

With the state facing a massive shortfall even after voters approved a $15 billion bond issue mainly to refinance existing debt, state and local government agencies now face making steep cuts. Much of the problem was caused by a five-year state spending spree that raised expenditures 43 percent while revenue rose only 25 percent.

Los Angeles County faces making nearly $500 million in cuts, while the city of Los Angeles faces $250 million and the LAUSD $600 million.

County Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich said the biggest portion of the salary increases comes from often unnoticed 2.75 percent and 5.5 percent annual "step" increases, or merit raises, which local and state government workers get during their first five to 11 years of employment.

"And many times employees who reach the fifth step after five years will be reclassified for another five years," Antonovich said. "This is above any cost-of-living adjustments negotiated in labor contracts. That's why those numbers go up so much each year and services are cut.

"So what they need to have is a two-tiered system. Labor laws need to be modified. You could develop a new classification that would allow step increases based upon merit and performance with a smaller increase. So what you would have is something similar to the private sector where promotions are based on merit and performance, not just showing up and having your eyes open."

Jon Coupal, president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, said the figures confirm that the only "growth industry" in California is government. "It's clear that the size of government and the slice it takes from the private sector continues to expand," Coupal said. "And while private sector businesses have suffered, it appears that local and state government believe they are beyond economic pressures."

Coupal said local and state officials should renegotiate contracts with employees unions, consider salary and benefit cuts, work furloughs and layoffs to reduce spending.

But Robert Stern, president of the Center for Governmental Studies, said government employee unions are powerful in California and he's not aware of any agencies cutting salaries and benefits since the Great Depression.

"These are pretty stout increases in both salaries and benefits," said Jack Kyser, chief economist at the Los Angeles County Economic Development Corp. "But the attitude in Sacramento was, 'Look at all this money coming in,' and they spent us into a massive budget deficit."

And, with the state plagued by a structural deficit of up to $10 billion a year, Kyser added: "We are either going to have to increase taxes or make painful cuts in spending. We are not out of the woods yet."

Frates of the Rose Institute said elected leaders bear the blame.

"They gave the farm away," Frates said. "California politicians need to be candid and open about what they are actually spending taxpayer money on.

"They frequently use the shorthand of, 'It's for public safety, education and public health,' when in fact it's for lavish salary and benefit increases for public employees at the expense of the general citizens of California. There are many public safety employees who now make more in retirement than they did when they were working and they get to retire at age 50."

Schwarzenegger is trying to renegotiate contracts. Los Angeles city officials have talked about renegotiations as well and County Chief Administrative Officer David Janssen has proposed a 1 percent salary cut for county employees and furloughs to save about $20 million.

"The question is do we make these necessary adjustments, or do we fire people?" Antonovich asked. "I'd rather make reductions and keep people employed. I believe you will find from workers a willingness to move forward and take reductions to retain their jobs and continue providing services to the public.

"The union leaders have traditionally opposed these reductions and would rather lay off people than have any reductions in compensation. To me, that is cruel and unnecessary. They don't want to jeopardize the benefits they have already gotten." l=8s=8 Troy Anderson, (213) 974-8985 troy.anderson@dailynews.com AT A GLANCE Here are highlights of the changes over the last five years based on figures from state and local governments, comparing fiscal year 1997-98 to fiscal year 2002-03. State:

Spending for salaries and benefits, excluding pensions, was up 41 percent, from $13.3 billion to $18.7 billion.

The number of full-time employees increased 10.5 percent, from 192,377 to 212,563.

The salary for correctional officers increased 25.4 percent, from $65,450 to $82,066 a year. City of Los Angeles (Not counting the departments of water and power, airports and harbor):

Spending for salaries and benefits, excluding pensions, rose 26 percent, from $1.8 billion to $2.2 billion. The average salary of civilian workers rose 23 percent, from $45,534 to $55,919, while the average for police officers grew 28 percent, from $60,397 to $77,537.

Overtime costs increased by 61 percent, and workers' compensation costs went up 81 percent. Los Angeles schools:

In the Los Angeles Unified School District, expenditures for salaries and benefits rose 51 percent, from $3.6 billion to $5.4 billion.

The average salary and benefits package of an LAUSD employee grew by 27 percent, from $51,424 to $65,526.

The number of full-time employees expanded 18 percent, from 69,140 to 81,691. Los Angeles County:

Expenditures for salaries and benefits rose 39 percent, from $5.0 billion to $6.9 billion.

The average county employee's salary increased 31 percent, from $37,664 to $49,343.

Workers' compensation costs soared 96 percent, from $143.1 million to $281.0 million. Ventura County:

Salaries and benefits rose 22 percent, from $271.5 million to $330.9 million.

Overtime shot up 55 percent, from $1.9 million to $2.9 million.

Workers' compensation costs skyrocketed 141 percent, from $4.5 million to $10.7 million. MTA:

Salaries and benefits increased 18 percent, from $499 million to $589 million.

The number of full-time employees was up by 17.9 percent, from 7,576 to 8,930.

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At all levels of government, the rate of compensation has gone up much more rapidly than it has in the private sector and, most importantly, faster than the personal income of the people who pay for this

Remember when government workers and politicians were considered public, civil servants?

Now it's the job of choice due to the big money and generous benefits, all on the backs of the little peon, taxpayers.

Government is only growing larger.

They just built a new city hall not too far from me. It's the fanciest, most opulent building in the entire area.

The parking lot is full of near new cars, they have beautiful landscaped, secured, and guarded parking.

There are lavish fountains, landscaping, safe, secure bullet proof windows for their employees, guards, closed circuit cameras to watch for angry tax payers, and to top it off, they built one of the most expensive restaurants in the entire area right across the street, so the government employees don't have to travel far to those yummy, tax payer paid lunches.

15 posted on 05/13/2004 10:19:07 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Cicero
Octavian..
16 posted on 05/13/2004 10:20:44 AM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
"It is a little more complicated"

Sums up my reaction to all simplistic analogies to ancient Roman history. Usually it's some "reason" for the fall of the Roman Empire. It is a shame more people don't study the whole of Roman history because it contains innumerable lessons about human nature and the way the World works. But it can never be reduced to "they drank out of lead cups."

17 posted on 05/13/2004 10:34:15 AM PDT by Williams
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To: dyed_in_the_wool; Travis McGee; Squantos; archy; MeekOneGOP; onyx; 4mycountry; tiamat
interesting read.
18 posted on 05/13/2004 10:41:23 AM PDT by King Prout (ChiComs salivate (Kerry: another Clinton) and leering say "I'll buy THAT for a dollar!")
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To: Joe Hadenuf
It's been said that one of the characteristics of the Third World is that government jobs pay more than private sector jobs.
19 posted on 05/13/2004 10:44:50 AM PDT by snarkpup
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To: snarkpup
You bet. The government forgot long ago who works for who.
20 posted on 05/13/2004 10:48:46 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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