LEASH GAL'S SEX PIX

New York Post ^ | 5/13/04 | VINCENT MORRIS and DEBORAH ORIN

[kattracks]

May 13, 2004 -- WASHINGTON - Shocking shots of sexcapades involving Pfc. Lynndie England were among the hundreds of X-rated photos and videos from the Abu Ghraib prison scandal shown to lawmakers in a top-secret Capitol conference room yesterday.

"She was having sex with numerous partners. It appeared to be consensual," said a lawmaker who saw the photos.

[AFPhys]

There is a reason the armed services never wanted gays and women near front line combat. There is enough of a problem fighting a war without these other distractions. - Tom

YES, YES, YES!!!

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[I'mPeach]

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) ..."It's hard to believe that this actually is taking place in a military facility."

It's hard to believe what was actually taking place in the oval office during the previous administration.

[NYCVirago]

Pfc. Lynndie England is single if I'm not mistaken. Having sex is not always against the UCMJ. It's against the UCMJ for someone who's single only if it's considered fraternization. That is having sex with someone who's in your Chain of Command which is likely to be the case here. But those guys and I assume it was all heterosexual in nature are just as guilty as she is and more so if higher in rank and married.

The troops in Iraq are under orders not to have sex with anyone, period. Not fellow soldiers, not CPA workers, not civiliations. So for all of Leash Girl's talk about just following orders, she couldn't even follow the order not to have sex over there.

[WOSG]

"Are we sure it's a good idea to have women serving in these places? "

Why isnt a single Senator asking that obvious but non-PCC question?

Women in coed military in remote postings + 'dont ask dont tell' = recipe for breakdown in unit discipline and morality.

[Chief_Joe]

What the army wants are heterosexual males in their late teens and early twenties who are in god physical shape.

There is a reason the armed services never wanted gays and women near front line combat. There is enough of a problem fighting a war without these other distractions. - Tom

This is the big picture I don't believe many take seriously enough. We don't have unlimited resources to accomplish military missions, so we have to field the best units possible for the military to complete its objectives. Integrating women into many of these units is inefficient at best, but they usually are a complete negative because they lower the combat readiness of the unit, and they breakdown the strong order and discipline that is needed for units to carry out their missions. I think it is best now to release at least a few of the pictures of Lynndie having sex with multiple partners to put an end to the nonsense that she was following orders or was working with MI to get intelligence from the Iraqi captives.  Real military people know these individuals who did this are sh@th#*ds, and the military does not want, need, or support sh@th#*ds like these in its ranks.

[WOSG]

Let us remind ourselves what these small number of jerks DID.

NOT ONLY did they engage in this depravity in the first place, it was only AFTER the US military decided to put its foot down on it, that these slimeballs GAVE THE PICS TO HACKWORTH AND CBS!

In other words, after harming the prisoners, ignoring their responsibilities, they further gave the whole US military a black eye by *publicizing it*. Creating further anger.

I am outraged by any and all who highlight and publicize those pics further. It doesnt help anyone except our enemies to show them.

[Havoc]

Now that is even more obscene lol

[TommyDale]

I think the "Don't ask, don't tell" defense is tossed out the window when you take pictures...

[WOSG]

"Pfc. Lynndie England is single if I'm not mistaken. Having sex is not always against the UCMJ. It's against the UCMJ for someone who's single only if it's considered fraternization. That is having sex with someone who's in your Chain of Command which is likely to be the case here."

The fact remains that this kinds of acts create a breakdown in discipline, whether they cross over UCMJ line or not.

Only a fool would think women in this combat unit has nothing to do with the breakdown in discipline here that created the scenario for abuse.

[AFPhys]

In large part, the court martial stats (at least 30 yrs ago) were as you say because officers who could committed court martial offenses often took a plea bargain that ended their career instead of going to the court.

[ArGee]

I'm probably a bit late, but here goes:

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who also characterized the photos as "disgusting," agreed, noting, "It's hard to believe that this actually is taking place in a military facility."

"I mean," continued the Senator, "I expect to see that kind of thing on the streets of San Francisco, but we don't expect the kind of people who apply for homosexual marriage licenses to enlist in the Army."

The shocking photos and videos, provided on computer disks by Pentagon officials, showed attack dogs snarling at cowering prisoners, Iraqi women forced to expose their breasts, and naked prisoners tied together on the floor, senators revealed as they emerged from the heavily guarded conference room.

Excuse me, but that is news from two weeks ago. Why is it part of this story?

"It was significantly worse than I had anticipated," said Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore). "Take the worst case and multiply it over several times."

Ok, Senator, the worst case is the beheading of an innocent civilian. You're saying you saw something seven times worse than the beheading of an innocent civilian? What? The beheading of seven innocent civilians? Cutting seven extremities from one innocent civilian? What are you talking about?

"I don't know how these people got into our Army," said Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-Colo.), who reported seeing "several pictures of Iraqi women who were disrobed or putting their shirts up."

"We were supposed to be letting gays in, who would have been taking pictures of men dropping their pants - not straights who took pictures of naked women. What is the service coming to?"

To be fair to Senator Campbell, he might have been against the "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

I am honestly flabberghasted that we tell 'em and tell 'em and tell 'em that we don't care what kind of sex lives they have, then we act all shocked that some of them are perverts. Does nobody in Congress have any brains?

Nevermind, that wasn't a fair question.

Shalom.

[AFPhys]

Women in coed military in remote postings + 'dont ask dont tell' = recipe for breakdown in unit discipline and morality.

Yep.

Nevertheless, I suspect strongly that if the truth can ever come out we will find that these dodo's were conspiring to take photos for paid porn sites.

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[WOSG]

The pictures are real in Abu Graib but even they were 'staged': Like the infamous one of the Iraqi prisoner with wires on a box.

There was no real torture, no real electricity. Just a pose that an idiot service-*woman* made a (perhaps frightened) prisoner do.
Why? to use to show other prisoners to threaten them 'talk or we do this'?
For FUN? To make something "artistic"?
A mole trying to make a pic useful for the 'anti-war' crowd? (and oh how they love it).

NO Real convincing explanation has come out of this as to why these pictures were TAKEN.

[WOSG]

"If men feel degraded by being supervised by a woman, then they apparently have a problem with their own masculinity. Women supervise men in all walks of life, not just in the military or law enforcement. "

The opposite is true of the entire Islamic and Muslim culture, and frankly most world culture not besotted with feminist ideology. Arab Men entirely comfortable with their view of themselves dont take kindly to being made submissive to women. It's degrading to them.

If we are going to be 'sensitive' to the Iraq prison situation, let's admit that part of the degradation of prisoners was that women were there bossing them around.

And if we are NOT going to admit that, let's quit being outraged by the porno photos. It's just a different line drawing.

[WOSG]

"Is this from a legit source, or Debka/WorldNutDaily/WeeklyWorldNews type crap?"

amend that to:

"Is this from a legit source, or Debka/WorldNutDaily/WeeklyWorldNews/Daily Mirror/BostonGlobe/NYT/CNN/BBC type crap?"

[swheats]

We're definately sure women should not be in those places and this gives Rumsfeld and others the ability to completely overall the areas he wants.

[AbnSarge]

"WHO took all these pictures/videos??? one person? several? How many military personnel were involved? Were these people Army or National Guards?"

"These people" were members of an Army Reserve unit (different from the National Guard). They receive the same basic training as the Active Army, and live by the same rules and regulations. When mobilized, they're placed on active duty and become for all intents and purposes part of the regular Army.

[TexasCajun]

Hey, Lynndie...did the psyops guys tell you to pull the train for your unit

Maybe she will answer you question on her next television appearance which will probably be any hour now! Maybe Perky Katie will ask her??

[WOSG]

The purpose of putting women in the service in these siuations is paying dividends for the America hating socialists who pushed this agenda during the Clinton years.. The first thing Clinton did as president was to allow homosexuals to stay in the military. Also GI Jane was pioneered and now we are paying the price. What the army wants are heterosexual males in their late teens and early twenties who are in god physical shape. There is a reason the armed services never wanted gays and women near front line combat. There is enough of a problem fighting a war without these other distractions. - Tom

What we have seen clearly is that certain pats of the Democratic party (ie most of it) IS NOT INTERESTED IN USA WINNING WARS. If they had an ounce of patriotism, they wouldnt be spreading the doom, defeatism and despair that they do. this is a perfect way to lose a war.

So clearly, they have another agenda. This is probably why they wont budge on women in combat. DoD as a social experiment and wedge issue is far far more important to them then the military as a fighting force.

[FeliciaCat]

So they would be subject to the same punishment as regular military if/when convicted? What is likely to happen to them?

Sorry for all the questions,I'm just trying to make sense of this...