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The difference between torture and humiliation (Vanity)
myself | 05/12/04 | Myself

Posted on 05/12/2004 8:10:56 PM PDT by bigeasy_70118

With the sawing off of Nick Berg's Al Qaeda was able to provide what the liberal media and democrats could not; provide context to the Iraqi prisoner abuse "scandal". For anyone who has watched the video of Nick Berg's senseless death, a queasy feeling remains for hours.

Watching terrorists shout their praise of Allah juxtapositioned against young Nick's blood curdling screams is unbelievably hard to watch. I viewed the video, this afternoon and even at 10:00 p.m. central time, I am still sick to my stomach.

The dull blade cuts back and forth, then Al Zwahari rips and twists Berg's head, the video skips and the Al Qaeda devils hold Berg's head up in defiance.

This is torture. Torture of our American brother.

Being forced to form a naked pyramid is not torture.

Being led around on a leash is not torture.

Having to stand naked in front of a female is not torture.

The Iraqi prisoners were humiliated. That's clear as day to anyone who has watched the Berg murder.

It's what happens when you lose a war. I know more than a few yankees who'll rib us southerners for our loss in the War of Northern Aggression.

Al Qaeda simply does not care if we like them, as long as US citizens whereever they are in the world fear them. Their Jihad will not end. Do you think the ilk that sawed off Berg's head would care if they had to bark like a dog or form a naked pryamid? Please. That kind of torture is too good for them.

I personally do not care if these Islamofacists like us. Right now, I am ready to nuke Mecca. I want them to fear us. "If he kills one of yours, you kill two of his" said Sean Connery in the Untouchables. He didn't say if they kill one of yours, sodomize your captives with a banana and then have your press whine about it.

I am not optimistic but I hope after watching the Nick Berg murder, the left in this country grows up.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; berg; liberalmedia; nickberg
I've been a member since 2000. I figured I earned the right to post a vanity. I am still pissed about watching the Berg video.
1 posted on 05/12/2004 8:10:57 PM PDT by bigeasy_70118
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To: bigeasy_70118
The Medieval Torture Museum
2 posted on 05/12/2004 8:14:29 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: bigeasy_70118
I am not optimistic but I hope after watching the Nick Berg murder, the left in this country grows up

The left don't want to get it, so don't hold your breath. You are right on in your post.

3 posted on 05/12/2004 8:15:20 PM PDT by zlala
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To: bigeasy_70118
I didn't watch it, but I did hear it. That was enough for me. I hate these people with all that is within me, as well as the treasonous leftists in this country who join them in their evil by taking their side. Naked with panties on their heads was not near enough punishment for them, and this country is doomed if people don't realize it.
4 posted on 05/12/2004 8:15:25 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left has blood on their hands, Again!)
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To: bigeasy_70118
Another:

"European Instruments of Torture and Capital Punishment from the Middle Ages to the present"

5 posted on 05/12/2004 8:16:19 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: bigeasy_70118
Saw the Berg pics on FR this morning. Forwarded to as many in my email address book as possible. My stomach is still queasy, more so after reading about him yelling while they sawed off his head yelling about their fake god Allah Schmallah is great. I'm an angry American now and I want to see some islamic heads roll. Want to see 10 islamic Abu Ghraib die beheading, chainsaw or immolation for every 1 coalition force member or innocent person like Berg that has died. I want revenge. I'M ONE DAMNED ANGRY AMERICAN.
6 posted on 05/12/2004 8:28:59 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: lilylangtree
When will it dawn on the clueless looies that some things are just plain evil?
7 posted on 05/12/2004 8:33:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: lilylangtree
I won't go as far and say that the left has Nick Berg's blood on their hands, but some of it did spray on to their lapels.

I want to know why Bush is repsonsible for 9/11 but 60 Minutes II is not responsible for Nick Berg's death?
8 posted on 05/12/2004 8:33:32 PM PDT by bigeasy_70118
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To: bigeasy_70118
Good rant.

Do you think our weasly Congressmen will now stop wringing their hands over those poor widdle ragheads having to strip and do a dance?

Let's get on with this war and finish what we started.

Blast Fallujah off the g-d map!
9 posted on 05/12/2004 8:35:48 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: bigeasy_70118
provide context to the Iraqi prisoner abuse "scandal"

Amen and right on the money!
10 posted on 05/12/2004 8:38:48 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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I emailed a link with the pics to several friends, though AOL blocked the link to their subscribers on their system. I think AOL doesnt want their members to see the pics - That's AOL/Time Warner for you!
11 posted on 05/12/2004 8:43:25 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: bigeasy_70118
The humiliation is fine, especially if these are islamicfacist terrorist, anyone who has even thought to fire a shot at any of our people, and/or if information could be obtained which might expose opposition plans and plots so that further violence and possible deaths might be prevented.
12 posted on 05/12/2004 9:13:38 PM PDT by thatcher ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it."~ GK Chesterton)
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To: bigeasy_70118
You've earned it.
13 posted on 05/12/2004 11:22:51 PM PDT by Richard Axtell
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