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TORTURE SCANDAL FINGERPRINTS
The Washington Times ^
| 05/12/04
| Donald Devine
Posted on 05/12/2004 12:26:43 PM PDT by Crusher138
Edited on 07/12/2004 3:42:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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To: Grampa Dave
Don't forget, every decision by personnel has to be vetted by a JAG-off..icer nowadays.
The Army has more lawyers than doctors.
To: Crusher138
When did this become a "scandal?"
Bush never tried to hide it and neither did Rumsfield.
And who was tourtured?
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posted on
05/12/2004 12:45:36 PM PDT
by
TSgt
(What have you done for your country today?)
To: nmh
BTW, is Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski a lesbian as well? She is married.
http://www.lowcountrynow.com/stories/050504/LOCkarpinski.shtml
But Karpinski was not at home. Nor was her husband, George, a lieutenant colonel at the U.S. Embassy in Oman.
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posted on
05/12/2004 12:48:46 PM PDT
by
syriacus
(Naive liberals "forget" Sobrero was beheaded - 2001, Pearl was beheaded - 2002, US invaded Iraq 2003)
To: nmh
BTW, is Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski a lesbian as well? This from the St. Pete Times:
She has no children, but her husband of 29 years, a lieutenant colonel, works with the U.S. Embassy in the small Arab nation of Oman.
Her picture scares me. Maybe her husband is a "beard?" No children. Maybe...
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posted on
05/12/2004 12:49:20 PM PDT
by
Crusher138
(Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just, and this be our motto "In God is our trust!")
To: woofie
I can do without Disneyland. ;-)
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posted on
05/12/2004 12:51:57 PM PDT
by
Quilla
(God bless America, President George W. Bush, our brave troops, and Freepers everywhere.)
To: MikeWUSAF
Hey, the title is the the title. Take it up with the author!
Personally, I think that "scandal" is only in the fevered wishes of the DemocRATS and - in this case - torture is only in the eyes of certain beholders.
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posted on
05/12/2004 12:52:30 PM PDT
by
Crusher138
(Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just, and this be our motto "In God is our trust!")
To: Crusher138
read later
To: Crusher138
Don Devine is an old hand in the conservative moment. I think he raises points worth thinking about.
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posted on
05/12/2004 12:53:41 PM PDT
by
T'wit
("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society" - Theodore Roosevelt)
To: nmh
I'd never know the difference.
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posted on
05/12/2004 12:54:07 PM PDT
by
jwalburg
(Coulter: Liberals always claim to know exactly what to do as soon as it's too late)
To: Crusher138
Seems the cause may be political correctness in the military. More Clinton legacy.That's just not....surprising.
Sounds like she probably got her star under Clinton. My question is, why was Central Command afraid of her? Afraid is not the right word, but I can't come up with another.
If they had went upto the Joint Chiefs and said "look, this General has let her command degenerate into something out of Stripes, we need to replace them with somebody else" rather than turn command over to others (which is where part of the confusion comes in over why there was such a lack of oversight), it probably would have been alright, and we would not have had this cluster-somethingrather that we have now.
I can't see the this Joint Chiefs/administration being scared of her. They are going to run this as smooth as possible, and use the best possible people. I just can't believe they'd be worried about the fact that she was one of the highest ranking females.
Instead they took a loosely-disciplined group of people, and put them in a gray-zone where they could try out whatever little deviant games they felt like.
To: Crusher138
Don't care one stinking bit about what happened to Abu Ghraib except that the new policy should be implemented that for every coalition member that's killed 10 of these prisoners will die by slow electrocution or by chainsaw cutting each appendage at a time.
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posted on
05/12/2004 12:56:32 PM PDT
by
lilylangtree
(Veni, Vidi, Vici)
To: steve8714
When did the Jag Off population increase>
Answer during the Clintoon reign of anti American Terrorism.
The left wing, perfumed, pink panty wearing liberal Jag Offs are a clear and present danger to members of our military who want to do their jobs correctly.
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posted on
05/12/2004 12:57:15 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(ABCNNBC BS = FRAUDCASTERS)
To: syriacus; nmh
Yes, she's married. It may or may not be a marriage of convenience between two homosexuals. We don't know and because of "don't ask/don't tell," we probably never will.
To: Crusher138
finally some refreshing truth. However, the feminists did not just take over during the Clinton administration. they have been a force to reckon with inside the DoD for some time. The DACOWITZ crowd has always been ramming their militant lesbian/feminism down the throats of the military, and the uniform services (excepting the honorable USMC) go along to get along. Its all about careers...until the s... hits the fan, like this prison scandal.
However, this is all symtomatic of the larger problem our military faces. As our society grows more gender neutral, those men who are naturally inclined to military service, conservative, traditional, honorable men, will opt out of serving because they don't want to be a victim of the gender wars within DoD. What infantry soldier wants to attack a nest of tough fighting, committed moslem fanatics when his female boss (future projection) has no idea of the suffering or misery of combat. I predict that the more women become esconced in the military the more men will not want to serve and fight for and with them.
Regards,
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posted on
05/12/2004 1:00:57 PM PDT
by
OldCorps
To: no more apples
I think a lot of women here would agree with you. To me, it's never been an issue of women's capability. They're capable. Period. But it's a social decision. Women do not belong on the battlefield for any number of reasons. I don't feel I have to go to that extent to prove my femine capability. Too many policy making women do, however. They're insecurities and/or agendas are costing American lives.
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posted on
05/12/2004 1:08:22 PM PDT
by
twigs
To: Crusher138
"...severe cultural humiliation..."Ah, the very best kind!
Shall we resume?
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posted on
05/12/2004 1:18:27 PM PDT
by
Redbob
To: Crusher138
I wonder what the feminazis think about this female general helping to cause the problems in the prison. Haven't heard word one, so I guess they are still tweaking things so that the feminist movement will not be at fault, in any way, shape or form.
I love it when liberal causes butt heads.
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posted on
05/12/2004 1:19:00 PM PDT
by
3catsanadog
(When anything goes, everything does.)
To: woofie
The last item is expendable.
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posted on
05/12/2004 1:24:54 PM PDT
by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: nmh
I heard the tail end of Rush the other day where one caller suggested the possibility of the gays being in the military and maybe if it was looked at, perhaps some of the ones involved were of the "Don't ask, don't tell" variety. As Rush said, much of the humiliation was homo-erotica.
Needless to say, no matter how often we point out that PC contributed to this, the liberals will try to get the upper hand by saysing we shouldn't have been in Iraq in the first place, yada, yada, yada.
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posted on
05/12/2004 1:26:28 PM PDT
by
3catsanadog
(When anything goes, everything does.)
To: dead
LOL...I will tell my wife
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posted on
05/12/2004 2:25:38 PM PDT
by
woofie
( 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.)
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