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Good versus Evil. Get used to it.

Posted on 05/11/2004 4:55:45 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I just watched the Nick Berg decapitation video. I watched it three times. I downloaded it, and I intend to watch it again and again and again. I am going to watch it until I am sure that I will never again forget the difference between Good and Evil. Now I am going to run my mouth and hope it does some good.

I have been meaning to write a post regarding the Iraqi Prisoner abuse scandal, and its relationship to the earlier LTC West issue, where I was in the extreme minority who felt that West should have been prosecuted and thrown out of the Army. Now, today’s video, I feel compelled to address these issues with you good folks. Recently I had the opportunity to talk to a couple of WWII veterans about their war and ours, and the differences in the US from then to now.

I got the sense that people from that earlier generation feel that they saved us and failed us at the same time. They saved us by winning the war, but they failed us in allowing us to forget why they were willing to fight and die for you and me in such numbers. They talked about signing up for the Army the day after Pearl Harbor, how there was no doubt in their minds about what they were doing, no one questioning the rightness of their cause or suggesting that the US deserved what happened to us that day.

On a trip from San Diego to Washington, I stopped at the Air Museum in Tillamook OR. Do yourself a favor and visit the place if you ever are in the area. It is inside a huge Blimp Hanger where Blimps were stored between missions patrolling the Pacific Coast during the early days of WWII. It is next to an airfield where an F-14 that was donated to the museum blew a tire trying to stop on their 500 ft runway. They made it. Inside that museum, there are aircraft and other displays that do a very good job reminding visitors of the sacrifices made by those who came before us.

I felt a bit of shame that at the time I was on my way to Everett WA to learn about the Boeing 777, instead of back in the Navy flying the Tomcat in defense of my country. There are displays of former aviators who lost their lives, their ribbons laid out next to their uniforms, with their pictures on the walls. Men who gave the ultimate sacrifice so that you and I could sit back tonight and argue whether Shack or Kobe can come back against the Spurs, as if that was all we needed to be concerned about tonight.

Today, instead of enjoying my time off, I am filled with rage about what was done to that civilian by those bastard in sheets so brave they could not show their faces while they cut, no they SAWED that young mans head off while he screamed in agony. More so, I am outraged by the performance of the popular media. I am without Fox News in my hotel room tonight, so I have been forced to watch CNN tell me over and over that Taguba said that the Prisoner Scandal was a “failure of leadership” and cut the tape before Taguba can be shown saying “from the Brigadier General on down”, in a blatant attempt to spin what the man said to appear to be an indictment of the Bush administration. I have drawn my conclusion: CNN is Evil.

I watched as much of today’s hearings as CNN would show where it appeared that they would cut away whenever a positive point was being made. I watched Senator Byrd and the other Democrats poke and poke and poke, looking for anything that would fuel anger against President Bush, in clear disregard of what the witnesses said. Senate Democrats are Evil. I can’t help but be reminded that there are people in this country who actively support these Senators. They vote for them over and over again. In my book, Ted Kennedy is a murderer, yet he sits there passing judgment on others as though he was saintly against a President he considers to be beneath him. Teddy Kennedy is Evil personified. I see the Democrats and Media passing judgment on our President and I think of what they might be saying were this May of 1942, instead of 2004. Does anyone doubt that they would be actively working against our men fighting WWII?

These are sick people. SICK. The fact that they hold office means that at least 40% of this country is made up of either sick or stupid people. I did not risk my life for 22 years in the Navy defending these people, but the rest of the nation that keeps them at bay. I hope I was defending those who can disagree with the strategy and actions of our President, yet respect his integrity and honesty. Nothing bothers me more than to link to Free Republic and see a gathering of so-called Conservatives bashing our President because they have some disagreement with his actions. There is never any context or perspective, just attack. We don’t consider the enormous responsibilities of his office, when the most important thing some of us have to do each day is let out the cat. Why can’t we disagree without disrespect?

The hardest decision I will make today will be where I eat dinner. I won’t come online to attack people who are tasked with saving my life from terrorism, no matter how much I may disagree with a tactic or idea. Call me Bush-bot, say I drank the Kool-aid, say whatever, but don’t assume that while you sit there with a coke and a smile, that you know what its like to be someone in the Bush Administration responsible for your American ass, before you rush off to participate in some Web poll because you cant stand it if that poll disagrees with you to the point where you don’t mind making money the site that produced the poll you so desperately want to lean your way. Even if that site is CNN or MSNBC, whose mission is to take away your independence. WTF are you doing?

Folks it is our turn. If America is to remain true to the nation that those who went before us wanted it to be, we will never forget what those on the other side of the aisle are trying to do to us. I remember not too long ago, under a Democrat president, when I did not know if my squadron was going to be allotted the fuel and maintenance money necessary to keep our pilots skills up to par. Flight hours were cut and cut again, while Bill Clinton was trying to find ways to give more of your money to PBS and the NEA so that they could respectively lie and offend us. There are Democrats in Congress who think we landed on Mars, who can’t get a credit card, who have never had a private sector job, who take great pride in taking your money and giving it to some loser who couldn’t spell cat if you spotted them the C and the T. That is their constituency. They are EVIL.

I have no doubt that Bush is going to win in November. I know that that opinion is not shared among all of us, but I don’t know why not, when it is up to us to make it happen. If Bush does NOT win, it will be our fault, because we will have decided that what is going on right now against us is acceptable. We will have decided that our opponents on the left are just well-meaning people who just disagree with us on the issues, instead of the evil bastards they happen to be. I don’t know if every evil person knows themselves to be evil, and I don’t care. All I know is that while Americans are roasted, and hung on bridges like overcooked brisket, and soldiers are shot at from places of worship, and a civilian’s head swinging from the fist of a coward in a mask, CNN, the DNC and liberals all over the world are trying to blame my President for everything wrong in the world, instead of the evil perpetrators committing these actions.

At the same time, we give ratings to Chris Matthews, watch CNN’s commercials, listen to Don Imus, stay up for Nightline, and wish Joe Scarborough success as he forgets where he came from, so he can serve his liberal masters and keep his job. This is the last night I stay in a hotel that does not have FoxNews available. I may be crazy, but I don’t want to pay to be propagandized. I don’t want to hear anymore about how scandalous it is to embarrass an Iraqi terrorist, when these networks won’t even show these terrorists killing one of our people. We are at war with the Democrats and the Media, and if we are to save ourselves from their goals, we must hurt them where they will feel it. Just don’t watch. Don’t listen, and for god’s sake DON’T POLL. Make the bastards earn their money by become fair and balanced.

I’ve got a lot more to say, but my fingers hurt. If I offended you, just wait, because I’ll be back with more. If you get a chance, watch the video. It will hurt and disgust you, but it will remind you of what we are up against.

Pukin Dog


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To: Pukin Dog
Well said P-Dog! Rant all you want, sir!

BTTT
221 posted on 05/11/2004 9:00:08 PM PDT by JakeSladder
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To: Pukin Dog
SUPERB!!!!

redrock

222 posted on 05/11/2004 9:05:42 PM PDT by redrock ("Better a Shack in Heaven....than a Mansion in Hell"---My Grandma)
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To: Pukin Dog
"All I know is that while Americans are roasted, and hung on bridges like overcooked brisket, and soldiers are shot at from places of worship, and a civilian’s head swinging from the fist of a coward in a mask, CNN, the DNC and liberals all over the world are trying to blame my President for everything wrong in the world, instead of the evil perpetrators committing these actions"
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You NAILED it, PD! Terrific rant.
223 posted on 05/11/2004 9:09:14 PM PDT by cowdog77
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To: redrock
Yours is better. We dont scare easy. Damn straight.
224 posted on 05/11/2004 9:09:19 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
Is there an executive summary available?
;-)

Alright, I read it. I wish I was as optimistic as you about Bush winning. Today - he'd probably win but this is going to be one long hot summer and fall. Everything the jihadists can do will be done. Suicide attacks, IEDs, sniping, kidnapping, school shootings? - who knows. Every act will be an attempt to demoralize our forces and populace.

What enrages me is that this strategy has a possibility of working because of RATS like kennedy, daschole, x42 and his witch of a wife, byrd, etc. I have to post now before I start fantasizing about what I'd do if I'd lost my family and had inoperable cancer and a nice rifle with a good scope ...

Lastly you said: "I did not risk my life for 22 years in the Navy defending these people, but the rest of the nation that keeps them at bay." Actually you were defending them too - they just did not and do not appreciate that fact. Thank you for defending me and mine. < /Salute >

;-)

225 posted on 05/11/2004 9:16:16 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Have a nice day or else!)
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To: Pukin Dog
Thank you for a sincere post concerning a terrible act---since I am a WW2 vet, I cannot comprehend what is happening to my America these days when elected leaders damn the Nation and the President for every thing that our enemies do to our soldiers and civilians all over the world--why did I give 5 years of my life some 60 years ago to see my glorious country villified by many in high places?--I can no longer crawl on my belly or jump over walls very well but I could still man a fixed machine gun post somwhere--what is happening is history (which I love dearly) showing what has happened to every nation when it waxed fat and lazy, giving their security over to a few and attempting to buyoff the enemy with kindness or tribute--we shall go down and be defeated from within, not from without, unless we heed this last call to stand and fight--God Bless our military and the 'honorable' leaders of our Nation
226 posted on 05/11/2004 9:17:39 PM PDT by cmotormac44
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To: Pukin Dog
Bookmarked...I hurt and am angry like you are.
227 posted on 05/11/2004 9:18:57 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Take THAT Kerry and Hitlery! FREEPERS ROCK!!!!)
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To: Pukin Dog
If you get a chance, watch the video. It will hurt and disgust you, but it will remind you of what we are up against.

I can't watch the video because I'm afraid it will send me to far over the edge

I have read freepers posts describing how horrible his murder was ... and it left me shaking with anger

Excellent Thread Pukin Dog

228 posted on 05/11/2004 9:21:41 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Pukin Dog
You got onto people like me who dare to criticize the President while the Democrats run amok in full-out traitor mode. While he has my vote he has let me down on guarding our sovereignty and signs treaties that work against this nation’s better interests. I criticize him because he's been flirting with half-measures and not allowing our people to finish the job. Our President is behaving more like a politician than the Commando in Chief these times call for.

He won't even call the war for what it is and has yet to even look sideways at the ones who have financed most of the horror: Saudi Arabia. If he wants to realign the political landscape in the Middle East he needs to take down the bullies on the block. Not doing so is a half-measure.

He knows full well that the vanished WMDs that the liberals won’t shut up about are in Syria. That country has absolutely nothing to offer the world but Islamic repression. Not making them toe the line is a half-measure.

Last year in Afghanistan our generals asked for permission to destroy the poppy fields that were ready for harvesting. They were told that destroying the opium wasn’t part of their mission and doing so would upset the Afghanis who depend on it. Half-measure.

Now our people must tiptoe around mosques while taking fire from them. They must forsake tactical advantages to spare the sensibilities of fanatics. They were forced to stop their successful assault on the last bastion of Saddam worshippers. Half-measures.

Now we’re treated to this outrage against western civilization perpetrated by a group the Democrats maintained had no presence or influence in Iraq. This butchery was committed in the hope of aggravating the conflict between the Moslem factions and to set back our efforts to establish secular government. Why were these creatures able to pull of such a heinous act? Money from Saudi Arabia, training in countries like Syria, leadership from Afghanistan and safe harbor in Iraq.

They were able to do it because of half-measures.

The Jews say “Never forget” for unquestionable reason. We should look back thirty years and say “Never again”. Win or get off the pot. No half measures.

Thank you for your fine service and contributions.
229 posted on 05/11/2004 9:22:06 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: cmotormac44
I salute you, sir. You gave more than the rest of us could ever repay.
230 posted on 05/11/2004 9:22:12 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Try this angle. When you consider what Bush has done in his first term, cant you imagine what terrifies the Liberals the most?

Lame Duck President Bush.

When Bush is unencumbered by the need to win an election, and get along with a crazy Congress, I think his actions will more than make up for anything lacking this go round. This fact has the liberals very afraid. When Bush has nothing to lose, he is going to change the world.

231 posted on 05/11/2004 9:25:56 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
You're right;it is past time. I'll join you in that ban should it come to pass. I hope all the jackasses on the Left and their enablers on alleged right understand that there is now no longer any tolerance for treasonous antics.Period.

The young man's murder was a horror, now time to avenge his bones as well. .For those single minded, petty ,single issue fools, the line is drawn;you are either with the United States, her Commander in chief and those faithful servents of a freedom you don't understand, or you are against us all. Make your choice, live or die with it.

232 posted on 05/11/2004 9:30:23 PM PDT by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: cmotormac44
cmotormac, it's good to see you!

It's been a long time!

I'm COB1, BTW.
As I've said before to you, thank you, sir, for all you've given to this country.

233 posted on 05/11/2004 9:32:14 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Pukin Dog
I'm counting on it. Kerry's about 29 years late for a firing squad. Just saying if we don't see more service for the country's well being in the second term those NWO accusations will start meaning something.
234 posted on 05/11/2004 9:37:48 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: DestroytheDemocrats; Pukin Dog; onyx; nopardons
Who are these morally confused people who vote for Ted Kennedy?

They're not moral at all, rather Jacobite ne;er do wells and adolescent thugs is what they are.They're the Mob, the fools who laughed at the kiss of Madame la Guillotine on those whom they envied and despised, until, in their last dull moment of horror, discovered she was about to kiss them as well.

235 posted on 05/11/2004 9:39:52 PM PDT by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: Pukin Dog
LOL!!!

I've ALWAYS said that what I do isn't really writing....more like an old alley cat hackin' up some hairball.

...hell...I STILL say that. LOL!!!

redrock

236 posted on 05/11/2004 9:44:11 PM PDT by redrock ("Better a Shack in Heaven....than a Mansion in Hell"---My Grandma)
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To: Pukin Dog
Amazing post, thank you.

I have not seen the video but when my dh described Nick Berg's death, I wept. And prayed for his family.

My disgust over the prisoner abuses is over. Mr. Berg's death changed that in an instant.

237 posted on 05/11/2004 9:44:21 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: Pukin Dog
Thank you, but I gave nothing but time since I came home safely and have lived a full,wonderful life--a loving wife of 54 years,8 children,27 grands and greats,in a beautiful land that will never be duplicated on this earth--the ones who gave,as you well know, are under white crosses and the star of david all over this world--I am going to the Dedication of the WWll Memorial in Washington to honor, in my small way, those who served and are no longer here--it just seems so terribly wrong for lesser men to criticize our honest leaders and good, decent troopers when so much is at stake--I know what my Lord has said will come and only an utter fool would not believe Him--with what we have seen in the past year, who would not understand there hast to be something better somewhere else but in this wicked, evil world-
238 posted on 05/11/2004 9:45:13 PM PDT by cmotormac44
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To: TexasCowboy
getting old, COBI, and so saddened by the attitude of those who would be our 'leaders'?---FR seems to be my last bastion of hope---cheers
239 posted on 05/11/2004 9:48:58 PM PDT by cmotormac44
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To: Pukin Dog
"40% of this country is made up of either sick or stupid people."

Let's get one thing straight here....

we are always going to have the leftist perverted God-hating people in this world....voting for the evil domain....

but the ones that really piss me off are the lame Clintoon Christians, the lame country folk that don't bother to vote, the self-centered libertarians and constitutionalist, the Perot voters, all the working class people that just sit there and complain and never vote....

the Kennedy's and the Rangels of the world have their little kingdoms, where people vote blindly for them no matter what....

but what do we get here on the conservative and Republican side?.....we get 60,000 stinking votes for the libertarian canidate for Senate here in Washington, thereby electing another stinking liberal Senator for 6 yrs by a whooping 2000 votes....

I am so sick of people voting for their SINGLE issue and handing elections to the RATS.....

and I am sick of the massive number of working class good Americans who can't bother to vote period....

240 posted on 05/11/2004 9:49:47 PM PDT by cherry
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