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Forced conversion to Islam fatal for Christian boy (Islamics torture Xian boy for 5 days)
asiannews.it ^ | 5.10.04

Posted on 05/10/2004 12:11:17 PM PDT by ambrose

10 May, 2004

PAKISTAN

Forced conversion to Islam fatal for Christian boy

New incident reveals frightening trend

Lahore (AsiaNews/Ucan) - Outrage at the death of a Catholic boy forced to convert to Islam at the hands of torturous abductors has prompted the Pakistan Catholic Bishop's Commission of Justice and Peace, to take up the legal case. The Christian youth died of injuries inflicted by a teacher and students at an Islamic school. The National Commission for Justice and Peace declared May 4th that the incident reflects a worrying trend of forced conversions.

Javed Anjum, an 18-year-old commerce student was seized by a teacher and students of Jamia Hassan bin Almurtaza Madrasa (an Islamic religious school) on April 17th when he stopped for a drink of water at a nearby tap in Toba Tek Singh, 310 kilometres south of Islamabad. For five days he was tortured until his condition became so serious that the abusers took him to a police station, stating that he had been attempting to steal an electric water pump, and filed a charge of robbery against him. The boy was kept in police custody until April 24th, when he was finally taken for medical treatment. By that time, according to the Bishop's Commission investigation, it was too late to save him. Anjum died May 2nd, in a nearby Faisalabad hospital, of "renal failure", having also suffered broken ribs and loss of eyesight.

According to the Bishop's Commission, police refused to investigate the cause of Anjum's injuries, or the allegation against him. Chairman of the Commission, Peter Jacob said on May 7th that officials at the Islamic school tried to create an impression that Anjum was a drug addict, and now local Muslim political leaders are supporting and protecting the school. "It only shows how desperate and aware the perpetrators are of their crime and what they had done, that they tried through various allegations to cover it up."

The Bishop's Commission claimed, "Religious intolerance and discrimination is the reason behind the recent incidents where young non-Muslims were forcibly converted and circumcised." In November another Pakistan Catholic boy, 15-year-old Zeeshan Gill, was abducted by a Muslim classmate and forced to convert. He was threatened and beaten by Islamic clerics and made to attend religious classes at Madrasa Jamia al Qasim al Aloom, an Islamic boarding school. He eventually escaped from his captors, but he and his mother and brother have since been in hiding for fear of death.

Beyond its concern for justice in Anjum's case, the Church's commission urged the government of the Punjab province to "take long-term steps to root out religious hatred and take timely action against the perpetrators of hate crimes in accordance with the law."

"We appeal to the federal government to ensure equality of rights and opportunities, which is the only way to build a society based on justice, peace, and human rights," the commission's statement said.

The official teaching of Islam condemns forced conversions of others.


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41 posted on 05/11/2004 2:01:06 AM PDT by ambrose (AP Headline: "Kerry Says His 'Family' Owns SUV, Not He")
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To: ambrose
'The official teaching of Islam condemns forced conversions of others'

Well thats a lie for a start. The whole frikkin evil cult is based on forcing people to convert or pay 'tax'.
42 posted on 05/11/2004 6:19:06 AM PDT by AngloSaxon (successful)
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To: fasttalker
You quote from an early Surah.

It is also the teaching of Mohammed that you follow the later Surah quotes if they in any challenge the earlier ones.

One of the useful deceits of this cult of murder and bizarre sexual perversions to quote the early Koran to try to confuse the infidel in Dar al Harb.

43 posted on 05/11/2004 6:25:16 AM PDT by Mamzelle (for a post-Neo conservatism)
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To: ambrose
Message to all white liberals:
Repeat, "Islam is arelgion of peace."

Liberals, this mantra will help you overcome the pain when your child or grandchild has to endure what that boy had to endure.
44 posted on 05/11/2004 6:26:56 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: fasttalker
PS--(postscript)

As Mohammed said--"War is deceit"--it is acceptable to lie to the infidel.

BTW--Welcome to FR.

45 posted on 05/11/2004 6:27:18 AM PDT by Mamzelle (for a post-Neo conservatism)
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To: NRA2BFree
Ping!
47 posted on 05/11/2004 10:23:09 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: fasttalker
Dar al Ha(r)b means "Place (world) of War"-- as Dar al Islam means that world brought into submission. IOW--either you're in the world of the defeated or the yet-to-be defeated. "Islam" does not mean "peace"--as the deceivers would like the naive to belive.

Everything is war to the Muslim, so there is no significance to the question you pose--"Do you mean that Mohammed says its OK to lie to infidels in wartime only or at any time?" . Jihad **is** Islam, and jihad means war. The more I read, the worse it gets. It's a perfect horror, from beginning to end, a ghastly threat and prospect.

The quote is from Sahih Al Bokhari, vol. 4. Sayings of Mohammed.

49 posted on 05/11/2004 10:42:49 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them)
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To: fasttalker
re: I think the view you ascribe generally to Muslims is true of Islamic "fundamentalists" (so-called) like Bin Laden. )))

When I was little, I believed in unicorns. Much rarer is the Moderate Muslim. Even if they exist somewhere, they are clearly cowed, silent and ineffectual. In which case, they don't signify.

re: The Sahih Bukhari is accepted by Sunni Muslims, but not Shiites (generally), not that I think it matters much, because, as I said, Mohammed clearly did draw a distinction between war and peace.

The Shia are slightly less deranged than the Sunni, true. The Sunni are most of Islam, however, Egypt and Saudi and Pakistan (this article). If I had to be a woman crushed under the sadistic oppression of Islam, I'd definitely choose Shia Iran as the lesser of two horrible evils. There's one for your side.

re: But, let me rephrase the question: Is it OK for Muslims in the Dar al Islam to lie to infidels?)))

Again, your question does not make a lot of sense. Mohammed said yes--to the Sunnis and little Aisha, at least--so clearly at least the Sunni Muslim has been given dispensation to do so.

My tagline is taken from a later Surah, BTW. Later quotations hold sway--the earlier quotations are used to lull the unwary.

51 posted on 05/11/2004 12:57:26 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them)
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To: Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Andrew65; AniGrrl; Antoninus; apologia_pro_vita_sua; attagirl; ...
Ping

Forced conversion to Islam fatal for Christian (Catholic) boy

I haven't seen this posted on the Religion forum.
53 posted on 05/11/2004 8:04:06 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: ambrose
Religion of Peace bump
54 posted on 05/11/2004 8:25:42 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: oyez; Burkeman1; abu afak; Spann_Tillman; Mr. Mojo
Religion of peace???
55 posted on 05/11/2004 9:16:44 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: 88keys
"along the lines of the harsh "eye for an eye" writings of the Christian Bible's Old Testament."

My logic tells me that "and eye for an eye" indicates revenge, but only in equal proportion to the injury. Whereas the terrorist training manual called the Koran says to either convert or kill Jews and Christians. To the man who wrote that the koran condemns forced conversion, he is totally wrong. Islam has converted entire nations to their hellish 'religion' through conquest and terror from its very inception. Indeed, Islam was spread through conquest and terror.

56 posted on 05/11/2004 10:10:04 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: fasttalker
WHAT? You may be a fast talker but you're talking out the side of your mouth. The Koran absolutely does command the slaying of Christians and Jews.

Surah 9:73 (Make war on unbelievers) "Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate."

Surah 9:5 (Slay the idolators/unbelievers) "When the sacred months are over slay the idolators wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them."

57 posted on 05/11/2004 10:17:24 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: fasttalker
Surah 9:73 (Make war on unbelievers) "Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate."

Surah 9:5 (Slay the idolators/unbelievers) "When the sacred months are over slay the idolators wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them."

58 posted on 05/11/2004 10:18:34 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: fasttalker
I think the view you ascribe generally to Muslims applies to the fundamentalists like (bin laden)"

Yeah right. Islam was founded by a wanted robber and pedophile, Mohammed. It spread itself through conquest and terror. Islam was hatched in the bowels of Hell, where it will take all of its followers.

59 posted on 05/11/2004 10:24:14 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: Land of the Irish
Wherever Islam is on the rise, life begins to suck for everybody.

Islam is a deadly world-wide plague and liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents the societal body's defense.

It's way past time we get serious about the clear and present threat of Islam.
60 posted on 05/11/2004 10:36:11 PM PDT by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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