Forced conversion to Islam fatal for Christian boy (Islamics torture Xian boy for 5 days)

asiannews.it ^ | 5.10.04

[sociotard]

He died for refusing to deny christ. There're worse way's to leave the world. Many are less painful, but few more honorable.

[PetroniusMaximus]

***that the young man is a candidate.****


It is my understanding tha all true Christians are saints by virtue of what Christ accomplished on their behalf.

"To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints..."



Now as for this dear boy, he surley is counted among those described here...

"Then one of the elders asked me, "These in white robes--who are they, and where did they come from?"
I answered, "Sir, you know."
And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore, they are before the throne of God
and serve him day and night in his temple;
and he who sits on the throne will spread his tent over them.
Never again will they hunger;
never again will they thirst.
The sun will not beat upon them,
nor any scorching heat.
For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd;
he will lead them to springs of living water.
And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes."

[ought-six]

Oh, how I detest islam.

[aimhigh]

The official teaching of Islam condemns forced conversions of others.

This is true, but it doesn't mean what we think it does. To Islam, giving someone a choice between death and conversion is not considered forced conversion.

[Mears]

YOU WON'T SEE THE MEDIA OUTCRY ON THIS INCIDENT UNTIL HELL FREEZES OVER.

[ought-six]

"God bless him. May he find peace with our Father."

Amen to that. This boy was a true martyr, not like those bomb-laden malcontents who populate the mohammedan cult.

[ought-six]

"Islam is the problem...THIS IS NOT THE WAR ON TERROR."

That's a fact. The WOT is just one battle in what is proving to be a clash of civilizations. We better accept that that's what we are engaged in, because the other side does.

[Arthur McGowan]

It's just like if Teddy Kennedy ran the Catholic church in Massachusetts!

What do you mean, "if"?

[ChuckR163]

Another example of "peaceful muslims"? Poppycock! The Quran is full of encouragement of rape, plunder, murder, including the murder of direct family. See the excerpts at www.prophetofdoom.net.

[Delta 21]

As long as they didnt take any pictures or video of the humiliation he suffered it A-OK.

[It's me]

It says he was Catholic. He obviously didn't convert to Islam and kept his faith until death. Therefore Javed Anjum is a martyr of his faith and is most certainly in heaven.

God Bless him.

[88keys]

Can this report possibly be true?! It seems unbelievable that this would go on anywhere in this day and age.

Or at least, that's what we're supposed to believe, maybe. Why isn't this barbarian conduct "common knowledge" in the "West", if true? And because much of the world is theoretically "civilized", they're consumed with angst and accusations over the "humiliation abuse" of a few criminal prisoners at the hands of even fewer "rogue" US soldiers, but there's no concern for the acts of the "barbarians"? Are we just supposed to say "they don't know any better"?

President Bush is doing exactly the right thing in being relentless about the rule of law in the case of American soldiers and the Abu Ghraib prison. I don't care why these people did what they did, it was wrong, and it was unforgiveable in context of the "big picture", but there should be the same relentless pursuit and administration of justice "across the board".

Maybe we should call the U.N.? < / bitter sarcasm! >

[ChuckR163]

A few casual words from the Quran et al.

Tabari IX:69 “Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us.”

Ishaq:489 “Do the bastards think that we are not their equal in fighting? We are men who think that there is no shame in killing.”

Tabari VII:97/Ishaq:368 “We carried Ka’b’s head and brought it to Muhammad during the night. We saluted him as he stood praying and told him that we had slain Allah’s enemy. When he came out to us we cast Ashraf’s head before his feet. The Prophet praised Allah that the poet had been assassinated and complimented us on the good work we had done in Allah’s Cause. Our attack upon Allah’s enemy cast terror among the Jews, and there was no Jew in Medina who did not fear for his life.’”

Tabari VII:97 “The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, ‘Kill any Jew who falls under your power.’”

Ishaq:369 “Thereupon Mas’ud leapt upon Sunayna, one of the Jewish merchants with whom his family had social and commercial relations and killed him. The Muslim’s brother complained, saying, ‘Why did you kill him? You have much fat in you belly from his charity.’ Mas’ud answered, ‘By Allah, had Muhammad ordered me to murder you, my brother, I would have cut off your head.’ Wherein the brother said, ‘Any religion that can bring you to this is indeed wonderful!’ And he accepted Islam.”

Bukhari:V1B1N6 “Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.”

Ishaq: 676 “‘You obey a stranger who encourages you to murder for booty. You are greedy men. Is there no honor among you?’ Upon hearing those lines Muhammad said, ‘Will no one rid me of this woman?’ Umayr, a zealous Muslim, decided to execute the Prophet’s wishes. That very night he crept into the writer’s home while she lay sleeping surrounded by her young children. There was one at her breast. Umayr removed the suckling babe and then plunged his sword into the poet. The next morning in the mosque, Muhammad, who was aware of the assassination, said, ‘You have helped Allah and His Apostle.’ Umayr said. ‘She had five sons; should I feel guilty?’ ‘No,’ the Prophet answered. ‘Killing her was as meaningless as two goats butting heads.’”

[88keys]

The Koran 2:256 says "Let there be no compulsion in religion".

However, Muslims do impose a tax (the Jizya) on infidels who live among them. It is based on the Koran 9:29.

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His apostle nor acknowledge the religion of truth (even if they are) of the People of the Book until they pay the Jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued."

I haven't read or researched the Koran, but I have to likewise wonder if many Muslims have?! There cannot be a doubt that there are "peaceful Muslims", but the quotes above are quite inflammatory, along the lines of the harsh "eye for an eye" writings of the Christian Bible's Old Testament. There also can be no doubt that these particular kinds of "religious instructions" from the Koran have been interpreted and preached to incite "jihad" and all manner of abusive and even murderous conduct on the part of some of the "faithful".

That's just a comment, I guess...if I think of a way to resolve this dilemma, I'll be phoning the White House and the State Department posthaste!! ;)

[NoClones]

islam is a cult of violence, lead by murders & fanatics.

'Religion' of peace: not!!

[cupcakes]

I can just imagine the reaction of a leftist to this event contrasted with a harmless local event involving a Christian. Let's see according to the left a forced conversion in regards to Christianity is a non-Christian having to view a nativity scene in a public place or having a kindergartner say a prayer at a public school lunch table.
A muslim forced conversion which kills or seriously injures another human being and done with the intent to forcibly convert that person to this sick religion is seen by the left as diversity.
Mark my word, the left will not see anything wrong with this type of real torture, death, and injury while Christians in this country will continue to be badgered by the ACLU as being intolerant for merely being expressive in public. A bit on a tangent, but it irks me when this is going on in the world without a peep from those types who abhor intolerance while they persecute others for exercising basic freedom of speech and religion rights in this country.

[olde north church]

it's not forced conversion, it's SPIRITUAL RAPE!

[Dead Dog]

Yah that is a complete fabrication. Forced conversion is all over Islam. I guess, it's not forced, you are given a choice to convert or die...they do leave it up to you.