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Insulting the memory of FDR [were Japanese internment camps wrong?]
WorldNet Daily ^ | March 20, 2004 | Les Kinsolving

Posted on 05/09/2004 7:01:00 AM PDT by risk

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Saturday, March 20, 2004



Insulting the memory of FDR


Posted: March 20, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Les Kinsolving


� 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

The Associated Press reporter in the House of Representatives told me, "we didn't report the passage of the Honda resolution because it was done with a voice vote, with just a handful of members on the floor."

But this resolution was introduced by Rep. Michael Honda, a Democrat of California, whose website advertises him as having "spent his early childhood with his family at Amache, Colo., concentration camp during World War II."

This is an insult to the U.S. Supreme Court's liberals such as Felix Frankfurter, Hugo Black and Willaim O. Douglas, who, in the 1944 Korematsu case, ruled emphatically against the "concentration camp" libel. They also ruled constitutional the relocation of all Japanese resident aliens and Japanese-Americans from the three West Coast states and parts of Arizona.

This resolution, passed by that device of non-accountability the voice vote, also insulted the memory of our great wartime president, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, as well as Johns Hopkins University President Milton Eisenhower, director of the War Relocation Authority.

This resolution calls for a "National Day of Remembrance to increase public awareness of the events surrounding the restriction, exclusion and internment of individuals and families during World War II."

Congressman Honda claims this is a "shameful chapter in U.S. history," ordered by President Roosevelt's Executive Order 9066 signed on Feb. 19, 1942 � the day this Honda resolution designates as a National Day of Remembrance.

What is really shameful is the fact that most of U.S. media today refuses to report the historical fact that our U.S. intelligence code-breakers who broke the Japanese code discovered hundreds of Japanese aliens and Japanese-Americans in those West Coast states who were functioning as spies for Imperial Japan.

They were watching all of our Naval shipping and had infiltrated many of our defense plants. But had they been arrested, this would have compromised and ended our breaking of that Japanese code � which later helped the United States win the decisive Battle of Midway.

The hundreds of Japanese spies on our West Coast had to be stopped without any revelation that we had broken the Japanese code.

For this reason, President Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066 � for which the Honda resolution is now defaming him.

Dr. Roger McGrath has been professor of history at both UCLA and California State University at Northbridge. He is also a major in the U.S. Marine Corps, Reserve Intelligence. He has also been a technical adviser and participant on television's A & E, the History Channel, the Discovery Channel, TNT, ABC and Disney.

He has written for the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, Harpers, the Encyclopedia of the American West and the American Conservative, in which he wrote the following in the March 15th issue about Honda's resolution passed by the House:

Honda's resolution contains a series of misrepresentations that have passed for fact for so many years that they are now generally accepted without question. Moreover, the resolution posits President Jimmy Carter's Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment and its report, "Personal Justice Denied," as the final authority on the subject. After "20 days of hearings" and "over 750 witnesses," the commission concluded that E.O. 9066 was not justified by military necessity but was the result of "race prejudice, war hysteria and a failure of political leadership." That conclusion, however, is contrary to the facts as revealed by MAGIC, the decryptions of coded Japanese transmissions. The commission ignored MAGIC entirely in its original report, as it did witnesses who were available to proffer information supporting Roosevelt's order. The few witnesses who attempted to testify in support of E.O. 9066 were drowned out by an unruly mob of spectators.

This commission's incredible behavior, as well as the reparations voted by Congress of $20,000 to each of 82,000 evacuees ($1.6 million) were termed "shameful" by California's U.S. Sen. S.I. Hayakawa. He also described "a wolf pack of dissident young Japanese-Americans making an unconscionable raid on the U.S. Treasury."

(The senator was, in turn, denounced by these people as "a banana: yellow on the outside, white on the inside.")

Dr. McGrath also reports:

John J. McCloy, the assistant secretary of war in 1942, who monitored the evacuation and relocation, said the proceedings were "a horrendous affront to our tradition for fair and objective hearings. ... Whenever I sought in the slightest degree to justify the action ... ordered by President Roosevelt, my testimony was met with hisses and boos such as I have never, over an experience extending back to World War I, been heretofore subjected to. Others had similar experiences ... it became clear from the outset of my testimony that the commission was not at all disposed to conduct an objective investigation."

The officer in charge of the evacuation, Karl R. Bendesten, was subjected to similar treatment and simply stopped in the middle of his testimony. "I knew it would be fruitless," said Bendesten. "Every commissioner had made up his mind before he was appointed."

One of U.S. media's most inexcusable wrongs is the widespread confusion of the words "internment" and "relocation."

There were only 17,000 Japanese aliens and Japanese-Americans interned. They were quite justifiably interned, because those who were U.S.-born declared their loyalty to Emporor Hirohito. One-third of these were Japanese-Americans who renounced their American citizenship.

There was no need to relocate any Japanese aliens or Japanese-Americans from the Territory of Hawaii � because immediately after Pearl Harbor, the U.S. Army quite justifiably imposed martial law.

Dr. McGrath reports:

The great majority of Japanese were not interned but required only to relocate outside of the Western Defense Zone, an area that included California, the western halves of Oregon and Washington, and a small portion of Arizona. Those who were not able to move were eventually taken to relocation centers, built with the same materials and on similar patterns as Army bases.

Japanese could leave a relocation center if they could re-establish themselves outside of the Defense Zone, and some 35,000 did so. Those who relocated on their own by the end of March 1942 did not go to the centers.

Among those who relocated on their own and never went to any relocation center were the Toguris of California. They moved to Chicago and opened a food store.

Their daughter, Iva, UCLA Class of 1940, had moved to their homeland along with thousands of other U.S.-born Japanese. This daughter is still alive. She was known to many as "Tokyo Rose." She was found guilty of treason. But instead of being hanged (like the British hanged "Lord Haw Haw"), she was sent to the Women's Federal Prison in Alderson, W.Va. � from which she was released after being pardoned by President Gerald Ford on his last day in the White House.

The relocation centers to which the great majority of Japanese resident aliens or citizens were sent were relatively easy to leave if one could obtain a job anywhere outside the West Coast states. Dr. McGrath reports:

More than 4,300 Japanese left to go to college at government expense and thousands left to work on farms. Meanwhile, in the relocation centers the death rate was lower and the birth rate higher than that of the general American population. So, too, was the graduation rate from high school. At the time, the Japanese-American Citizens' League (JACL) praised the government for providing the relocation centers. Dillon Myer, the director of the War Relocation Authority, said, "Nothing was done regarding the relocation centers without the approval of the JACL."

And by contrast to the wonderfully humane treatment of those in relocation centers � who, later, received $20,000 apiece -- U.S. prisoners of the Japanese, including survivors of the Bataan Death March, were paid just $1 per day for being in that Hell-On-Earth.

One of the many references which thoroughly discredit Congressman Honda's defamatory resolution is "MAGIC: The Untold Story of U.S. Intelligence And The Evacuation of Japanese Residents From The West Coast During World War II."

The author is the late David Lowman, former special assistant to the director, National Security Agency.

Dr. McGrath also notes that the American Japanese Claims Act of 1948 led to the provision of $35 million paid on thousands of Japanese-Americans claims for lost or damaged homes, or even crop loss, as a result of their being called away from their homes during a national emergency -- just as so many millions of American men were called away from their homes to serve in our armed forces where half a million of them were killed fighting our national enemies.

McGrath concluded his article with a notation I hope the U.S. Senate will use in seeking to set aside and properly expose Congressman Honda's defamatory and history-distorting Day of Remembrance resolution:

If I were a loyal American of Japanese descent, I would not have been pleased with the evacuation order. Nor would I have been thrilled with having to uproot myself from my home on the Pacific Coast. However, as an emergency wartime sacrifice, it is hardly the greatest.

Just ask those Marines who regard February 19 as their Day of Remembrance. On that date in 1945 they stormed ashore on Iwo Jima, where more than 6,000 of them died. That's a sacrifice to remember -- and honor.



Les Kinsolving hosts a daily talk show for WCBM in Baltimore. His radio commentaries are syndicated nationally. He is White House correspondent for Talk Radio Network and WorldNetDaily. His show can be heard on the Internet at www.wcbm.com 8-10 p.m. Eastern each weekday. Before going into broadcasting, Kinsolving was a newspaper reporter and columnist -- twice nominated for the Pulitzer Prize for his commentary.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; Japan; News/Current Events; US: Alaska; US: California; US: Hawaii; US: Oregon; US: Washington; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fdr; fifthcolumn; internment; japanese; kinsolving; michaelhonda; wot; ww2; wwii
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To: risk
Well if after Beruit, Cole, WTC (first strike) etc, etc, we had interned all non-citizen mudslimes, 9/11 would not have occured.

Islime is a Trojan horse in our country. Ignore it if you wish but lets face it the government violates our rights everyday if you fly or go to a court house. If they are going to do it at lease focus on the trash that is creating the problem.
81 posted on 05/20/2004 11:19:49 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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To: risk

Just remember who signed the internment order. None other than that great liberal justice, Earl Warren.


82 posted on 05/20/2004 11:21:55 AM PDT by Beckwith
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To: Travis McGee
The "concentration camps" for Japanese-Americans (west of the Mississippi but not from Hawaii) had SQUAT to do with the MAGIC code breaking. You are peddling nonsense.

Read my book, Manzanar. Learn the history of what you are misstating.

John / Billybob

83 posted on 05/20/2004 11:22:07 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: risk
It was wrong, period... People without due process were stripped of their freedom and property. As conservativeswe should never table this issue because it hurts our pride abit after all we conservatives realize the Government makes mistakes..
84 posted on 05/20/2004 11:40:55 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: cyborg
Well there were large contingents of Nazi sympathizers here on Long Island during the same time and they were never locked up.

Actually, many were. Italians too. Check it out.

85 posted on 05/20/2004 11:49:00 AM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Historical notes

The fear of a "Japanese-Negro" fifth column were an interesting sidelight too.

86 posted on 05/20/2004 11:56:19 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: risk

Where does Kinsolving get his 17,000 number from? The government generally claims about 120,000.


87 posted on 05/20/2004 12:04:14 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: sargon
How could anyone endorse such statist, anti-individual, hysterical Tyranny?

Good post. I especially like the above question.

88 posted on 05/20/2004 12:32:14 PM PDT by k2blader (Anything that claims to come from God but can't be confirmed in Scripture, hasn't.)
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To: cyborg
I find the hypocrisy of some amazing with regard to locking up Americans based upon their ethnicity esp. those that espouse gun rights, property rights,etc.

Ditto that.

Hopefully these folks are in the tiny minority on the conservative side. I don't want to be affiliated with such crap.

89 posted on 05/20/2004 12:33:23 PM PDT by k2blader (Anything that claims to come from God but can't be confirmed in Scripture, hasn't.)
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To: Chip the Cat
Why are you using a racial epithet? You've already made your point and stated your opinion.

Japs is a racial epithet just as Brits is a racial epithet. Right?

90 posted on 05/20/2004 12:52:41 PM PDT by usadave
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To: Congressman Billybob

Son of a gun,I read your book.

My daughter in law is a sansei from Hawaii and I did lots of reading on the subject in the mid nineties.Her father was 15 when the war broke out,her mother a bit younger.

The wedding in Hawaii was one of my nicest memories.


91 posted on 05/20/2004 3:39:20 PM PDT by Mears
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To: cyborg

Even Hoover was against the "relocation/internment." That should tell ya something.


92 posted on 05/20/2004 4:00:25 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Islam!!)
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To: Condor51; Congressman Billybob
A history professor named Stephen Fox wrote two "oral histories" on the Italian-American and German-American experiences during WWII.

The National Park Service does a decent job with the story here. They do get to the Germans and Italians despite the title.

93 posted on 05/20/2004 4:56:48 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Skywalk

yep


94 posted on 05/20/2004 5:50:54 PM PDT by cyborg (tit for tat butter for fat hillary is ugly that's a fact)
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To: risk

The other dirty little secret is although only the Japanese got reparations, the caucasions in German internment camps in the United States did not.

Yes, there were German internment camps.


95 posted on 05/20/2004 6:33:05 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (What do they call children in Palestine? Unexploded ordinance)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Where does Kinsolving get his 17,000 number from? The government generally claims about 120,000.

Yes, 17,000 must be bogus. He whitewashes the price of the camps to make his point.

96 posted on 05/20/2004 7:31:29 PM PDT by risk
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To: N3WBI3
It was wrong, period... People without due process were stripped of their freedom and property. As conservatives we should never table this issue because it hurts our pride a bit after all we conservatives realize the Government makes mistakes

In one way I agree with you: it's always worth checking our consciences on a regular basis. But I remain critical of those who would "redo" history because we violated contemporary values. I maintain that war is hell, and our first duty is to win it. We can demonstrate how humane we are when a knife isn't at our throats.

97 posted on 05/20/2004 7:34:56 PM PDT by risk
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To: risk

I am not saying that history should be rewritten, but it should be noted that the US violated its own constitution..


98 posted on 05/20/2004 7:44:58 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3

And you're right, of course.


99 posted on 05/20/2004 7:51:10 PM PDT by risk
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To: Congressman Billybob; Travis McGee
Roosevelt was wrong to issue his Order.

On February 19 1942, the day Executive Order 9066 was signed, were we so sure we would win WWII? We weren't.

Within weeks, our boys would marching with death at bayonet point on Bataan. Where was the sympathy then? Where was the conscience, the remorse, the concern about constitutionality?

We did what we had to win.


POWs resting, some before death, during the Bataan Death March

Yet you're saying that we should have been willing to take risks that could have led to our earlier defeat. I'll grant you that the damages we did to our ethnic unity and our reputations were great. But we won.

Why did we win? Because we did whatever it took. Is the pain great, still? Yes, it is. But I'm not going to apologize for what our forebears did in the heat of battle, here or on the front lines. I'll not second guess the greatest generation for the price they paid to preserve this republic.

I'm sure you have good reasons to take your position, but I won't agree.

A more interesting pair of questions to ask are:

  1. Is the anti-American propaganda we are absorbing now a direct result of the less scrupulous means we used to win WWII?
  2. Could we have won WWII without ever violating our own moral principles?
The answer that keeps coming to my mind leaves me with bitter apprehension. I know what our present day enemies would tell us.

I also know that I support what Americans did to win then. Anything less would be to disrespect those who died, eyes ripped from their skulls, legs and bowels splattered across beaches from Hawaii to Iwo Jima, not knowing how the war ended. They fought on island after island, giving up all hope of return, any remnant of contact with their families back home. And their enemy was every bit as determined to enslave us. And I can tell you, as well you should know, that the Japanese had no remorse for the horrific way they treated our POWs. Did you know that many of them were beaten daily, and most were starved to within an inch of their lives?

We won. We're alive and free today. That should be enough for us. I look at Japanese Americans today who survived American concentration camps as victims of WWII, not as victims of American injustice. We didn't start that war. We didn't ask for it. But we did what we had to do to win.

100 posted on 05/20/2004 8:58:40 PM PDT by risk
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