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Did the Arab "Street" Geta Message We Didn't Mean to Send?
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| 5/7/04
| LS
Posted on 05/07/2004 6:31:42 PM PDT by LS
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:31:43 PM PDT
by
LS
To: LS
Very interesting take!! You may be on to something... hmmm...
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:33:48 PM PDT
by
Eala
(Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
To: LS
Uday and Qusay are ed-day.
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:34:11 PM PDT
by
annyokie
(There are two sides to every argument, but I'm too busy to listen to yours.)
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"For your ping list" ping...
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:35:58 PM PDT
by
Eala
(Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
To: LS
I think your point has merit. Time and events will prove your point one way or the other.
One thing I've learned is that what appears to be a major problem ends up not being one.
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:36:34 PM PDT
by
Loyal Buckeye
((Kerry is a flake))
To: LS
What makes you think it is necessarily unintended? Even if the whole thing wasn't planned, we do have people whose sole job is to look for, and exploit, situations like this.
Comment #7 Removed by Moderator
To: LS
It's like judo. You turn your weaknesses into strength. The scandal is a weakness, and we turn it into a strength. Right now, every would-be terrorist is going to have horrible nightmares of sexual torture before they light off their next bomb.
That said, this sexual torture crap is too risky and dangerous to rely on as policy. That's why the people responsible need to have their asses nailed to the wall, no matter what. That's also why it's right to apologize and to put into place policies to make sure this never happens again. Getting gays out of the military is a good start. The next step is to reassign women out of combat roles, and not reassign new women into them.
To: LS
Or the quiet in Falujah could be because we put Iraqis back in charge and the quiet in Najaf could be because the tribes and the Shiite elders demanded Sadr get out? Just want to present an alternate universe here!
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:39:24 PM PDT
by
Arkie2
To: LS
I agree with you. I hope that this will work in our favor in the end. What I worry about now is that this hearing today will turn into the Church commission (don't think there won't be a commission out of this) and that there will be handcuffs put on our military and investigative forces like they did to the CIA....make them impotent to be able to conduct the business of interrogating prisoners and getting the needed info to protect our troops during war. I hope I am wrong. But I have this sinking feeling we may never ever be able to wage war and win with the partisanship we have in this country and in the media. Pray I am wrong.
To: LS
Good post and something to ponder.
To: LS
Excellent point. Also note this: the prisoners chose to submit to this humiliation. They could have defied us and chosen their 72 virgins. How strong is their faith? I believe that the Japanese were much more devoted to their faith than the Islamics. God willing, I do not expect to see as many suicide bombers as there were kamakazis back during WWII. Right or wrong, some of the guards called their bluff, and we can learn from that.
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:40:19 PM PDT
by
Arthur Wildfire! March
(Backhoe's Gorelick links: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117579/posts)
To: LS
What great insight into this!!
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:41:30 PM PDT
by
feedback doctor
(Freedom, God's gift to man, Clinton the devil's gift)
To: LS
The apologies were strictly for North American and European consumption.
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:41:32 PM PDT
by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: arbee4bush
"What I worry about now is that this hearing today will turn into the Church commission..."
There will be that attempt. It will be a battle royale. A political food fight, and in the end, I believe those who place America first will win out, God willing.
FReegards....
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:43:13 PM PDT
by
Arthur Wildfire! March
(Backhoe's Gorelick links: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117579/posts)
To: LS
You know? You may be on to something. We know we're dealing with cowards. Perhaps alSadr crapped his kaftan when he saw those photos and pictured himself naked... barking like a dog with a chain on his neck... at the end of a leash held by a 90 pound woman sucking on a Pall Mall.
Hmmmm... there could be something there. Thought-provoking.
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:43:45 PM PDT
by
get'emall
(Kofi Annan: The Lawn Jockey at the Intersection of Corruption and Lies)
To: rogueleader
every would-be terrorist is going to have horrible nightmares of sexual torture Sexual torture? I don't know, but it seems possible that that nightmare ends with end of the torture. This is sexual humiliation -- and in that culture maybe more than elsewhere, that is forever. (At least until you respond to one of those spam e-mails... *\;-)
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:43:53 PM PDT
by
Eala
(Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
Comment #18 Removed by Moderator
To: LS
These images would not have gotten the same amount of attention had we (the West) not made a big stink about them.
I venture to suggest that the current inmates of Abu Gharaib are the best treated in the history of the prison.
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:44:37 PM PDT
by
Bosco
(Remember how you felt on September 11?)
To: LS
Ms England might really be a heroine? You never know. Events often play out in unusual ways.
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:45:28 PM PDT
by
tertiary01
(DEMS- the other surrender monkeys.)
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