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Did the Arab "Street" Geta Message We Didn't Mean to Send?
self | 5/7/04 | LS

Posted on 05/07/2004 6:31:42 PM PDT by LS

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To: LS
You sir... are very perceptive.
61 posted on 05/07/2004 7:22:09 PM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi... Saddam)
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To: 11th_VA
"(Just joking - but we should have a policy of burying suicide bombers in latrines covered in pig guts - that might send a message.)"

You know, we've been joking about the pork stuff for a long time; however, in all seriousness, I seem to recall this actually being done at one time. If memory serves it was in the late 1800's and the guy who did it was a British officer. It ended the insurrection like right now. Anyone recall this? Or is it an urban legend? SOMEONE should go over to Snopes and check it out.

Pinging SOMEONE!

62 posted on 05/07/2004 7:23:06 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: LS
Every cloud has a silver lining, maybe his right and this is the silver lining. Could very well be. I know for a fact American women are not to be messed with.
63 posted on 05/07/2004 7:29:08 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: LS
Hey, you Mind Reader.... you ESP specialist, you Psychic! Check out


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1131681/posts

Speaking through a translator, Abd explained that as an Arab, perhaps the most degrading aspect of the abuse was the sexual humiliation. During one session of abuse, he and six other prisoners who had been involved in a fight were stripped naked, forced to straddle each other's backs and then made to simulate oral sex.

Abd said he recalled having his hood removed and being told by the soldiers' Arabic translator to masturbate as he looked at England. "She was laughing and she put her hands on her breasts," he told the newspaper.

"Of course I couldn't do it, so they beat me in the stomach and I fell to the ground. The translator said, 'Do it, do it. It's better than being beaten'. I said, 'How can I do it?' So I put my hand on my penis, just pretending."
64 posted on 05/07/2004 7:30:29 PM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Mike Fieschko
Interesting read on the snopes page - i think we need to flush this one out on talk radio - I've been seeing this story over and over the last month. Would like to know what the Muslim take on this might be.
65 posted on 05/07/2004 7:30:39 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Freedom is not free)
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To: fhayek
Upon reflection, you are correct and I stand corrected. It was Lee. Didn't Sherman say something similar in between cocktails? Oh, wait. I guess that was Grant. And what about Bedford Forrest? If that guy been deployed to Iraq we would have been out of there a year ago.

And with regard to your mention of Hiroshima; now wasn't that abuse! And Dresden and Hamburg. Can you imagine the howling which would have come from the left side of the aisle?

It's a good thing our current culture wasn't the norm during WWII. If it had been we'd all be drinking German beer and driving Japanese cars....

66 posted on 05/07/2004 7:34:05 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: 11th_VA
If you put your ear to the Arab street and hear any complaints about that woman smoking in the photos, please call Mayor Bloomberg.
67 posted on 05/07/2004 7:35:14 PM PDT by get'emall (Kofi Annan: The Lawn Jockey at the Intersection of Corruption and Lies)
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To: Mike Fieschko
The British used it also during the Sepoy Mutiny.
68 posted on 05/07/2004 7:35:44 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: yooper
That person died and not one Arab or Muslim leader was asked to apologize, nor did any apologize


We don't ask for apologies, they may try before they die at the hands of our soldiers, but what they've done to our people is unforgivable by man.They can only be forgiven by God
69 posted on 05/07/2004 7:35:59 PM PDT by Damagro (Free Sirhan! (and put him on work release in Hyanisport))
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To: LS
Your take is dead on. I am warming up to this scandal. It's still horrible and I wish it had never happened, and I want to see the perps prosecuted. But I'm not as afraid of blowback as I was a week ago.

It was curious when the released prisoner gave his exit interview, where he had been tortured by Saddam and humiliated by a female American GI, and he much preferred the torture.

Sounds like a pretty good deterrent to me. Threaten to kill, maim or torture an Islamo-Fascist and they don't care. Threaten to subject them to 5 minutes with an amateur dominatrix, and they all of a sudden think of better things to do than mess with the Americans.

The Arab world is filled with professional complainers, that make Jesse Jackson look like a piker. But we can co-exist so long as we don't have to take them seriously. On September 12, 2001 we had to take them seriously. As time passes, the vaunted Arab street is looking more and more irrelevant.
70 posted on 05/07/2004 7:38:18 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: LS
I thought of that. It actually crossed my mind that these images were released on purpose to put the fear of Allah in to the terrorist scum. Who knows?

Time will tell if it has this effect or no.
71 posted on 05/07/2004 7:38:22 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: CWOJackson
Now we could leave the leashing of Arafat to Albright --- in her fishnet hose and spike heeled shoes.
72 posted on 05/07/2004 7:38:25 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: 11th_VA
I still wish there were a few buckets of pig guts poured over the naked frat boys


No sense wasting perfectly good chitlins on this scum. Effluence from the waste pond of a hog farm will work just as well and solve two problems at once
73 posted on 05/07/2004 7:40:10 PM PDT by Damagro (Free Sirhan! (and put him on work release in Hyanisport))
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To: get'emall
I have a feeling she's going to join the WWF - and make a mega million !!!
74 posted on 05/07/2004 7:41:58 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Freedom is not free)
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To: 11th_VA
Her and Tonya Harding - cat fight, Jerry!
75 posted on 05/07/2004 7:43:32 PM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
Threaten to subject them to 5 minutes with an amateur dominatrix

I guess that leaves out Janet Reno.

76 posted on 05/07/2004 7:43:50 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: CWOJackson
LOL That almost made me puke
77 posted on 05/07/2004 7:45:58 PM PDT by Damagro (Free Sirhan! (and put him on work release in Hyanisport))
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To: bwteim
Her and Tonya Harding - cat fight, Jerry!

ROFLOL !!! - yep (I'm series - I think its gonna happen)

78 posted on 05/07/2004 7:46:08 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Freedom is not free)
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To: LS
LS, I'm with you all the way on this. I've said similar things on other threads.

I distinctly remember an article about young Islamo-Whackos in Egypt right after the fall of Baghdad. The reporter went looking for angry men who would be willing to take up Jihad. What he found instead was a group of depressed losers who said that they way that Baghdad Bob mislead them, and the way that Saddam rolled over, was a humilation that they were not sure that they could recover from. Most of the Arab Radicals, first and foremost, have an inferiority complex. Their days of glory are 5000 years in the past, and they know it. Now, the boot up their ass and on their neck is being worn by five-foot tall American Women.

That's why I believe that you won't be seeing many street protests in the Arab World over this one. For obvious reasons, the last thing they want to show their own women is that picture of an Iraqi man on the end of a leash.
79 posted on 05/07/2004 7:47:28 PM PDT by bootyist-monk (<--------------------- Republican Attack Machine)
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To: rogueleader
"It's like judo. You turn your weaknesses into strength. The scandal is a weakness, and we turn it into a strength. Right now, every would-be terrorist is going to have horrible nightmares of sexual torture before they light off their next bomb."

Exactly. Conversely, it turns the enemy's greatest strength, the fifth column media, against him. Thanks to disloyal terror-apologist media and their uncontrollable lust to incite the killing of Americans, every Muslim on the planet has seen these pictures, had them crammed down their throats in fact. Lynndie and the other deviates did not humiliate a few, they humiliated a billion. In their culture, humiliation is submission. I don't like where that goes, but it may be worth something.

80 posted on 05/07/2004 7:50:14 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (A few words for the media: Julius Streicher, follow his path, share his fate.)
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