[Howlin]

11:45 a.m. EDT

[TomGuy]

1st to the microphone:



[Now, tell me again that she isn't running in November.]

[Alissa]

Here's the link to who is on the House's Armed Services Committee: Click Here

[TomGuy]

CSpan 1 is carrying Rumsfeld in the House Armed Services Committee meeting live now.

[Rainmist]

I can understand the soldiers' hatred for what some Iraqis have done to our men, I can totally understand that. But the people who have killed and mutilated and burned and hung are barbarians. We, as Americans and the military, cannot stoop to that level. That is what separates us from the evil that exists over there. My father was a retired Major in the Army, and he would consider the mistreatment of those prisoners unacceptable no matter what. A few bad apples should not spoil the whole bunch.

[White Mountain]

Much has been said in the Senate committee hearing today about the threat to America's values and moral high ground, which is of paramount importance to our credibility as we take action in the War on Terror.

Perhaps now is the time when more people will see that interpreting our First Amendment to protect pornographers by ignoring the word "speech" and reading into it instead the word "expression" has far-reaching consequences.

In a day when vile stuff is just a mouse-click away on the Internet, and our children need to be shielded from a large percentage of what is broadcast into our homes, which can be tuned into unless blocked (or responsible parents chain themselves to all TV sets), I ask: were those reservists influenced in their growing-up years by the "popular culture" to think that this sort of thing is just harmless fun, as evidenced by the smiles on their faces as they posed with the prisoners for those photos?

The fact that many of our judges strike down attempts to rein in pornographers, and similar low standards in the popular media, weakens our credibility around the world.

It makes our soldiers' efforts to win hearts and minds much tougher, and the efforts of the America-bashers much easier.

We must hold ourselves to a higher standard.

[TomGuy]

I'm also listening to Hannity on his radio program. His talking about not talking too much about his book. lol

[veronica]

What a pile of horse-pucky.

[MJM59]

I am sorry for the fact that the United States current administration lacks the cajones to properly fight a war. In fact, I believe that this country has not displayed proper warfighting since the end of WWII.

We won that war by defeating our enenies totally. Their surrender was unconditional. We did this by not only defeating them militarily, we overwhelmed them to the point that they lost the will to fight and resist.

Since that time, we have fought war in politically correct terms and have yet to actually win a war. And before you go and start bringing up the first Gulf War. Let me say that if that war was a such a great victory, why are we fighting there again? The reason? We did not finish the damned job the first time. And we still haven't finished the job. Instead of going in and defeating the enemy we are trying to win hearts and minds. What a crock! I hate to think what would have happened if we tried to win the hearts and minds of the Germans and the Japanese.

Im WWII, we firebombed the Germans into submission and we dropped nuclear bombs on Japan not once but twice. But now, we are made squeamish by photographs of Iraqi prisoners. Sure, if we had killed these prisoners before the fact in a firefight, that would not have raised an eyebrow. But take compromising picture of them and you stir up the greatest controversy known to man!

What was done to these prisoners was unfortunate. But, it was not un-American or something to have to apologize for. America is not a utopia, we are not a perfect people. This type of activity happens within our own borders. Cheerleaders rubbing human feces onto other girls. High School football initiations gone over the edge. Cops accused of using a broomstick on a prisoner. Just like the rest of America, the military is not perfect. The same type of people that do these kinds of things in the civilian sector are also in the military. The point is that they are in the very lowest minority. The good thing about it being American is that in America, we do not hide these things in the shadows. We air our dirty laundry in front of the world and we clean up our own mess when it is over.

What we need to do now is STOP APOLOGIZING and get back to winning this war. We need to stop playing pattycake with the Iraqis and defeat them once and for all.

[commish]

Just talked about murders in the House Hearing. Said that one has been judges "justifiable homicide", two have been labeled Homicides, 12 have been ruled "natural Causes" and 10 additional deaths are under investigation.

[PISANO]

Here it is: Equating the Prison degradation with My Lai!! Absolutely stunning!!

[PISANO]

Here it is: Equating the Prison degradation with My Lai!! Absolutely stunning!!

[leprechaun9]

Rumsfeld should remind the Whale from Taxachusetts that the Iraq prisoners receive infinitely more humane treatment than old Teddie showed Mary Jo Kopchene!

[PISANO]

As the ranking member just stated this is a NIGHTMARE of enourmous proportions with mortal consequences and a damage to our military that will take years to overcome!!

That being said, THANK YOU CBS, our beloved LEFTIST news organisation, thank you for your contribution to our NATION'S WAR on TERRORISM, by publishing photos that were SECRET EVIDENCE for a military court-martial they have fullfilled their wildest dreams to hurt the military and this country as much as possible.

WELL DONE CBS!! Now go get the videos quick!!

[jetson]

TIME TO THROW A LITTLE PARTY FOR SOME TRAITOROUS SENATOR AND CONGRESSMEN

[BriarBey]

AAAUUGGHH I can't believe it....sat on hold for almost 2 hrs. finally pushed the one to leave a message or comment and they said their office closed at 5:00 it is now.....5:48!!! Any of you other freepers holding...get off the phone no one is there!! I need a drink...better yet I'm going to eat choc. ice-cream!!

[TomGuy]

Rumsfeld almost lost it and told that last questioner were to go.

hehehe

But the SecDef caught himself, calmed himself, drew in his fangs, and passed on maiming the SOB.

[PISANO]

Wow! Cunningham......says I would follow you thru hell, Mr. Secretary and so would the entire Armed Forces. He also slammed the CBC. Rightfully so......

[TomGuy]

Mr. Secretary, thank you for your service. We appreciate it.

[TomGuy]

He wants to get in his SUV and leave, but he is answering questions, anyway.

[freeangel]

All I can think about how the arab world is laughing while watching this charade saying " Can you imagine how they are trying to crucify this guy? There would be no prisoners to tell tales if it were us, they would have been sliced, diced, burned and buried by now."