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Arabs Say Bush Interviews Are Too Little Too Late
Reuters ^ | 5/6/2004 | Jonathan Wright

Posted on 05/06/2004 8:45:18 AM PDT by absalom01


Arabs Say Bush Interviews Are Too Little Too Late

By Jonathan Wright

CAIRO (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites) did too little too late when he told two Arabic-language television stations that he condemned the mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners, Arab commentators and pundits said on Thursday.

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While the White House portrayed the interviews with al-Hurra and Al Arabiya on Wednesday as a special effort to address Arab public opinion, the commentators said Arabs saw Bush on television often and were unlikely to change their minds about him on the basis of a single appearance.

Some said that Bush was more worried about looking good to Americans in advance of presidential elections in November than in improving relations with the Arab world, which would require painful changes in U.S. policy toward Iraq (news - web sites) and Israel.

U.S. government-financed channel Alhurra, which appears to be little watched in the Arab world, ran its interview with Bush without a translation into Arabic, much reducing the impact.

In the interview with Dubai-based Al Arabiya, which is much more popular, Bush said the abuse of Iraqi prisoners was abhorrent and justice would be done after a full investigation.

But he did not apologize for the abuses or suggest any second thoughts about the policies which Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak (news - web sites) says have helped make the United States more hated than ever in the Middle East.

"It's not enough for the American president to punish the troops who committed the odious practices and it's not enough that the national security adviser (Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites)) apologizes," commentator Ghassan Sharbal wrote in the London-based pan-Arab newspaper al-Hayat.

Egyptian columnist Ahmed el-Birri wrote in Egypt's al-Ahram:

"It's not enough for Bush to be indignant... What they need to do is take an immediate decision to withdraw their forces from Iraq, confess the terrible injustice they have done to Iraq and apologize in public for what their troops have done.

"In the end we say to them (Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites)): 'Enough of your illusions. The time of empires has passed and will never return'."

Bush's reputation in the Arab world had already suffered badly this year from his concessions to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (news - web sites) and Washington's refusal to condemn Israel's assassination of two leaders of the Palestinian group Hamas.

ISRAEL, OIL AND MUSLIMS

When the scandal broke over photographs of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad, the pictures reinforced Arab skepticism about Bush's argument that the aim of invading Iraq was to end human rights abuses and bring about a new era of freedom and democracy for Iraqis.

They suspect the motives were to protect Israel, seize control of Iraq's oil, build an American empire in the Middle East or simply to wage war on Muslims.

"American credibility has been hurt and people in the region tend not to believe what American officials are saying," said Gamal Sultan, a researcher at the Al-Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies, a Cairo think-tank.

Waleed Tabtabai, an Islamist member of the Kuwait parliament, said that when he first saw the pictures of abused Iraqi prisoners: "I felt that the Americans....are not really there to spread democracy and freedom but to impose the imperialist project of the American Empire."

"If Bush is really sincere that the torturing of the Iraqis does not represent American values then he should couple his talk with deeds. He should uncover what is going on inside Guantanamo (the U.S. detention center in Cuba)," he added.

The United States should allow family visits to the hundreds of Muslim detainees at Guantanamo, some of whom have spent over two years in custody without trial, and allow an independent investigation of detention conditions, he said.

The Arab commentators said that the abuses stemmed from what most Arabs consider the illegal occupation of Iraq by the United States and its allies and that this must end.

"No matter how hard Bush pledges to punish those responsible, there will be no guarantee these barbaric acts will stop as long as the sovereignty of the people of Iraq is violated by foreign occupation," said the Qatar paper al-Watan.

Abdel-Moneim Said, the director of the Al-Ahram Center, said that serious punishment of the offending U.S. troops could repair some of the damage but Bush did not seem to understand that people do not like to live under occupation.

"In all history we know there was outrageous torture and misuse of power that took place from all occupying forces in the world... President Bush should know there is nothing called nice occupation. Occupation is always ugly," he said.




TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: abughraib; alarabiya; iraq; iraqipow
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Gosh, the Arabic media say that the president's promise to identify, and punish those responsible "isn't enough". I'm shocked, shocked! to hear this.
1 posted on 05/06/2004 8:45:19 AM PDT by absalom01
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To: absalom01
You mean the "Arab gutter" - redundant, I know - wasn't appeased?

Shocking

2 posted on 05/06/2004 8:47:36 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: absalom01
Oh No! The VAUNTED ARAB STREET doesn't like us.....wwwhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3 posted on 05/06/2004 8:47:43 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Islam: Nothing BEER couldn't cure.)
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To: absalom01
Where is the Arab apology for all of their "abussive" acts? Ef'em. Better yet, turn their little sand castle into a glass bagel.

Ef'em.
4 posted on 05/06/2004 8:48:37 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: gathersnomoss
"glass bagel"

That's PERFECT! hahaha...
5 posted on 05/06/2004 8:49:29 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Frank_Discussion
Wait: TOASTED Glass Bagel!
6 posted on 05/06/2004 8:50:01 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: absalom01
That's not what I heard on Fox News this morning from the Arab media.......they reported that it was well received!
7 posted on 05/06/2004 8:50:33 AM PDT by mtnwmn
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To: absalom01
I'm shocked, shocked! to hear this.

Arabs. Everything they do is ok, like stringing up burnt corpses on a bridge and cheering in public and later not bothering to appologize. But everything we do, like spending billions in reconstruction, losing our young soldiers' lives while protecting them and appologizing where we do wrong, is just not good enough.

Ungrateful brats.

8 posted on 05/06/2004 8:50:37 AM PDT by rudypoot
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To: absalom01
Anyone have those photos showing the Iraqis cutting their children with swords and walking around covered in blood? I want to see what real child abuse is.
9 posted on 05/06/2004 8:50:53 AM PDT by snooker
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To: absalom01
Say what??

I'm still waiting for the expressions of regret and apology from sand maggot leaders anywhere for the Mass Murder of almost 3000 of my fellow citizens, without the qualifier...
But Israel blah blah blah

10 posted on 05/06/2004 8:51:39 AM PDT by Publius6961 (.)
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To: absalom01
First they are screaming about an apology. When it comes, and very sincerely given, they blast him anyway! WOW! He might as well have saved his breath.
11 posted on 05/06/2004 8:52:14 AM PDT by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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To: absalom01
What is too little too late is not to have rolled over the whole mideast right after 9/11. The terrorist islamic environment nedds to be totally destroyed.
12 posted on 05/06/2004 8:52:20 AM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: absalom01
That's it....I am all done trying to understand these morons. I am back to the premise that I had during the evening of 911....."Kill them all and let God sort it out"!

We should turn that entire area into glass! I would rather we all had to go back to horses than get along with these mistakes of Nature.....!
13 posted on 05/06/2004 8:52:23 AM PDT by Gator113
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To: absalom01
You'll get what we give you and you'll like it.

Damned moon-worshipping suicidal heathens.
14 posted on 05/06/2004 8:52:31 AM PDT by Redcoat LI ("help to drive the left one into the insanity.")
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To: absalom01
We're damned if we do, damned if we don't. Quite honestly, I no longer care what the "arab street" think, nor should any one else here in the West. The first step to curing liberalism (a disease) is to stop worrying about what anti Western forces, "disadvantaged" political action groups and all other ultimately inimical forces think. No matter what they "think" they hate us and want to see us gone. It's really that simple.
15 posted on 05/06/2004 8:53:05 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: absalom01
I just love headlines purporting to tell us what "Arabs" think or don't think.

"Arabs Say Bush Interviews Are Too Little Too Late". ALL ARABS, apparently. There are NO Arabs who think anything else.

That's what Reuters wants us to think. Right?

.... then of course you read the article, and they interviewed, like, three guys.

It happens again and again. I'm damn sick of it.

16 posted on 05/06/2004 8:54:08 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: absalom01
This is why you don't bother apologizing to people who will hate you no matter what you do.

This is why you give no quarter to the enemy, their supporters, or those who aid and comfort them from within our own shores.

17 posted on 05/06/2004 8:55:46 AM PDT by ez (...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.)
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To: Shery
I am beginning to wonder. Looks more and more like the neo-cons' premise that we could democratize people who had not experienced democracy, may have holes in it.

You know, if you were in someone's home at a cocktail party, and the host approached you in a low, hushed voiced and said "Say, I really don't like having you here", what kind of fool would stay around any longer?

18 posted on 05/06/2004 8:56:25 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (As an overseas Yank, in all my years, I've NEVER seen such disdain toward Americans & the USA.)
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To: absalom01
Why in th' hell are we apologizing to these people? Compared to what Iran and Iraq did to each other in their war, we are boy scouts. Their hatred for us is not amenable to discussion, apologies or diplomacy. That's why we're in a shooting war.
19 posted on 05/06/2004 8:56:38 AM PDT by Spok (They call me old Hugh, but I doubt I'm 80.)
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I wonder what this is called by the sensitive Arab street?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1089503/posts
20 posted on 05/06/2004 8:56:55 AM PDT by snooker
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