Posted on 05/05/2004 11:10:33 AM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo
SEATTLE, MAY 3 – Recent California voters overwhelmingly support teaching the scientific evidence both for and against Darwin’s theory of evolution, according to two new surveys conducted by Arnold Steinberg & Associates. The surveys address the issue of how best to teach evolution, which increasingly is under deliberation by state and local school districts in California and around the nation.
The first survey was a random sample of 551 California voters living in a household in which at least one voter voted in the November 2002 general election and the October 2003 special election for governor. When asked: “Which statement is closest to your view about what biology teachers in public schools should teach about Darwin’s theory of evolution,” 73.5 percent replied, “Teach the scientific evidence for and against it,” while only 16.5 percent answered, “Teach only the scientific evidence for it.” (7.9 percent were either “Unsure” or gave another response.)
The second survey was a random sample of 605 California voters living in a household in which the first voter in the household was under 50, and in which at least one voter voted in the November 2002 general election and the October 2003 special election for governor. When asked: “Which statement is closest to your view about what biology teachers in public schools should teach about Darwin’s theory of evolution,” 79.3 percent replied, “Teach the scientific evidence for and against it,” while only 14.7 percent answered, “Teach only the scientific evidence for it.” (6 percent were either “Unsure” or gave another response.)
“Although recent voters in California as a whole overwhelmingly favor teaching both sides of the scientific evidence about evolution, those under 50 are even more supportive of this approach,” said Bruce Chapman, president of Discovery Institute. “These California survey results are similar to those of states like Ohio and Texas, as well as a national survey undertaken in 2001. The preferences of the majority of Californians are also in line with the recommendations of Congress in the report of the No Child Left Behind Act regarding teaching biological evolution and a recent policy letter from the U.S. Department of Education that expressed support for Academic freedom and scientific inquiry on such matters such as these.”
The margin of error for each survey was +/- 4 percent. Both surveys were conducted by Arnold Steinberg & Associates, a California-based polling firm, and released by Discovery Institute, a national public policy organization headquartered in Seattle, Wa. whose Center for Science and Culture has issued a statement from 300 scientists who are skeptical of the central claim of neo-Darwinian evolution.
“The only way the Darwin-only lobby can spin these kind of survey results,” added Chapman, “is to claim that the public is just ignorant. But that view is untenable in light of the more than 300 scientists who have publicly expressed their dissent from Darwinism, to say nothing of the many scientific articles that have been published critiquing the theory.”
I think we will all be surprised when God reveals all of efforts to get men to recognize Him and all of the evidence that was available if only man would choose to open his eyes.
Pride. You claim to know what is in the hearts and minds of those who believe differently than you... and you have chosen to believe that they believe differently than you because they are morally inferior to you. You choose to believe that those who believe differetnly than you do so because they are evil.
Jesus said those words in blue. I do not believe that non-Christians are morally inferior to me, for I know without a doubt that I am morally inferior. The only difference is that I've taken up God on his offer of a pardon. That's not much of a difference. I would that all men would take God up on his offer, and I don't understand why they do not. But Jesus pretty clearly said that the choice is theirs to make.
That's PRIDE, bucko. God's got a special corner in Hell for such prideful Christians. Christianity has no worse enemy than people such as yourself.
There is no corner in Hell for Christians, not true Christians. Heaven isn't reserved for people with works but for those whom Jesus knew. Hell isn't reserved for people without works but for those whom Jesus never knew. It's the relationship that's key.
Math 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Well, only God and you know whether you are "willingly" ignorant. I'm not the one who will judge you on the matter.
Appeals to supernatural punishment do not change the facts of the situation: the universe, from the grandest of scales to the smallest, exhibits the nature of something that has evolved.
You mistake an appeal for a warning. I have no desire to see such punishment carried out. If I did desire such, I'd simply leave this discussion. I agree neither appeal nor warning changes the "facts of the situation". But I see the "facts" much differently than you do. If you are "willingly" fooling yourself, then it's time to reexamine the facts.
Don't let Satan manipulate you into believing evolution, simply because Satan was able to manipulate some creationist morons, (and I agree with you that they were morons) harden your position and prejudice you to the facts.
You are in the middle of a war for your mind and soul. I plead with you to carefully reexamine those "facts".
I don't know but it does seem self-evident. But I think we should add Danny's Precursor to Lowther's Law, as well as Danny's Exceptions to Lowther's Law.
"Most debates on evolution vs. creationism will, sooner or later, produce the claim by the evolutionist side that God cannot be known or is not known, thereupon resulting in Lowther's Law" - Danny's Precursor to Lowther's Law
"Any debate on evolution vs. creationism will, sooner or later, produce the claim by the creationist side that the evolutionist is doomed to Hell." - Lowther's Law
"It should be noted that the creationist side acknowledges two exceptions to Lowther's law.
Burning at the stake was witchcraft wasn't it. I don't remember what the Roman Catholics did to those they considered heretics but I agree it wasn't pretty regardless. But both of those predated Darwin.
Are there really any examples of Christians persecuting evolutionists except by harsh words? Oh and Orion's unfortunate High School experience, which on the behalf of all Christians I hereby apologize for and acknowledge as being the wrong way to handle that.
I'm not following your logic here. I mean, yes, I know that the skoffers are "willfully" ignorant. But I know that because the Bible says so. I have no proof other than that. Therefore it's hearsay. Extremely reliable hearsay. And yes, based on that I've judged your comments and reached the conclusion you fit the definition of the skoffer there, but I'm not going to JUDGE you in the sense of a court of law or me handing down any punishment. Not my job. Don't really want it. My job is to warn, nothing more.
Satan is a devout Creationist. Only one such as Satan would tell a person to look at the universe, and then draw the dead wrong conclusions from the vast evidence contained therein.
Well, in the final analysis, we will all know exactly why the evidence is what it is, and which were the wrong conclusions and which were the right. And what evidence was "willfully" or "unwillfully" ignored and by whom.
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"I will be merciful to whom I will be merciful."
Have you given your son to pay for the sins of the world? No. Then you are not more merciful than your Creator.
No, you would simply break the law set forth in the beginning that the penalty for sin is death. Your "mercy" comes at the cost of "truth" and "justice".
Merciful to whom? The worst that ever lived? Or the occupants of Heaven. Should the unrepentant be freed to live in Heaven?
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