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Another ‘Gay Priest’ Website Scandal?
Men's News Daily ^ | May 3, 2004 | Matt C. Abbott

Posted on 05/03/2004 8:24:12 AM PDT by presidio9

Do you remember the now-infamous St. Sebastian’s Angels website for actively homosexual clerics? (See www.rcf.org.) Well, it appears there is a “sister” site. The following item is from noted Catholic author and apologist Patrick Madrid, from the Envoy Encore blog (http://www.envoymagazine.com/EnvoyEncore/):

The cliques and networks and buddy-systems of actively homosexual Catholic priests are alive and well.

… A concerned Catholic reader sent me a link to "Venerabilis," yet another website dedicated to gay priests. Its purpose, explained in English, French, and Italian, is to allow gay priests to anonymously contact one another with an aim toward sharing information and personal stories, fellowship and mutual encouragement, and (surprise!) to facilitate face-to-face encounters.

One priest, posting under the name "Tim," wrote:

"I am a lonely 44 year old priest. I am looking to connect with any priest over 45 who is built and stocky and stronger looking. Although im settled in mycountry I wish to move again to some parish abroad in UK or in Europe where english is spoken. IM a professional and feel so contrained and suffocated in my own country which is so conservative and homophobic. I need help and if any parish priest over 45 wishes to host me and become my friend im willing to offer a lot as long as he is gay and willing to also allow me to keep on studying and we support each other. Anyway wouldl ike to make lots of friends who are priests but im mostly attracted to older stronger men."

"Arnel," a 37 year old priest in the Philippines and member of a religious order which he, wisely, doesn't name, writes:

"My discovery of the web-site comes right at a time when I am so much in need of intimacy. I have been wishing to meet another priest, from anywhere, with whom to share my thoughts, my feelings, my soul. I love religious life and ministry, but this is a point in my life when I have a need not so much for sex, although that would be fine--but more of the sense of belonging to someone, and the sense of someone belonging to me, in some strange sense. The Lord has lavished upon my life great blessings, and I still pray that I may meet a fellow priest out there who might wish to begin a deep friendship, even from across the miles, and see where it takes us."

Reading through the comments posted on this site in English, French, Spanish, and Italian is very saddening to me. I'm sad for the men who live this way, struggling with their sexual problem, furtively arranging encounters with other homosexual priests, and most poignant of all, their feeling lonely, yearning for "older, stronger" father figures. How incredibly sad. I pray that God will lead them to repentance and virtue, before it's too late.

I also feel irritation that the questing tentacles of this homosexual underground network of priests (of which this website is just a minor tendril) continue to spread. We need strong, decisive, and immediate action to guarrantee that the screening process for all seminaries, diocesan and religious, will ensure as well as is humanly possible that men who are accepted as candidates for the priesthood are not going to wind up one day looking for sex on a gay priest hook-up website like this one. Or, worse yet, wind up on the front page of the local paper.

One bishop’s decision re pro-abort pols receiving Communion

Well, not surprisingly, the controversy over whether pro-abortion “Catholic” politicians should be allowed to receive Holy Communion continues to make the news. Cardinal Francis Arinze, prefect of the Vatican Congregation for Divine Worship and the Sacraments, has said they should not. But, hey, this is the U.S. bishops we’re talking about! Rome speaks, and few seemingly listen.

Consider the latest U.S. bishop to weigh-in on this controversy – Bishop Carl Mengeling of the Diocese of Lansing, Michigan. The bishop’s verdict? Quoting the written words of long-time pro-life activist Monica Migliorino Miller (www.stopgranholm.com):

Bishop Mengeling now has officially told the media that he will DO NOTHING to discipline [Michigan Governor Jennifer] Granholm or any other pro-abortion Catholic politician. This is most distressing... Bishop Mengeling's primary reasons for not disciplining pro-abortion Catholic politicians is that the Church must treat people like adults, not children and that the Church can't judge anyone--only God can!! This is amazing! I truly do have respect for the bishop, but his position is completely irresponsible. I'm sorry, but when someone supports a law that permits another group of people to be murdered I think we can safely say they are in contradiction to the Church and to God's law and cannot be admitted to Holy Communion! Indeed, we do want to treat people like adults!!! That's why the so-called Catholics like Gov. Granholm and Kerry MUST BE CALLED TO RESPONSIBILITY! No one is calling them to live like adult Catholics. Instead, the bishops permit these Catholics to act like spoiled teenagers--teenagers who will decide for themselves what is right and wrong no matter what the Church says, no matter that what they do that causes other human beings to be exterminated. It wouldn't be so bad except that what they decide to do and support facilitates the deaths of innocent human beings.

For those who might wish to contact the Diocese of Lansing, the e-mail address in info@dioceseoflansing.org. And while on the subject of the Holy Eucharist, I do want to make a clarification. In a previous column, a term was used – “tainted bread and wine” – that might have caused some confusion.

The traditional teaching of the Church is that the state of the priest’s soul (i.e. state of grace or mortal sin) has no bearing on the efficacy of the Sacrament for the faithful. See the following article for a detailed explanation: http://www.catholicherald.com/saunders/02ws/ws020321.htm

Until next time…


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To: Bluntpoint
There is nothing more current then Islam and Gene Robinson?The Catholic Church is not being split up like the Episcopalians because of homosexuality. Islam is in every page of the news, with it's good bad and uglyness. Then, why not chose those as topics, or has the Catholic Church just an easy target to drag through the mud.

41 posted on 05/03/2004 9:56:41 AM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2002 - The Best Get Better)
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To: Clemenza
Read my post #38...
42 posted on 05/03/2004 9:59:02 AM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2002 - The Best Get Better)
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To: Smartass
Dude! We do have the capacity to deal with more than one issue at a time!

This very forum you are posting to seems to discuss more than one issue at a time!
43 posted on 05/03/2004 9:59:40 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: Smartass
You would be a great news editor.

Cub Reporter: "Chief, what stories should we run today?"

Smartass: "Just pick one, we would not want to tax our readers."
44 posted on 05/03/2004 10:03:01 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
Fine, then those issues should have been separated from outset.
45 posted on 05/03/2004 10:04:38 AM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2002 - The Best Get Better)
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To: Smartass
Separated from what?

Public knowledge?
46 posted on 05/03/2004 10:08:19 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: Smartass
Can you possibly see that your attitude is the very same that may have prolonged and acerbated the problem in the church?
47 posted on 05/03/2004 10:10:00 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
Then, excuse me. Have fun with your bashings.
48 posted on 05/03/2004 10:18:26 AM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2002 - The Best Get Better)
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To: Smartass
"The Catholic Church is not being split up like the Episcopalians because of homosexuality."

Not yet.

49 posted on 05/03/2004 10:22:10 AM PDT by HarleyD (For strong is he who carries out God's word. (Joel 2:11))
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To: Smartass
Bashing?

Point to the last post about the Gene Robinson where someone screeched:

"ENOUGH WITH THE ESPISCOLPIAN BASHING!"
50 posted on 05/03/2004 10:27:05 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: little jeremiah; presidio9; ArGee; lentulusgracchus; Bryan
BTTT


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)


Culture of Vice



51 posted on 05/03/2004 10:54:21 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: presidio9
I your rush to point fingers at the Catholic Church, both of you missed the fact that this has nothing to do with pedophilia. These are priests looking for other priests.
>>>

I don't care. Excommunicate the lot. Anathema sit.
52 posted on 05/03/2004 11:01:26 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones (There ain't no such thing as a freed man. - Milton Lunch)
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; ..
Ping (I'm helping little jeremiah with the list today and tomorrow).
53 posted on 05/03/2004 11:45:45 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: Smartass
However, leave our church alone. As with any large denomination, it will slowly be cleaned up. Maybe slower than faster. Meanwhile please give it a break, while they get it right!

In order to get it right, we need a lot more sunshine thrown into dark corners. The cancer of homosexual priests has not been eliminated. Until people start to understand the depth and breadth of the crisis--which is STILL not being fully addressed--nothing will change.

Personally, I'd be fully behind the outing of every single homosexual bishop and priest.
54 posted on 05/03/2004 11:46:16 AM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Clemenza
>>The REAL problem with the Church is people who state that "there is nothing wrong to see here" and have been in denial about problems within our Church for YEARS.<<

In addition, these same folk have castigated and driven away those people who refused to bury their heads in the sand and continue to support the failing church.
55 posted on 05/03/2004 11:57:03 AM PDT by fraidycat (This is my tagline. Mine. MINE. MINE!!!)
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To: Antoninus
In all due respect. This isn't about enlightenment, keeping one's head in the sand, slamming the closet door, or stiffing open discussion. I agree it is about outing and exposing bad-apple priests. My point is, give the Catholic Church and the subject due rest. There are thousands of good hard working Catholic priests, that are doing Christ's work daily, that have taken a beating. I believe you'll agree, the Church has not fully recovered, or have addressed the problem yet. There is still much more to be done. However, bad pedophile/homosexual priests can still be discussed without associating them directly with the Church and the Catholic Faith. Pedophile priests that resign, or defrocked will find their way to their own hell, one way or the other...with, or without our help.
56 posted on 05/03/2004 2:07:48 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2002 - The Best Get Better)
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To: presidio9
Ah! Don't worry! It is just a priest! He drilled a hole in the wrong locker room again!


57 posted on 05/05/2004 1:18:08 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: presidio9
"...the questing tentacles of this homosexual underground..."

Just when you thought that the use of vivid imagery in the written word was becoming a dying art...

--Boot Hill

58 posted on 05/05/2004 2:27:32 AM PDT by Boot Hill (America...thy hand shall be upon the neck of thine enemies.)
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