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(New) Memos show Gorelick involvement in 'wall'
Washington Times ^ | 4/29/04 | Charles Hurt and Stephen Dinan

Posted on 04/28/2004 10:09:12 PM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:14:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Newly released Justice Department memos show that September 11 panel commissioner Jamie S. Gorelick was more intimately involved than previously thought with hampering communications between U.S. intelligence and law-enforcement agencies fighting terrorism.

As the No. 2 person in the Clinton Justice Department, Ms. Gorelick rejected advice from the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, who warned against placing more limits on communications between law-enforcement officials and prosecutors pursuing counterterrorism cases, according to several internal documents written in summer 1995.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911commission; clintonfailures; clintonlegacy; coverup; doj; freeh; gorelick; gorelickmemo; reno; sept11; whitewash; x42
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To: Lancey Howard
Excellent post (perhaps you could incorporate the quotes into a letter to the editor of the Washington Times in response to this article?).
21 posted on 04/29/2004 1:46:37 AM PDT by maryz
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To: kattracks; All
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22 posted on 04/29/2004 1:56:39 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: kayak
Jamie Gorelick is the one in charge of vetting information to be given to the other members of the committee. Chickens in the foxhole??
23 posted on 04/29/2004 1:56:41 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (illegitimo noncarborundium)
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To: Lancey Howard
"I would like to have her testimony under the penalty of perjury," said the commission's chairman, Thomas H. Kean "But there's another whole dimension here, and that dimension is the public dimension -- and I think the American public would benefit from hearing (her) testify under oath." - Lee Hamilton
"Voluntarily coming forward to testify under oath during a public hearing without the use of a subpoena would simply set a rare, refreshing, and appropriate moral precedent for all of history to judge." - Statement from the 9/11 Families Steering Committee
"(She) ought to find 60 minutes to speak to the commission under oath.... The secretary of state, the head of the Central Intelligence Agency, the undersecretary of state.... go up there and raise their right hand and talk under oath to make America safer. We're talking about the security of our country." - John F. Kerry
"Why won't she testify under oath before the 9/11 Commission? Doesn't she owe that to us as an officer of the United States government? She's a liar. She lied twice in "The Washington Post" op-ed. I'm sorry. She's a proven liar. She should testify under oath." - Paul Begala
"(She) should testify to set a moral precedent that is aptly warranted by the murder of 3,000 people." - Statement from the 9/11 Families Steering Committee
"The American public wants answers.... She ought to testify. She ought to testify under oath. This is about getting to the bottom of some very serious questions about what went on around Sept. 11 and why we didn't do a better job of preparing ourselves." - Terry McAuliffe
"The American public deserves to see in public under oath what she knew ahead of time." - Carrie Lemack (vice president of the Families of September 11 group)
OH WAIT!!!! Sorry! My mistake. The above quotes were made in mid-March. They concerned Condi Rice, not Jamie Gorelick. So sorry.
Repetez si vous plez
24 posted on 04/29/2004 2:12:53 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (illegitimo noncarborundium)
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To: kattracks
All these documents were simply aces in the hole that the Bush administration was holding for release at the right time.

I am sure that they are playing the presidential election the same way. The Bush team is cool.
25 posted on 04/29/2004 2:26:50 AM PDT by Preachin' (Why become a democrat if I have to lie to do it?)
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To: stocksthatgoup
Good find.
26 posted on 04/29/2004 3:15:37 AM PDT by Bronzewound
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To: kattracks
Reverse GorelickBUMP

 

 

Newly released Justice Department memos show that September 11 panel commissioner Jamie S. Gorelick was more intimately involved than previously thought with hampering communications between U.S. intelligence and law-enforcement agencies fighting terrorism.

As the No. 2 person in the Clinton Justice Department, Ms. Gorelick rejected advice from the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, who warned against placing more limits on communications between law-enforcement officials and prosecutors pursuing counterterrorism cases, according to several internal documents written in summer 1995.

"It is hard to be totally comfortable with instructions to the FBI prohibiting contact with the United States Attorney's Offices when such prohibitions are not legally required," U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White wrote Ms. Gorelick six years before the 2001 terrorist attacks in New York and at the Pentagon.

"Our experience has been that the FBI labels of an investigation as intelligence or law enforcement can be quite arbitrary, depending upon the personnel involved and that the most effective way to combat terrorism is with as few labels and walls as possible so that wherever permissible, the right and left hands are communicating," she wrote.

The documents -- released yesterday by the Justice Department at the request of two Senate Republicans -- drew renewed calls for Ms. Gorelick to testify publicly before the September 11 commission about the so-called "wall" between law enforcement and intelligence agencies that many have blamed for allowing the 2001 terrorist attacks to occur.

Sen. John Cornyn, Texas Republican, said yesterday that Ms. Gorelick's policies regarding the wall contributed to "blinding America to this terrible threat."

Also, he said, the newly released memos raised apparent conflicts with statements Ms. Gorelick has made recently defending herself and her role in the Clinton Justice Department.

"These documents show what we've said all along: Commissioner Gorelick has special knowledge of the facts and circumstances leading up to the erection and buttressing of 'that wall' that, before the enactment of the Patriot Act, was the primary obstacle to the sharing of communications between law enforcement and intelligence agencies," Mr. Cornyn said.

In a June 19, 1995, memo, Ms. White recommended a series of changes to a Gorelick policy that went beyond legal requirements in separating law- enforcement and intelligence agencies.

Memos show Gorelick involvement in 'wall'
Charles Hurt and Stephen Dinan
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published April 29, 2004

 

 
 

e would have it backwards and miss the point entirely if we were to attribute The Gorelick Wall and the attendant metastasis of al Qaeda during the clintons' watch, (which, incidentally, was then in its incipient stage and stoppable), to the '60s liberal mindset.

Rampant '60s liberalism was not the underlying rationale for The Gorelick Wall.

Rather, The Gorelick Wall was the underlying rationale for--The Gorelick Wall was (insofar as '60s liberalism was the Wall's apparent impetus) a cynical cover for --the willful, methodical malpractice and malfeasance that was the product of the virulent clinton strain of rampant '60s liberalism.

While it is true that The Gorelick Wall was the convenient device of a cowardly self-serving president, The Wall's aiding and abetting of al Qaeda was largely incidental, (the pervasiveness of the clintons' Nobel-Peace-Prize calculus notwithstanding).

The Wall was engineered primarily to protect a corrupt self-serving president. The metastasis of al Qaeda and 9/11 were simply the cost of doing business, clinton-style....

The Gorelick Wall is consistent with, and an international extension of, two essential acts committed in tandem, Filegate, the simultaneous empowering of the clintons and disemboweling of clinton adversaries, and the clinton Putsch, the firing and replacement of every U.S. attorney extant.

COMPLETE ESSAY

Reverse Gorelick
Mia T, 4.15.04
LINKS TO QUINN IN THE MORNING
(Jim Quinn discusses entire essay at beginning of the show)
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27 posted on 04/29/2004 3:36:22 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: kattracks
The real reason for "The Wall" was to cover Klintoon's ass in the Chinagate illegal campaign contributions affair. Bank it!
28 posted on 04/29/2004 4:16:29 AM PDT by jslade (People who are easily offended, OFFEND ME!)
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To: kattracks
Wonder who on "The Commission" will leak first the session today with President Bush and Vice President Cheney....



29 posted on 04/29/2004 4:32:52 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Lancey Howard
#11..oh my goodness, you got me!
30 posted on 04/29/2004 4:34:05 AM PDT by Guenevere (..., .Press on toward the goal!)
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To: backhoe
On Aug. 22, 1996, just before the Democratic National Convention,
Ms. Gorelick oversaw a critical Justice Department meeting with the FBI.
Immediately after this meeting, all serious inquiry into the fate of TWA 800 came to an end.

Gorelick was instrumental in the corruption of TWA Flight 800 terrorism investigation


Obstruction of the Oklahoma Bombing Grand Jury Investigation
The Mysterious Jamie Gorelick Phone Call


Gorelick and Richard Clarke


Gorelick Memo Impeded Probe of Clinton Fundraising Scandal


DOJ Inspector General's report found that the wall impeded the campaign finance task force


Around June of 1996, Clinton made a written request via his legal counsel,
Charles Ruff, to Janet Reno's deputy Jamie Gorelick. Clinton wanted to know what the FBI knew about
Chinese contributions to the American 1996 campaign. As soon as FBI director Louis Freeh found this out,
he ordered the files witheld. In March, 1997, Clinton allows Red Chinese ships to dock near
US military installations. This hasn't happened since the 1950s.
Ginger Lew, a confidant of John Huang, went to the SBA in May 96. Sockowitz followed her to the SBA
on May 27, 1996. After 3 days, he was given Sensitive Compartmentalized Information
clearance, a level above top secret clearance by, and to, the Commerce Dept., to view sensitive files on encryption.
However, he never got clearance for the SBA, where the encryption files came from.
While Sockowitz returned to the Commerce Dept on Aug 2, 1996. While his successor was out of the office,
he took the files, claiming to the secretary he was "gathering personal items." Security
Violation 1: Sockowitz was not debriefed when he left Commerce. Violation 2: he was not debriefed
when he left SBA in Nov 1996. Oddly enough, Barbara Wise, a Commerce Dept staffer, was found
dead in her office on 11-29-96. She was one of Huang's associates.
Within 24 hours, Clinton made an unscheduled flight back to the Whitehouse from Camp David,
supposedly to get a book of poetry.
Source: Worldnet Daily 6-25-98


GORELICK GATE - various FR links


"We love the DNC, and all that it stands for: unashamed lying.
Now that WE have a copy of Gorelick's book "Destruction of Evidence"
we will NEVER NEVER be fired again.
"


"America has the watches. We have the time;
... and America's quisling Gorelick and her clowns on their laughable 911 Committee.
"
Ayman Al-Zawahiri

31 posted on 04/29/2004 4:48:36 AM PDT by Diogenesis (We do what we are meant to do)
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Gorelick Rejected Attempt to Revise 'Wall' Memo

By Scott Wheeler
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
April 29, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - One of America's most prominent federal prosecutors sought changes to the 1995 "wall" memo authored by then-Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick, but most of the concerns expressed by U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White over the barriers erected between criminal and counter-intelligence investigations were rejected.

Gorelick's "wall" memo was the subject of an April 26 CNSNews.com report, which quoted four sources as saying the memo erected barriers to intelligence-sharing between the FBI and intelligence agencies -- and impeded the investigation of alleged Chinese espionage and illegal campaign donations to President Bill Clinton's 1996 re-election campaign.

According to documents obtained by CNSNews.com, White, who was the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, spelled out her concerns shortly after Gorelick wrote the memo establishing the new guidelines for federal investigations.

The reply that followed came from Michael Vatis, deputy director of the Executive Office of National Security, with Gorelick signing off on Vatis' language.

White was concerned that Gorelick's new guidelines for investigations had made it too complicated for the FBI to contact the U.S. attorney's office and launch a probe of suspicious activity. White suggested that only the Office of Intelligence Policy and Review at the Department of Justice needed to approve such an investigation, and not the department's criminal division.

However, the Vatis/Gorelick memo offered a blunt reply.

"I recommend rejecting this change," the June 19, 1995 document stated. "[A] USAO (U.S. attorney's office) should not be notified of a national security investigation -- particularly one that has not yet developed into a criminal case -- without the approval of the AAG (assistant attorney general), Criminal Division."

The Vatis/Gorelick memo also addressed White's reservations over how the new investigative guidelines would impact a probe under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). White contended that once the Justice Department's Criminal Division had decided that criminal law enforcement concerns existed in a FISA investigation, the appropriate U.S. attorney should be contacted.

Vatis rejected this notion as well.

"Notifying the USAO as soon as law enforcement concerns exist -- but before Crim. thinks that the investigation should 'go criminal' -- is simply too early," the document stated.

The current U.S. attorney general, John Ashcroft, recently de-classified the original Gorelick memo that established the new investigative guidelines. He did so shortly before testifying in front of the commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, calling the Gorelick memo "the single greatest structural cause for September 11."

The June 19, 1995 memo from Vatis/Gorelick was included in a batch of documents released Wednesday by the Justice Department in response to a request by U.S. Senators John Cornyn, (R-Texas) and Lindsay Graham, (R-S.C.).

The senators, in a joint statement, asked the department to "provide key Gorelick documents" in response to the September 11 Commission's "failure to hear testimony from a key Clinton administration Justice Department official (Gorelick), preventing the Congress from receiving a full accounting of intelligence and enforcement procedures that led to the tragic attacks."

A separate statement, released by Cornyn's office late Wednesday, charged that the newly released documents "substantially discredit former Deputy Attorney General -- and current 9/11 Commission member -- Jamie Gorelick's claims of limited involvement in the promulgation of 'the wall' separating counterintelligence and law enforcement agencies.

"Specifically, the documents show that she was substantially involved in the development of the information-sharing policy and contradicts statements that the department's policies under the Clinton-Reno administration enhanced, rather than restricted, such vital information sharing," Cornyn stated.

"These documents show what I've said all along: Commissioner Gorelick has special knowledge of the facts and circumstances leading up to the erection and buttressing of 'that wall' that, before the enactment of the Patriot Act, was the primary obstacle to the sharing of communications between law enforcement and intelligence agencies," Cornyn's statement continued.

Gorelick's membership on the 9/11 Commission has become controversial considering that she also worked in the Clinton administration's Justice Department. Many Republicans in Congress have called for her to also testify before the commission, a request the commission's chairman has rejected.

"This is a person with knowledge of relevant facts. Either the Commission wants the whole truth, or it does not," Cornyn stated.

"If it does, she should appear in public testimony so that the families of the victims, the American people and the Congress can have a full and complete picture of what led to the failures of 9/11," Cornyn added.

See Earlier Story:
Gorelick Memo Allegedly Impeded Probe of Clinton Fundraising Scandal


E-mail a news tip to Scott Wheeler.

Send a Letter to the Editor about this article.


32 posted on 04/29/2004 4:49:15 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: Diogenesis
Thanks- links copied & saved.
33 posted on 04/29/2004 4:53:46 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: jslade
The real reason for "The Wall" was to cover Klintoon's ass in the Chinagate illegal campaign contributions affair. Bank it!

And the WTC and the Pentagon and Flight 93 were just collateral damage to them.

The Clintons have a stinky smell all around them that makes us all suspicious. Now, just as I suspected, midnight-pardoned Marc Rich is said to have been involved in the Oil for Food program.

34 posted on 04/29/2004 5:08:12 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: kattracks
The extent of Ms. Gorelick's involvement, spelled out in these memos, in buttressing the law enforcement-intelligence wall also raises questions about statements she has made recently defending herself and distancing herself from the decisions about the wall.

So, the 9/11 Ommission has been handed the Mother Lode Of 9/11 on a silver platter. Yet they refuse to question the star player in the entire affair - or maybe the one who can unravel right to lap of the star player - and they refuse to do their duty. Refuse!!

Every member of this pathetic commission should be either fired for incompetence or indicted for abetting a ongoing criminal conspiracy under the RICO Act. My preference is the latter.

Not only is this playing politics of the worst sort, but they are covering up the very thing they are supposed to be investigating!

35 posted on 04/29/2004 6:25:06 AM PDT by Gritty ("Dems think 9/11 is like the 1998 ice storm or a Florida hurricane-just one of those things-Mk Steyn)
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To: Mo1
Do you know anything about Gorelick's relationship with Hillary? Did they know each other? Do they stay in contact now?
36 posted on 04/29/2004 6:41:55 AM PDT by twigs
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To: kayak
It never ceases to amaze me how people lie and think they can get away with it. Thank God, literally, for the Internet and FOXNEWS.
37 posted on 04/29/2004 7:05:49 AM PDT by hobson
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To: kattracks
Another brick....


38 posted on 04/29/2004 7:08:50 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: kattracks
the memo erected barriers to intelligence-sharing between the FBI and intelligence agencies -- and impeded the investigation of alleged Chinese espionage and illegal campaign donations to President Bill Clinton's 1996 re-election campaign.

The root cause of Gorelick reinforcing "the wall".
39 posted on 04/29/2004 7:19:49 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: jslade; kcvl
The real reason for "The Wall" was to cover Klintoon's ass in the Chinagate illegal campaign contributions affair. Bank it!

I don't don't if it was for Chinagate .. But I agree it was to cover his butt and I'll bet it was done at Hellary's suggestion

40 posted on 04/29/2004 7:20:06 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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