Court Martial in Iraq (CBS to broadcast images of US troops mistreating Iraqis...)

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[An.American.Expatriate]

Ping to a related topic in our ongoing discussion.

[Teacher317]

An article stating that "humiliating" muslim warriors was the most effective and efficient way to win this war. (It recently discussed here on FR... anyone recall the title?)

[fly_so_free]

"Would you have it covered up , or ignored?"

No, but, can I remind CBS of one pertinent fact:

WE ARE AT WAR!!!!

At this very moment, our soldiers are in harms way. All this "report" is going to do is embolden, enrage our enemies. It is TOTALLY IRRESPONSIBLE for See BS to broadcast a story of this type, while our soldiers are engaged in combat.

We are having enough problems over in Iraq, without having a hit piece on our military broadcast by our own media. Think of the propaganda value to the fanatics. This is not to say it should never be told, but, it should not be told right now.

During WW 2 did the media run hit pieces on the soldiers? Were there any negative stories about the military during the war? I don't think so. From what I've seen, the media at that time, were even careful to never photograph FDR in his wheelchair, because they didn't want to give an image of weakness to the enemy. Those days are sure long gone.(sigh)

It's not like the abuses are being ignored. The soldiers are facing Court Martial, who abused the Iraqi prisoners, so what purpose is the 60 minutes report going to serve, other than to make it harder on our military? Why can't 60 minutes wait , and tell this story later, not wile Iraq is still a hornet's nest that is easily stirred up?

[Redbob]

"What kind of training does one need to know that it's not okay to beat or mistreat prisoners?"

Give the "Hits Nail on Head with First Swing" award to this man!

[wingnutx]

Now that I've seen the pictures, theses perps should be severely hammered. Not only is it simply wrong, it also endangers their fellow soldier's lives and our mission in Iraq. Jail them.

[Arpege92]

"Our soldiers are facing evil daily and if the tables were turned I'm sure the detainee would probably put a bullet in them rather than talking."

They already did....the Italian was shot in the head!

[DannyTN]

"He’s a corrections officer at a Virginia prison, whose warden described Frederick to us as “one of the best.”

Makes you wonder what goes on in our own prisons.

[Eowyn-of-Rohan]

"bitchslap"? what exactly does that mean?

[Eowyn-of-Rohan]

"Who is that cute female MP in the photos?? "

What kind of woman would have ANYTHING do do with such foulness? I wonder how her family and their friends feel towards her after seeing her standing in that room with naked iraqi men in obscene positions, with a smile and thumb up...

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Just type http://www.island.lk/2001/09/13/page1.jpg into your browser address bar, and then right-click on the image and select "Save picture as" (to save the image) or "add to favorites" (to save the URL).

[pitinkie]

Thanks I needed the URL cause would not save from the Free Republic thread...got some weird error message.

[Turbo Pig]

Do you want the interrogators to do EVERYTHING to get info fast

These weren't interrogator, these were prison guards. They were acting in a manner unbecoming of US military personnel.

It's a sad commentary that our soldiers are being prosecuted.

No, it's a shame that they did not follow the training they received, and acted like a bunch of morons. These soldiers are a microcosm of our society. Thank God that the soldiers involved in this are NOT representative of the caliber of people in our military.

Do you remember just recently an officer, a colonel...

Apples and oranges. He was acting in the capacity of trying to save his own life, and the people under his command's lives. These people were acting like a$$holes, pure and simple.

[zygoat]

"What kind of woman would have ANYTHING do do with such foulness? I wonder how her family and their friends feel towards her after seeing her standing in that room with naked iraqi men in obscene positions, with a smile and thumb up..."

The kind that takes a folded American flag home instead of a Father? Son? Husband? Brother? Daughter? Friend?

[anka]

in all fairness FairOpinion.
I saw the pictures and it's NOT torture that is being shown (e.g. bamboo shoots under finger nails, etc...)

there are a quite a few pictures of naked iraqis, piled up on each other, bent over each other, on their knees in front of their comrades etc...

and all throughout, you see OUR troops with sh*t eating grins on their faces...

now, here i sit, comfortably in my chair.
no bullets whizzing past my head or IED's tearing my buddies apart.
so, can I judge (or can any of us here) the actions of these 'soldiers'?

yes.
we can and we should.
these 'soldiers' have disgraced themselves
they have disgraced their fellow soldiers who deal with the same dangers and stress in a more civilized fashion.
they have disgraced our country and our armed forces and all those who served before them honorably.

we can certainly empathize with the daily struggles that they must endure.
BUT, we can NOT excuse their behavior.

best regards.

[Terp]

Just saw some of the pictures on FOX. I can't believe it. A sad day indeed. These people need to burn big time!!!

[pawdoggie]

The obvious lesson here, a lesson that our civilian and military leadership need to emphasize to Americans and foreigners alike, is that in Saddam's Army this kind of behavior (and far worse) would get you promoted. In our Army, it gets you court-martialed.

[freebilly]

I am sick to think that some Americans would engage in this disgusting crap. These bastards need to pay.

[freebilly]

The kind that takes a folded American flag home instead of a Father? Son? Husband? Brother? Daughter? Friend?

I would prefer to take home a folded American flag than to see pictures of my son or committing psycho-sexual, sado-masochistic acts against another human being....