To: MamaDearest
Longtime lurker, first time poster. Daleel is back at the IH forum. He said he had been in Iraq, had just gotten back, and was posting under the $15,000,000 Reward thread. Wish I was more computer savvy, don't even know how to post a link or else I would provide one. The IH forum is rather disturbing, I don't have the nerve to become a member.
To: I want to know
You can send me the link when you feel you can't post it "I Want to Know" because I can post it for you.
FYI.
Cindy
1,578 posted on
05/01/2004 7:07:26 PM PDT by
Cindy
To: I want to know
The unfortunate thing is that if you are not a member of IH then you cannot view the Arabic postings and translations on the al neda forum; you will not even see that such a forum exists because it will be invisible to you as a non-member. This particluar forum is so far more valuable than the other general forum areas to which Daleel, Traveller, and some notable others post who do not post to al neda.
So -- you will miss the important posts similar -- but not always identical -- to the important ones posted by Jill St. Claire, StillProud2BeFree, NEIN, etc. But, thank goodness, you will get them from Jill, StillProud2BeFree and others who do post certain messages that they get on their own. But only some posts from IH are reposted here or anywhere else. Some only appear on IH and the original Arabic site they came from. There are many more that are not appearing anywhere else but on IH and they are interesting.
I follow them but I choose not to repost any of them. I follow for my own personal knowledge only. There are some indecent threads at IH that I do not go on and there certainly are threats at IH from some dubious posters for sure. All a part of the hunt for the brave hunters. It can be scary, but it is necessary in the hunt, I guess.
To: I want to know
Welcome I want to know. By the way, we all want to know. That's why we're here. Look forward to having you contribute to helping us connect the dots and educate each other here on this thread. You are not the only one fearful of the IH forum and its like. Many here are much more brave than I and they share their finds with us (and I am SO VERY THANKFUL FOR THEM!!!). Again - welcome and hope to hear from you again!
1,597 posted on
05/01/2004 9:50:26 PM PDT by
MamaDearest
(All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good people do nothing.)
To: I want to know
1,608 posted on
05/02/2004 12:20:11 AM PDT by
LayoutGuru2
(Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
To: I want to know
Long time Freeper too -g- Glad you made it out to this thread ;)
1,629 posted on
05/02/2004 1:44:00 AM PDT by
JustPiper
(Look for the dream that keeps coming back - It is your destiny)
To: I want to know
Daleel is ranting over at ItsHappening.com right now...
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hope this will help clear things out. may God bless all the truth seekers here.
THE SUN ROTATES
For a long time European philosophers and scientists believed that the earth stood still in the centre of the universe and every other body including the sun moved around it. In the West, this geocentric concept of the universe was prevalent right from the time of Ptolemy in the second century B.C. In 1512, Nicholas Copernicus put forward his Heliocentric Theory of Planetary Motion, which asserted that the sun is motionless at the centre of the solar system with the planets revolving around it.
In 1609, the German scientist Yohannus Keppler published the Astronomia Nova. In this he concluded that not only do the planets move in elliptical orbits around the sun, they also rotate upon their axes at irregular speeds. With this knowledge it became possible for European scientists to explain correctly many of the mechanisms of the solar system including the sequence of night and day.
After these discoveries, it was thought that the Sun was stationary and did not rotate about its axis like the Earth. I remember having studied this fallacy from Geography books during my school days. Consider the following Quraanic verse:
It is He Who created The Night and the Day, And the sun and the moon: All (the celestial bodies) Swim along, each in its Rounded course. [Al-Quraan 21:33]
The Arabic word used in the above verse is yasbahn. The word yasbahn is derived from the word sabaha. It carries with it the idea of motion that comes from any moving body. If you use the word for a man on the ground, it would not mean that he is rolling but would mean he is walking or running. If you use the word for a man in water it would not mean that he is floating but would mean that he is swimming.
Similarly, if you use the word yasbah for a celestial body such as the sun it would not mean that it is only flying through space but would mean that it is also rotating as it goes through space. Most of the school textbooks have incorporated the fact that the sun rotates about its axis. The rotation of the sun about its own axis can be proved with the help of an equipment that projects the image of the sun on the table top so that one can examine the image of the sun without being blinded. It is noticed that the sun has spots which complete a circular motion once every 25 days i.e. the sun takes approximately 25 days to rotate around its axis.
In fact, the sun travels through space at roughly 150 miles per second, and takes about 200 million years to complete one revolution around the center of our Milky Way Galaxy.
It is not permitted To the Sun to catch up The Moon, nor can The Night outstrip the Day: Each (just) swims along In (its own) orbit (According to Law). [Al-Quraan 36:40]
This verse mentions an essential fact discovered by modern astronomy, i.e. the existence of the individual orbits of the Sun and the Moon, and their journey through space with their own motion. The fixed place towards, which the sun travels, carrying with it the solar system, has been located exactly by modern astronomy. It has been given a name, the Solar Apex. The solar system is indeed moving in space towards a point situated in the constellation of Hercules (alpha Layer) whose exact location is firmly established.
The moon rotates around its axis in the same duration that it takes to revolve around the earth. It takes approximately 29 days to complete one rotation. One cannot help but be amazed at the scientific accuracy of the Quraanic verses. Should we not ponder over the question: What was the source of knowledge contained in the Quraan?
THE SUN WILL EXTINGUISH AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD
The light of the sun is due to a chemical process on its surface that has been taking place continuously for the past five billion years. It will come to an end at some point of time in the future when the sun will be totally extinguished leading to extinction of all life on earth. Regarding the impermanence of the suns existence the Quraan says:
And the Sun Runs its course For a period determined For it; that is The decree of (Him) The exalted in Might, The All-Knowing. [Al-Quraan 36:38]
(** A similar message is conveyed in the Quran in 13:2, 35:13, 39:5 and 39:21.)
The Arabic word used here is mustaqarr, which means a place or time that is determined. Thus the Quraan says that the sun runs towards a determined place, and will do so only up to a pre-determined period of time meaning that it will end or extinguish.
Alaah Akbaar
Almojahid
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Alaah Akbaar
Almojahid
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2,288 posted on
05/04/2004 7:36:48 PM PDT by
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