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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Seven
The Washington Times ^ | 4-26-04 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 04/26/2004 3:35:38 PM PDT by JustPiper

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:14:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat"

Two Chinese diplomats, away from their Los Angeles consulate improperly, recently sped their vehicle past a Los Alamos National Laboratory guard post near classified facilities in what U.S. officials think was an intelligence mission, The Washington Times has learned.


(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: homelandsecurity; plethoriaofinfo; terrorthreats; threatmatrix
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To: TBall
Me either somebody on here may know something. Seems like China has all kinds of things. YUK
641 posted on 04/28/2004 3:10:10 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Let your adversary talk. When he has finished, let him talk some more.)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT
Points 2 and 3 are consistent....stars did seem to be falling to earth- only later could be seen to be missiles

and

the aurora was in a huge wave covering at least 1/3-1/2 of the sky- (Moving like a flag waving in the wind)- the colors were intense blue-greens and red-oranges.

It was amazing to watch- and when I woke up, I was left with a sense of "shock and awe"- also, felt that I'd witnessed something quite beautiful. And frightening at the same time.

I told my family about the dream (not something that I normally do.)
642 posted on 04/28/2004 3:13:22 PM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: All
Re- tanker crashed- I just googled tanker crash and found out that an Aussie propane tanker exploded today.

Also, these recent incidents were noted: (Courtesy of Google news)

Propane Tanker Crash Forces Evacuation

WNEP-TV, PA - Apr 27, 2004
A part of Route 522 in Snyder County is closed because of a propane truck crash. State police explain the crash happened this morning in Beavertown. ...


Results Of Investigation Into Deadly Tanker Crash In Howard ...

WJZ, MD - Apr 26, 2004
Maryland Transportation authority police say they will released a report on Tuesday about the deadly tanker accident in the Elkridge area in Howard County. ...


Not again: tanker crash closes I-84 !!!

New Britain Herald, CT - Apr 21, 2004
... on Interstate 95 in Bridgeport last month in which an oil tanker burned with ... In Tuesday's crash, only the asphalt appeared to be damaged, said state police ...


Conn. Driver Gets Ticket in Tanker Crash
Atlanta Journal Constitution, GA - Apr 16, 2004
... The tanker exploded into flames, and the intense heat caused structural steel ... Northbound lanes were reopened three days after the crash; southbound lanes were ...

Woman gets ticket accusing her of causing fiery tanker crash
Part of I-95 reopens after tanker crash

Newark Star Ledger, NJ - Mar 28, 2004
... and cheered yesterday as a parade of cars, escorted by police, traveled on a northbound Interstate 95 overpass for the first time since a fiery tanker crash. ...

643 posted on 04/28/2004 3:23:30 PM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: jerseygirl
Thanks for tracking these! Seems like far to many, but I guess we've never payed too much attention...until now.
644 posted on 04/28/2004 3:26:43 PM PDT by appalachian_dweller (The RIGHT of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.)
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To: appalachian_dweller
That was only the first page! Crashes were also listed in New Zealand and Australia today.


Sorry for the repeat, but
I still wonder if this list of cities hints at the projected AQ targets:

NOW RECRUITING!
AmeriCorps National Preparedness and Response Corps (NPRC)
http://www.redcross.org/article/0,1...12_2594,00.html




Thursday, April 22, 2004 —

The National Preparedness and Response Corps (NPRC) is one of two national direct programs sponsored by the American National Red Cross and funded by an AmeriCorps grant from the Corporation for National and Community Service.

The mission of the NPRC is to provide vital emergency assistance to communities affected by disaster and increase preparedness in the areas of greatest need before disasters strike by recruiting, training and supporting young adults who will provide integrated community outreach and education through Red Cross service activities focusing on homeland security.

The NPRC program is currently recruiting candidates available to serve full-time at American Red Cross chapters in the following cities:

Anchorage, Alaska
Glendale, California
Los Angeles County, California
Oakland, California
Pasadena, California
Santa Barbara, California
Whittier, California
Greenwich/Stamford, Connecticut
Fort Myers, Florida
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Chicago, Illinois
Peoria, Illinois
Springfield, Illinois
Topeka, Kansas
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
New Orleans, Louisiana
Lowell, Massachusetts
Baltimore, Maryland
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Puerto Rico
Belton, Texas
Corpus Christi, Texas
Dallas, Texas
Richmond, Virginia
Seattle, Washington

(snip)
645 posted on 04/28/2004 3:34:52 PM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: Indie
If any of you haven't been there lately, on Jill's site is a phenomenal article for read, copy and adaptation titled "What to Do with Less than 3 Days to a Nuclear Disaster." Plan to read and implement it (to the best of your ability) if you have not already done so.
646 posted on 04/28/2004 4:12:22 PM PDT by MamaDearest (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good people do nothing.)
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To: MamaDearest
Dear MD- Just printed it. I get the impression that those who read the forums carefully have decided we are going to be hit with nukes in the coming days- not weeks.
647 posted on 04/28/2004 4:25:56 PM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: JustPiper
If ever our troops needed a moral boost from us, this is the time. Instead CBS is seeking to demoralize them and cast them as thugs and villains. So many families have lost their loved ones in this war. They don't need this kind of "reporting" that is totally insensitive to their pain. This is the same network that stooped so low as to show pictures of dying Princess Diana. If you have TV station options, think about what you are sponsoring when you watch this network and switch channels, take a walk or read a book instead.

CBS TO BERATE OUR TROOPS - TIME TO AXE CBS FROM OUR TV SCREENS

648 posted on 04/28/2004 4:26:38 PM PDT by MamaDearest (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good people do nothing.)
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To: Velveeta
97-Year-Old Woman Jailed For Expired Registration

The law enforcement deputy who did this,is nothing more than a badged bully who needs to be reprimanded and give this lady an apology. It's no wonder many young people have no respect for law enforcement in the USA. Law enforcement brings it upon themselves by this kind of action. After this incident, how could this woman possibly think they would protect her should she need it and what does this show other elderly people about their law enforcement personnel?

649 posted on 04/28/2004 4:40:25 PM PDT by MamaDearest (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good people do nothing.)
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To: Velveeta
Are those like the hollow cola cans for stashing money or ????
650 posted on 04/28/2004 4:41:41 PM PDT by MamaDearest (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good people do nothing.)
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To: MamaDearest
National Guard is pulled off bridge detail
Financial burden cited; other agencies take over

By Mark Prado, IJ reporter


Rifle-toting California National Guard troops will leave the Golden Gate Bridge on Friday after spending more than two years protecting the national landmark in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The U.S. Park Police, Golden Gate National Recreation Area rangers, California Highway Patrol, the Coast Guard and Golden Gate Bridge District officers will fill the Guard's role with help from other agencies, officials said.

"It may not look the same, but security will remain high," said Mary Currie, bridge district spokeswoman.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger made the call in late March to pull the troops, officials said.

Gary Winuck, chief deputy director of the state Office of Homeland Security, said the cost of having the Guard on the bridge 24 hours a day, seven days a week was a factor in the decision.

"It was a financial burden on the guard," Winuck said.

The Guard initially asked Schwarzenegger last November to take troops off as soon as possible because of growing costs.

The Guard spent about $5 million a year providing security on the bridge, but it was not reimbursed by the state. More than 50 troops are assigned to the bridge but, citing security issues, officials declined to say how many are on patrol at any one time.

Even with the Guard's exit, Winuck said he is confident the bridge will be well protected.

http://www.marinij.com/Stories/0,1413,234~24407~2111192,00.html
651 posted on 04/28/2004 4:41:49 PM PDT by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: Velveeta
With the caveat that a broken clock being right twice a day is the best example of simple "coincidence", I think three "coincidences" have been mentioned already (not knowing whether they add up to anything more than their face value)

1) Kim Jong-Il passed through the station 9 hrs before the blast (sounds like a big miss, but he reportedly likes to visit a factory there and someone may have thought he might stop there). He is feared, and hated. We are not the only ones who do not know what is going on over there. I doubt he knows half of what is going on over there. When folks are too scared to tell you anything but "yes", you then isolate yourself from the truth. The truth is that they are in a state of catastrophic collapse and are past the point where they can extort enough money from us to cover their losses. The only way they will get the massive infusion of aid needed to bail them out is to cough up their nukes, every last one of them.

If they try to go south, they (their military and foreign intel) know how that game ends (even if they dare not say it out loud). The question is whether the "Dear Leader" does.

NMD reportedly goes active in a matter of weeks (I think the papers said they moved it from Sept to June). It will inhibit their capability to launch their nukes on the US (everyone reading this is 30-40 minutes away from a North Korean nuke). Once NMD is up and running, it substantially degrades their arsenal (which is probably much larger than either this administration or the previous one would admit - - even the new estimate of 8 warheads is probably low, but better than the number of 1 or 2 that has been the party line since 1993). You cannot feasibly transfer a meaningful number of nukes to a terrorist group and infiltrate them into the US without getting caught. You can launch a significant number (in theory), and retain some for a second-strike deterrent.

People can have itchy trigger fingers.

2) He was returning from a historic trip to China (I think he has been there once before and to Russia once and that is it) where the Chinese leadership is reportedly trying to get him to fork over his nukes and get a grip on reality (leave his Hitlerian fantasy-land and join the real world a la Libya). Many if not most in the North Korean leadership tie their survival to the arsenal. If they surrender the means to reunify the peninsula militarily, then the regime is consigned to the dustbin of history. So they may adopt a "use-it-or-lose-it" mentality. Third option is negotiations. They give us what we want (the nukes). We give them what they want (a lifeboat). Problem is that there may be differences of opinion in the leadership on striking a deal (unexpressed though they are)

3) There are reports of a major power struggle inside North Korea. A week or two before the trip, the second most powerful man in North Korea (Kim's brother-in-law Chang/Jang) was removed from his post. His entire family is tied into the power structure (I think one of Chang's brothers is a military general, another is high up in internal security).

On the other hand, the "accident" could still be a coincidence. They shut everything down before he came through, and with all the extreme security precautions, when they tried to bring everything back "online" once he had left, someone did not realize that explosives were near a live wire.

We cannot seem to figure out how many nukes they have. I wouldn't expect anyone to get to the bottom of this one anytime soon. It's like old-school Sovietology - - reading entrails. At least the death toll was much less than originally estimated (South Korean TV initially said 3,000 dead or injured - - no telling where they pulled that number from)

Whatever happened, it is bound to make them more jumpy, and that is not a good thing. Jumpy people make bad decisions. And this would be precisely the wrong moment to pull troops tasked to Korea and put them in Iraq. Serious people are talking about this, and it is simply insane.

BTW, North Korea trains jihadis. *Lots* of them. They were "country before country was cool". And they probably were/are up to their eyeballs in terrorism of the worst kind.
652 posted on 04/28/2004 4:42:53 PM PDT by NothingMan
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To: MamaDearest
I agree. The cops, their bosses and those who write the laws are to blame. The cops are idioits tho', for showing no modicum of discretion, judgement and common sense.
653 posted on 04/28/2004 4:43:32 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
Can we add the courts into the idiot category



IDAHO
Web pages barred in terrorism trial
BOISE — Prosecutors in the terrorism-related trial of a Saudi graduate student may not show jurors Web pages and e-mails that purportedly encourage terrorism unless they prove the defendant created them or embraced their content, a judge ruled yesterday.
Judge Lodge said the material could be prejudicial to Mr. Al-Hussayen, and "there's no way the court can strike from jurors' minds evidence that is not tied up."
Mr. Al-Hussayen, 34, a computer science student at the University of Idaho, is accused of setting up and running Web sites that were used to recruit terrorists and support the Palestinian militant group Hamas.

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040426-113906-7936r.htm
654 posted on 04/28/2004 4:47:11 PM PDT by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: Letitring
If a tanker truck is directly ahead, we can take a different route or wait it out and attempt the trip after any released contaminants are hopefully blown away (disbursed) Keep windows up and air conditioning off as much as possible when following such trucks. If the tanker has BC license plates - be very concerned. If you can get the license plate number, do so and contact the appropriate agency to report it as possibly part of the truck convoy being sought from Canada with Arabic drivers.
655 posted on 04/28/2004 4:54:42 PM PDT by MamaDearest (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good people do nothing.)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
Hi Donna,

Someone actually emailed me your post.

Yes I miss being here. I'll be back.

I had a major computer crash, tried to save money by buying a second hand one and I entered a never ending nightmare.

I have hardware/software catching up to do....recreate my files....save my customers...then I'll be back.

Hugs and waves to everyone!
656 posted on 04/28/2004 4:55:33 PM PDT by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: StillProud2BeFree
Just as you are experiencing difficulty with the Sounds of Silence by the "peaceful" Muslims, I am troubled by those who want to release the potential terrorists at Gitmo NOW to protect THEIR civil rights. The total ignorance / stupidity of these bona fide ACLU suck-ups overwhelms me.
657 posted on 04/28/2004 5:07:51 PM PDT by MamaDearest (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good people do nothing.)
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To: Calpernia
Yikes, that sounds awful and extremely inconvenient. I hope you get back to speed soon, especially with your client data.
658 posted on 04/28/2004 5:13:55 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: jerseygirl
I think you may have a had a prophetic dream about end times.

the aurora was in a huge wave covering at least 1/3-1/2 of the sky- (Moving like a flag waving in the wind)- the colors were intense blue-greens and red-oranges.

_____________________________
The only descriptions we have of GOD and Jesus are color like you are talking about.

[3] And he who sat there appeared like jasper and carnelian, and round the throne was a rainbow that looked like an emerald.

Here is an ok bible search. Put in one word and see if anything matches what you dreamed. And remember the prophets in the bible were seeing things they had never seen before. So they did not have words like bombs, nukes etc. to describe future events.

http://www.hti.umich.edu/r/rsv/simple.html

One more thing it is the words you are using also...

something quite beautiful. And frightening at the same time.
I had an experience in 1998 that could be explained the same way too long to go into on here. Needless to say I was reading everything I could find for about 3 years when the only explanation was GOD. Now I wish it would happen again!
659 posted on 04/28/2004 5:14:56 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Let your adversary talk. When he has finished, let him talk some more.)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT
"An alarming increase in attacks on and threats against the Muslim community in America points to the need for heightened security

I think ya' got that a$$ backwards there Muhammad. A day late and a dollar short. Tough it out and sweat...and pray to whatever you pray to that there is not another attack on our soil.

660 posted on 04/28/2004 5:16:13 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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