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Egan, Kerry: No love feast?
NY Daily News ^ | April 26, 2004 | Rush & Malloy

Posted on 04/26/2004 8:33:57 AM PDT by presidio9

Will Edward Cardinal Egan try to block Sen. John Kerry from the 59th Alfred E. Smith Dinner? The annual gathering, sponsored by the Archdiocese of New York, isn't until October, but organizers are already said to be worrying about whether Egan may take a hard-line against the Democratic candidate because he supports abortion rights. Friday, the Vatican's Francis Cardinal Arinze said a Catholic politician who supports abortion rights "is not fit" to receive Holy Communion. Bishop Raymond Burke of St. Louis, for one, has said he would refuse Kerry Communion.

Last week, we hear, members of the Al Smith Foundation met to discuss what to do if Egan takes a similar position, or tries to bar Kerry from the dinner, named for New York Gov. Al Smith, who ran for President in 1928 against Herbert Hoover.

"They're concerned that Egan may do something to win favor with the Pope," says a source. "Some people were nervous that the Cardinal wouldn't recognize a Catholic who is pro-choice."

Archdiocese spokesman Joseph Zwilling said Egan was traveling in Europe but told us, "I haven't heard any discussion about John Kerry and the Al Smith dinner."

A message left with foundation member Alfred Smith 4th wasn't immediately returned.

While not quite a sacrament, the Smith dinner has become an important ritual for pols, who don white tie and tails in final weeks before the election. Candidates George W. Bush and Al Gore both attended it 2000.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cardinalegan

1 posted on 04/26/2004 8:33:59 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
John Kerry ain't no Al Smith.
2 posted on 04/26/2004 8:36:08 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: presidio9
"They're concerned that Egan may do something to win favor with the Pope," says a source. "Some people were nervous that the Cardinal wouldn't recognize a Catholic who is pro-choice."

How can enforcing one of the fundamental teachings of the church be twisted into a move to curry favor? If he granted him access would they call that a move to curry favor with the left wing of the church? - I doubt it.

3 posted on 04/26/2004 8:42:21 AM PDT by hometoroost
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To: Unam Sanctam
And, alas, Egan ain't much of a bishop, either. He has been much weaker than Cardinal O'Connor on all things pro-life and has made some very ambiguous statements on the matter. (Some were posted here, but I'm darned if I can find them now...)

My money is on Kerry winning this round.
4 posted on 04/26/2004 9:12:30 AM PDT by livius
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To: presidio9
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5 posted on 04/26/2004 10:24:22 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; Desdemona; NYer; Salvation; Siobhan; Maeve; cpforlife.org; narses; BlackElk
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6 posted on 04/26/2004 10:25:46 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: ELS; GirlShortstop
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7 posted on 04/26/2004 10:27:01 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: livius
What ambigous statements has he made? I know he has not done what Cardinal O'Connor did. At least he put the Sisters of Life in charge of the pro-life sextion of the archdiocese.
8 posted on 04/26/2004 10:29:17 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: presidio9; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp IV; narses; ...
Why not invite Senator Rick Santorum!

According to Domenico Bettinelli's blog (he provides no link),

Religion in the public square

Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, a practicing Catholic, issued a press release rebuttal to John Kerry's assertion on Friday that religion should not enter the public square and has no place in political policymaking.

I am astonished that Senator Kerry would suggest that religion does not have a role in public life when the very history of the United States is deeply rooted in religion. 

The Founding Fathers risked their lives to establish freedom of worship in our country. Religion and moral law motivated the abolitionists to combat slavery.  Civil rights principals felt so strongly about their faith that they organized themselves under the banner of the "Southern Christian Leadership Council" in the 1960s.

In view of our country’s Founders and the great moral warriors who fought slavery and racism, religion is much more than a nonissue - it is essential to the success of the American experiment.  In fact, religion has inspired, informed and motivated men and women to the benefit of all.

I call on Senator Kerry to clarify or retract his statement and affirm the great tradition of religious pluralism which has been the soul of this country’s strength and one of the great contributions of the American experiment to the world.

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Kerry's position is exactly that of most liberals today. Religion, especially of the conservative kind, is destructive, benighting, and dangerous, if not just a general nuisance. If only they could marginalize religion, push it to the sidelines, get rid of it, then a new moral authority could rise up, one based solely on personal preference and political ideology, preferably their own. But as Santorum reminds us, religion, especially Christianity, is a vital cornerstone of American society and political philosophy and if we try to remove it we endanger the whole structure.

9 posted on 04/26/2004 10:45:58 AM PDT by NYer (O Promise of God from age to age. O Flower of the Gospel!)
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To: NYer
Kerry is not a Catholic in good standing, only the most liberal Catholics could claim so. However, the Al Smith dinner is not a Catholic church. I believe it generally takes place in a hotel.

I may well be in the minority on this on FR, but I think Kerry should be allowed to speak. I remember when Al Gore and GWB spoke at the 2000 dinner. GWB got a huge standing ovation for mentioning a respect for life. I believe he would again. I also believe Kerry would fall flat on his face. He's got even less personality than Al Gore.

I wouldn't recommend that the Cardinal act like Hillary Clinton during Kerry's speech, but enthusiastic applause for GWB only would speak volumes.

10 posted on 04/26/2004 11:01:54 AM PDT by old and tired (Go Toomey! Send Specter back to the Highlands!)
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To: presidio9
Cardinal Egan: Pro-Abort Catholic Pols Are within Their "Rights"
11 posted on 04/26/2004 12:06:59 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: presidio9
Egan's probably waiting to se if the check clears.
12 posted on 04/26/2004 12:09:35 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: livius
Cardinal O'Connor chastised Rudy Guiliani for his pro choice stance but embraced David Dinkins.......

A little bit of political correctness run amok IMHO.

13 posted on 04/26/2004 12:28:34 PM PDT by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: Coleus; NYer; presidio9; mewzilla; sandyeggo; american colleen; Desdemona; livius; nickcarraway; ...
Coleus, I missed your post about Egan the other day. It literally makes me sick to think Egan is one of those talking about "you pro-lifers". I am so angry I can barely write. Afterall, what has he done in his leadership position to combine the forces of the pro-life movement?

It scares me to think how such a man would act at the Al Smith dinner. But I think I see now why the issue has come up - it's that Egan has been less than a friend to pro-lifers and he is being called to task on everything.

I'm curious if everyone else thinks Egan should cancel Kerry? I'm not sure Egan even has authority to cancel him. Perhaps Egan should cancel himself - which, of course, will never happen. Egan would not pass up the opportunity to hobnob with the really rich Catholics who attend the Al Smith dinner.

14 posted on 04/26/2004 12:46:27 PM PDT by old and tired (Go Toomey! Send Specter back to the Highlands!)
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To: old and tired; nickcarraway; livius
Kerry should be excommunicated and invited to the Al Smith dinner.

That's just the way I sees it, I do....

15 posted on 04/26/2004 1:05:36 PM PDT by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: Siobhan
Kerry should be excommunicated and invited to the Al Smith dinner.

That would sit very well with me.

16 posted on 04/26/2004 1:19:35 PM PDT by old and tired (Go Toomey! Send Specter back to the Highlands!)
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To: Coleus
From your link: Egan actually used the phrase "you prolifers"? (Emphasis added.)
17 posted on 04/26/2004 1:19:45 PM PDT by maryz
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To: presidio9
"They're concerned that Egan may do something to win favor with the Pope," says a source

Ever the politician it seems.

18 posted on 04/26/2004 1:22:32 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (The day the Church abandons her universal tongue is the day before she returns to the catacombs-PXII)
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To: old and tired
If Giulliani can tell Arafat to stay home, I'm sure Egan can do the same with Kerry. It's not whether or not he can make him stay home; it's the implied meaning by having a Prince of the RCC upholding The Gospel of Life and leading by example.

"you pro-lifers" makes one's blood boil
19 posted on 04/26/2004 2:03:28 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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