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Vatican says no to communion for pro-abortion politicians
Rome News Tribune ^
| 4-23-04
| Victor Simpson
Posted on 04/23/2004 8:22:53 AM PDT by flying Elvis
(excepterd)
VATICAN CITY A top Vatican cardinal said today that priests must deny communion to pro-abortion Catholic politicians, but would not comment on the pro-abortion stand of Catholic presidential candidate John Kerry.
Cardinal Francis Arinze spoke during a press conference to launch a new Vatican directive clamping down on liturgical abuses in Mass which bars lay people from giving sermons, non-Catholics from taking communion and rites of other religions from being introduced in the service.
The document restated Church teaching that anyone who knows he is in grave sin must go to confession before taking communion.
Arinze was asked whether that meant that Kerry should not request or be given communion for his unapologetic support of human rights, including a womans right to abortion.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholicpoliticians; communion; election2004; kerry
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To: oldironsides
I agree...I just don't think the priests and lay persons should be responsible...it definitely should be the candidate.
61
posted on
04/24/2004 8:18:58 AM PDT
by
stuartcr
To: flying Elvis
Amnericans Catholics who support abortion like American Anglicans who support various homosexual activities are no longer Catholic or Anglican.
62
posted on
04/24/2004 8:22:46 AM PDT
by
bert
(Save People.... Kill Terrorists)
To: flying Elvis
A top Vatican cardinal said today that priests must deny communion to pro-abortion Catholic politicians, but would not comment on the pro-abortion stand of Catholic presidential candidate John Kerry. Hmm, not that I don't approve of any slap down of Kerry and not that the Church hasn't always had a stance against abortion and politicians who run on their religion should abide by those rules, but the Vatican dictating to our government officials isn't going to sit well with the general public. If the Vatican wasn't interfering with our government, the decree would have been directed at all Catholics no matter their profession.
To: flying Elvis; MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...
From open email I recieved:
Dear Friends,
Now that the Vatican has made it clear, will bishop O'Malley
finally become a good shepherd and issue an edict that if
John Kerry presents himself for Holy Communion, he MUST
be refused?
If Bishop O'Malley allows Holy Communion knowingly to a
person in the state of mortal sin, both he and John Kerry are guilty of direct material cooperation in the sinful act.
Bishop O'Malley, would be especially guilty since the person receiving Communion would not be able to commit the sin of sacrilege without his direct help.
My view is that Bishop O'Malley and the rest of the American bishops with the exception of Archbishop Burke of St. Louis and Bishop Bruskewitz of Lincoln Nebraska will continue ignoring Canon Law and be silent on this issue.until after the elections in November.
They know that without the Catholic vote, child killing Kerry is dead meat and it would be the death knell of the Democratic Party.The Catholic pro-abortion politicians, who by the way, run the "Party of Death" have sold their souls to the devil for political gain and power.
We shall see if the bishops have also sold their souls now that the Vatican had to interpret Canon Law for them.
Would you believe that the American bishops had to call for a meeting to determine what to do with pro-abortion Catholic politicians. The even said they may not reach a conclusion until after the elections
Why, when it is in black and white in Canon Law 915, which a ten year old would have no problem understanding?
After awhile this affinity the bishops have with the "Party of Death" becomes sickening.
For once, I hope and pray the bishops put the lives of children first and politics last. Is this really asking too much from them when the Catholic pro-abortion politicians really should be excommunicated for their heresy?
Frank Joseph MD
DFjosephMD@aol.com www.hometown.aol.com/dfjoseph/abortion.html
64
posted on
04/24/2004 2:15:44 PM PDT
by
cpforlife.org
(The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
To: cpforlife.org
I think Kerry should be excommunicated.
65
posted on
04/24/2004 2:18:31 PM PDT
by
Pippin
(Each day is a gift from God. ---That's why it's called the PRESENT!)
To: bert
good!
Then as far as I'm concerned Kerry and Kennedy and others of thier ilk are not Catholic! PERIOD!
66
posted on
04/24/2004 2:19:57 PM PDT
by
Pippin
(Each day is a gift from God. ---That's why it's called the PRESENT!)
To: mtbopfuyn
I don't care!
Kerry and Kennedy et al are a slap in the face to all devout Catholics.
67
posted on
04/24/2004 2:21:27 PM PDT
by
Pippin
(Each day is a gift from God. ---That's why it's called the PRESENT!)
To: cpforlife.org
Would you believe that the American bishops had to call for a meeting to determine what to do with pro-abortion Catholic politicians. They even said they may not reach a conclusion until after the elections Unbelievable! I Just hope that bishop O'Malley issues an edict that refuses to give Holy Communion to Kerry if he decides to take it. But for some reason, I pretty much doubt this would happen.
68
posted on
04/24/2004 2:36:43 PM PDT
by
Victoria Delsoul
(Kerry said he wasn't at the '71 plot-to-kill meeting, then, he was but voted NO, now he can't recall)
To: cpforlife.org
I don't know how it could be made any more clear........unless one has trouble with the meaning of "is".
To: cpforlife.org
"Would you believe that the American bishops had to call for a meeting to determine what to do with pro-abortion Catholic politicians."Yes.
"They even said they may not reach a conclusion until after the elections."
How convenient!
70
posted on
04/24/2004 4:52:59 PM PDT
by
TOUGH STOUGH
(A vote for president Bush IS a vote for principle.)
To: cpforlife.org
This is a negative letter,a Doctor worte ,what is your point.
71
posted on
04/24/2004 5:39:54 PM PDT
by
fatima
(My Granddaughter Karen is Home-WOOHOO We unite with all our troops and send our love-)
To: Pippin
"I think Kerry should be excommunicated."
Agreed 100%!!!
72
posted on
04/24/2004 6:20:53 PM PDT
by
cpforlife.org
(The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
To: cpforlife.org
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that.
73
posted on
04/24/2004 6:22:16 PM PDT
by
Pippin
(Each day is a gift from God. ---That's why it's called the PRESENT!)
To: fatima
The point was that the US bishops have not given cause for us to have much hope that they will change and do the right thing.
74
posted on
04/24/2004 6:24:28 PM PDT
by
cpforlife.org
(The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
To: cpforlife.org
Why not,They have the answer.
75
posted on
04/24/2004 6:27:57 PM PDT
by
fatima
(My Granddaughter Karen is Home-WOOHOO We unite with all our troops and send our love-)
To: fatima
Indeed, they do have the answer.
The answer has been the same since forever and every bishop absolutely knows that Kerry & Co. should always and everywhere be denied Holy Communion. But so far only 2 bishops out of some 200 have taken the correct position.
I hope and pray Archbishop O'Malley does what's right and formally condemns Kerry for being Pro-Baby-murder/gay-marriage etc. and forbids him from receiving.
We will see.
76
posted on
04/24/2004 7:33:56 PM PDT
by
cpforlife.org
(The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
To: cpforlife.org
A bishop does not over rule a Cardinal, does he? Cardinal McCarrick already said that Kerry could have Communion, and that his soul was not the churches business---right? The question is, if the Cardinal will be in trouble from the Pope?
I am not Catholic. But, I believe that there is some kind of curse that goes with accepting the host when you are a sinner....no?
77
posted on
04/24/2004 8:28:14 PM PDT
by
tuckrdout
(Terri Schindler (Schiavo) deserves to have her wishes honored: Give her a DIVORCE!)
To: tuckrdout
"Cardinal McCarrick already said that Kerry could have Communion, and that his soul was not the churches business---right?"
Sadly that was Klinton spin. The first and always primary business the Church has is the care of souls.
Technically, a bishop is answerable only to the Pope.
Kerry lives in the jurisdiction of Archbishop O'Malley (Boston). And so it is Archbishop O'Malley's direct obligation to correct this wayward member of his flock. Kerry MUST NOT receive and all ministers MUST deny him Communion, this teaching is as old as the Apostles, yet todays clergy are more politician and less shepherd.
78
posted on
04/24/2004 8:44:18 PM PDT
by
cpforlife.org
(The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
To: Pippin
79
posted on
04/24/2004 10:47:18 PM PDT
by
Coleus
(Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
To: Lovergirl
Add me, please? Thank you. You betcha, and you're welcome!
80
posted on
04/25/2004 8:02:45 AM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(Dwight Eisenhower: "I will go to Korea." John F. Kerry: "I will go to Paris.")
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