Vatican says no to communion for pro-abortion politicians

Rome News Tribune ^ | 4-23-04 | Victor Simpson

[stuartcr]

I agree...I just don't think the priests and lay persons should be responsible...it definitely should be the candidate.

[bert]

Amnericans Catholics who support abortion like American Anglicans who support various homosexual activities are no longer Catholic or Anglican.

[mtbopfuyn]

A top Vatican cardinal said today that priests must deny communion to pro-abortion Catholic politicians, but would not comment on the pro-abortion stand of Catholic presidential candidate John Kerry.

Hmm, not that I don't approve of any slap down of Kerry and not that the Church hasn't always had a stance against abortion and politicians who run on their religion should abide by those rules, but the Vatican dictating to our government officials isn't going to sit well with the general public. If the Vatican wasn't interfering with our government, the decree would have been directed at all Catholics no matter their profession.

[cpforlife.org]

From open email I recieved:

Dear Friends,

Now that the Vatican has made it clear, will bishop O'Malley
finally become a good shepherd and issue an edict that if
John Kerry presents himself for Holy Communion, he MUST
be refused?

If Bishop O'Malley allows Holy Communion knowingly to a
person in the state of mortal sin, both he and John Kerry are guilty of direct material cooperation in the sinful act.

Bishop O'Malley, would be especially guilty since the person receiving Communion would not be able to commit the sin of sacrilege without his direct help.

My view is that Bishop O'Malley and the rest of the American bishops with the exception of Archbishop Burke of St. Louis and Bishop Bruskewitz of Lincoln Nebraska will continue ignoring Canon Law and be silent on this issue.until after the elections in November.

They know that without the Catholic vote, child killing Kerry is dead meat and it would be the death knell of the Democratic Party.The Catholic pro-abortion politicians, who by the way, run the "Party of Death" have sold their souls to the devil for political gain and power.

We shall see if the bishops have also sold their souls now that the Vatican had to interpret Canon Law for them.

Would you believe that the American bishops had to call for a meeting to determine what to do with pro-abortion Catholic politicians. The even said they may not reach a conclusion until after the elections

Why, when it is in black and white in Canon Law 915, which a ten year old would have no problem understanding?
After awhile this affinity the bishops have with the "Party of Death" becomes sickening.

For once, I hope and pray the bishops put the lives of children first and politics last. Is this really asking too much from them when the Catholic pro-abortion politicians really should be excommunicated for their heresy?


Frank Joseph MD

DFjosephMD@aol.com
www.hometown.aol.com/dfjoseph/abortion.html

[Pippin]

I think Kerry should be excommunicated.

[Pippin]

good!

Then as far as I'm concerned Kerry and Kennedy and others of thier ilk are not Catholic! PERIOD!

[Pippin]

I don't care!

Kerry and Kennedy et al are a slap in the face to all devout Catholics.

[Victoria Delsoul]

Would you believe that the American bishops had to call for a meeting to determine what to do with pro-abortion Catholic politicians. They even said they may not reach a conclusion until after the elections

Unbelievable! I Just hope that bishop O'Malley issues an edict that refuses to give Holy Communion to Kerry if he decides to take it. But for some reason, I pretty much doubt this would happen.

[TexasCowboy]

I don't know how it could be made any more clear........unless one has trouble with the meaning of "is".

[TOUGH STOUGH]

"Would you believe that the American bishops had to call for a meeting to determine what to do with pro-abortion Catholic politicians."

Yes.

"They even said they may not reach a conclusion until after the elections."

How convenient!

[fatima]

This is a negative letter,a Doctor worte ,what is your point.

[cpforlife.org]

"I think Kerry should be excommunicated."

Agreed 100%!!!

[Pippin]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that.

[cpforlife.org]

The point was that the US bishops have not given cause for us to have much hope that they will change and do the right thing.

[fatima]

Why not,They have the answer.

[cpforlife.org]

Indeed, they do have the answer.

The answer has been the same since forever and every bishop absolutely knows that Kerry & Co. should always and everywhere be denied Holy Communion. But so far only 2 bishops out of some 200 have taken the correct position.

I hope and pray Archbishop O'Malley does what's right and formally condemns Kerry for being Pro-Baby-murder/gay-marriage etc. and forbids him from receiving.

We will see.

[tuckrdout]

A bishop does not over rule a Cardinal, does he? Cardinal McCarrick already said that Kerry could have Communion, and that his soul was not the churches business---right? The question is, if the Cardinal will be in trouble from the Pope?

I am not Catholic. But, I believe that there is some kind of curse that goes with accepting the host when you are a sinner....no?

[cpforlife.org]

"Cardinal McCarrick already said that Kerry could have Communion, and that his soul was not the churches business---right?"

Sadly that was Klinton spin. The first and always primary business the Church has is the care of souls.

Technically, a bishop is answerable only to the Pope.

Kerry lives in the jurisdiction of Archbishop O'Malley (Boston). And so it is Archbishop O'Malley's direct obligation to correct this wayward member of his flock. Kerry MUST NOT receive and all ministers MUST deny him Communion, this teaching is as old as the Apostles, yet todays clergy are more politician and less shepherd.

[Coleus]

Excommunicate Kerry Website        Catholics Against Kerry

Sign Petition: To  Excommunicate Pro-Abortion Catholic Politicians       Herod's Heroes, Sign Petition

A Primer on Canon 915 Can. 915 Those upon whom the penalty of excommunication or interdict has been imposed or declared, and others who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin, are not to be admitted to holy communion

Canon Law and Abortion

The Gospel of Life--Evangelium Vitae

Kerry, Candidate and Catholic, Creates Uneasiness for Church

CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH
DOCTRINAL NOTE
on some questions regarding
The Participation of Catholics in Political Life

Living the Gospel of Life:
A Challenge to American Catholics
A Statement by the Catholic Bishops of the United States

Faithful Citizenship:
Civic Responsibility for a New Millennium

[Mr. Silverback]

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