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Pat Tillman killed in Afghanistan
MSNBC ^ | 04/23/2004

Posted on 04/23/2004 7:10:38 AM PDT by jtminton

Edited on 04/23/2004 7:24:22 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

Ex NFL Cardinal Pat Tillman has been killed in Afghanistan. Details unknown.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; arizonacardinal; arizonastate; army; fallen; fightingtillmans; hero; iraq; nfl; pattillman; ranger; soldier; somegaveall; thegreatestgift; tillman
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To: CDHart
There was a former Green Beret on Rush's show just now, talking about the media and their coverage -- he literally gave me goose bumps to hear him. Did anyone else hear him?

I heard him and I still have goose bumps. He explained what goes throught the minds of people like Tillman and the thousands and thousands of others who have offered their lives to protect our freedom. They are all heros in my mind, but the way Ranger Tillman walked away from fame and fortune as a pro athelete to pursue a career as a front line soldier in one of the most elite units to ever wear a uniform makes him extra extra special. I have a feelig that when the details of his death emerge, "hero" will be an understatement.

BTW, although I have often been a critic of Rush, he was at his absolute finest today. Kudos.

501 posted on 04/23/2004 12:26:40 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: jtminton
No offense intended at all to the family and friends of Pat Tillman, but- the more I read about and see this story, the angrier I am getting. Ok- this young man gave up his job to serve his country. He gave the ultimate sacrifice. Bravo, I salute him. But what about the other THOUSANDS of young men and women who also gave up the life they were living in the US, their family life, their jobs. Are we really going to elevate Tillman to a higher status of hero than them because he was a football player? They gave up the same sacrifices. They also go there to fight for this country, not knowing if they'll return. We should honor and respect them equally. Every person in Iraq and Afghanistan who gave their lives in service to this country should get the same respect and admiration that Tillman is getting right now. And sadly, I don't see it. Because they weren't "famous football players", I guess. And that's extremely sad in my opinion.
502 posted on 04/23/2004 12:27:20 PM PDT by richmwill
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To: threat matrix
There won't be another Super Bowl on the ASU campus. The Cards are getting a new stadium in Glendale, suburb of PHX.
503 posted on 04/23/2004 12:28:47 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: threat matrix
There won't be another Super Bowl on the ASU campus. The Cards are getting a new stadium in Glendale, suburb of PHX.
504 posted on 04/23/2004 12:28:56 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: Corporate Law
I have a friend that is (still) a Cardinals fan going back to Chicago, and he has nothing but vile things to say about the Bidwill family.

Most people in Arizona now have nothing but vile things to say about the Bidwells. Nice people, terrible businessmen.

505 posted on 04/23/2004 12:34:37 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: richmwill
I don't think anyone here is diminishing the sacrifices of others. Here is a man who could've "had it all" in terms of the American dream. He gave it all up to serve. His selflessness is admirable.
506 posted on 04/23/2004 12:35:00 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Jeff Head
I am at a loss for words. It is hard to believe I can be so affected by the death of someone I never met.

It must be because I respected him so much, due to his honor and value system.

Godspeed Pat, I wish that I had known you better.

507 posted on 04/23/2004 12:37:31 PM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: Labyrinthos
I agree -- Rush was better than usual today.

Carolyn

508 posted on 04/23/2004 12:38:36 PM PDT by CDHart
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To: richmwill
I understand how you feel, but I think you're wrong. Consider the words of John McCain (who, for the first time in a long time I agree with):

"I am heartbroken today by the news of Pat Tillman's death. The tragic loss of this extraordinary young man will seem a heavy blow to our nation's morale, as it is surely a grievous injury to his loved ones.

"Many American families have suffered the same terrible sacrifice that Pat's family must now bear, and the patriotism that their loved ones' exemplified is as fine and compelling as Pat's. But there is in Pat Tillman's example, in his unexpected choice of duty to his country over the riches and other comforts of celebrity, and in his humility, such an inspiration to all of us to reclaim the essential public-spiritedness of Americans that many of us, in low moments, had worried was no longer our common distinguishing trait.

"When Pat made his choice to leave the NFL and became an Army Ranger, he declined requests for interviews because he viewed his decision as no more patriotic than that of his less fortunate, less renowned countrymen who loved our country enough to volunteer to defend her in a time of peril. It is that first lesson of patriotism that we should reaffirm in our own lives as we celebrate the courageous life and mourn the heroic death of this most honorable American."

He will become the face of ALL of them.

509 posted on 04/23/2004 12:42:09 PM PDT by Warren_Piece (Fallujah != Iraq, Hollywood != America)
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To: valleygal
I have always wondered how they got the stadium approved. Surely, the Bidwills are not paying for it themselves?
510 posted on 04/23/2004 12:43:28 PM PDT by Corporate Law (<>< -- Xavier Basketball - Perennial Slayer of #1 Ranked Teams)
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To: richmwill
You are off base. Many of us here personally know troops in theater. Most do not. Most Americans do not have close friends or family in uniform and under the gun. Most have not had and will likely not have a close friend or family member KIA in this war. Pat Tillman, because of his celebrity, was known to all of us. His death is as close to home for most Americans as this will get.

No one here is diminishing the sacrifice of any other American in this war. Nor is anyone here holding Pat Tillman on a pedestal that he doesn't share with the other fallen. It is you who doesn't get it. The rest of us understand what is going on here.

511 posted on 04/23/2004 12:46:29 PM PDT by wtc911 (Europe without God plus islam = Eurabia)
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To: chookter
"I loved Tempe"

I was there at ASU in 96', and its probably more beautiful now than it was then. Couldn't get over how BIG the campus was. And the place was CLEAN! People were friendly too.

May God bless this fallen hero.

512 posted on 04/23/2004 12:48:38 PM PDT by Windsong (f7er)
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To: RightWingMama
Isn't that the truth! I've been misty eyed all morning..
513 posted on 04/23/2004 12:52:45 PM PDT by threat matrix
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To: BigSkyFreeper
There are no "sports heroes". Tough guys maybe. But, no game requires heroism at any level.
514 posted on 04/23/2004 12:53:40 PM PDT by wtc911 (Europe without God plus islam = Eurabia)
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To: Catspaw
"A seventh-round pick out of ASU in 1998, Tillman was a starter in the 2000-2001 and 2001-2002 seasons."

Good god..I wonder if he was there in 96. I could have actually shook hands with this guy and not even known who he was. Too bad we can't look into people's futures when we shake their hands..

515 posted on 04/23/2004 12:56:59 PM PDT by Windsong (f7er)
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To: Jeff Head
Thanks for the ping, Jeff. I don’t have time to read through this entire thread, so if I am being repetitious, please forgive.

There is no doubt that Pat Tillman sacrificed an enormous financial figure, and growing celebrity, in order to serve his country and the cause of human liberty. As opposed to so many sports ‘heroes,’ whose credentials for heroism consist of an accurate eye, quick reflexes, unusual strength, abnormal speed or endurance, etc. (all of which are generally handsomely remunerated in dollar figures and public adulation), this patriot walked away from all of that in order to defend liberty … and he gave up his life in the process. I have heard several times on my car radio today that joining the Army was something he had thought about for a long time … he felt he had lived a very comfortable life and in some way he needed to offer something beyond his sports abilities in return.

Gratitude and appreciation (to God and fellow man) is in short supply these days. In my opinion, not because of his prowess in sports, but because he placed his partially God-given gifts in their proper perspective, and sought to give as well as take, Tillman is indeed a true American hero. There aren’t enough such thankful givers these days.

At the same time, so many people are discussing the fact that he walked away from a lucrative $3+ million contract in order to serve his country. While that certainly is an unparalleled monetary sacrifice that not many of us would be willing to make, I can’t help but reflect on the fact that more than seven hundred American military men and women have met their death on Iraqi soil since March 2003, and more than a thousand have fallen in Afghanistan since October 2001. All of them were someone’s son or daughter. Most of them were sisters, brothers, husbands, wives, mothers and fathers. They all leave behind grieving parents, spouses, siblings, and often fatherless/motherless children. Tillman himself leaves behind a young wife of less than two years. Any talk of ‘financial sacrifice’ is dwarfed by the human sacrifice that has been offered by more than seventeen hundred courageous, dedicated Americans, each of whose loss has left a deep, painful, permanent void in the lives of dozens of loved ones, and an indescribable reverence for their selfless valor in the hearts of their countrymen.

In eternal terms, Tillman’s sacrifice was no more, or no less, than that of his seventeen hundred comrades who believed that the defense of liberty (of both their countrymen, and a struggling people half a world away) was worth the ultimate sacrifice – in many ways a uniquely American mindset.

In part, one of the ways we can repay their sacrifice is to not allow those who have no comprehension of sacrifice for liberty/country to dissuade us from staying the course that seventeen hundred of our own were following when they fell.

God bless them all, and strengthen and comfort those they leave behind.

~ joanie

516 posted on 04/23/2004 12:57:21 PM PDT by joanie-f (All that we know and love depends on three simple things: sunlight, soil, and the fact that it rains)
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To: threat matrix
I agree, scholarship is a great idea. For those who serve others.
517 posted on 04/23/2004 12:59:08 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: wtc911
Pat Tillman gave a face and a story to all of the heros who have fallen and not just in this war. This giant of a man gave it all and his sacrifices and death lift the lives and gives a story to those still serving and those who have died to protect our freedom. His life is a story that we needed in this time and will serve us in years and wars yet to be fought.
518 posted on 04/23/2004 12:59:22 PM PDT by Toespi (,)
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To: goldensky
Why, oh why do people like Pat Tillman and Barbara Olsen die and losers like Al Franken and Jeaneane Garofalo live. I'll never understand


Because heros like Tillman don't just walk around begging others to pay attention to themselves like spoiled children. They have strong enough beliefs and enough love for this country to fight and unfortunately at times die for those beliefs and that love. Franken is a coward who could never do what Tillman did. God seed Pat.
519 posted on 04/23/2004 1:02:27 PM PDT by Dr Snide (Rocking like Janet Reno)
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To: timpad
Your post #417 is great. I too think renaming Sun Devil stadium or naming the new Cards stadium after Tillman is unrealistic. But naming the field is another thing. And I still agree a scholarship in his name is a great idea.

520 posted on 04/23/2004 1:05:56 PM PDT by valleygal
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