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Has anyone seen mention of this fight anywhere else?
1 posted on 04/17/2004 4:57:18 PM PDT by Helvan
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To: Helvan
If you go to Google News
http://news.google.com/news?q=marines+killed&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&tab=nn&scoring=d

it looks like St. Louis Post Dispatch is ONLY source of this story so far.
2 posted on 04/17/2004 5:03:22 PM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Helvan
NO
3 posted on 04/17/2004 5:03:29 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Helvan
this town near the Syrian border

If the islamics want the fighting to cross the border of Syria, they should keep doing this.

4 posted on 04/17/2004 5:07:18 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: Helvan
Some other items can be found here.
5 posted on 04/17/2004 5:08:27 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Helvan
Not too many weeks ago this would have been "Breaking News." Guess things have changed.
7 posted on 04/17/2004 5:13:48 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Helvan
God bless those brave Marines.

Prayers up for their families.

10 posted on 04/17/2004 5:16:48 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Helvan
Where are the B-52s?
13 posted on 04/17/2004 5:19:44 PM PDT by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a Leftist with a word processor)
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To: Helvan
Syria is entering into the news more lately with the interrupted terror attack in Jordan and all.

This is going to get interesting pretty soon.

16 posted on 04/17/2004 5:25:14 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Helvan; RightWhale; archy
It appears "Ron Harris" is embeded at the Syrian border. Here's an earlier story by him:

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/News/World/EC976A67F58BE63186256E760014BF23?OpenDocument&Headline=Commemorating+the+life+of+a+comrade

HUSAYBAH, Iraq - Out here on the farthest reaches of the U.S. military effort in Iraq, they are calling it "The Silent War," the one where Marines are mortared and maimed, bombed and blown up, ambushed and killed, and almost nobody but they and their families know about it.

Out here on the western perimeter, a few hundred yards from the Syrian border, a battalion of Marines, spearheaded by the embattled Lima Company, has been fighting for nearly two months to forge stability on a piece of territory that the Army's 82nd Airborne carved out before them, also in relative anonymity. They don't make the headlines, not like those in Fallujah or Baghdad, but they still bleed and die, still mourn the loss of their comrades.

This week, they gathered to commemorate the lives and deaths of two of their brothers, Lance Cpl. Christopher Wasser and Lance Cpl. Elias Torres. Wasser was killed Thursday when insurgents detonated a roadside bomb next to his vehicle. Torres died after a rocket-propelled grenade slammed into his vehicle during a late-night ambush on Friday.
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Out here, the 1,000-plus men and women of the 3rd Battalion, 7th Marines, under the command of Lt. Col. Matthew Lopez, work in relative obscurity. Their commander is Lt. Col Matthew Lopez, who jokingly calls himself "a Mexican from Chicago" and who is credited with working wonders in turning around the town of Karbala last year.

Now he and his Marines are trying to create the same sort of turnaround in Al Qaim, a region about the size of Bermuda with 230,000 residents located in the Al Anbar province. Al Qaim is populated largely by Sunni Muslims, many of whom prospered under Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. It's a much nastier place.

"Karbala was a lot safer," said Lance Cpl. Craig Carp, 20, of Celina, Tenn., and a close friend of Wasser. "This is a hellhole."

At the "tip of the spear" is Lima Company, nearly 200 Marines who are taking the brunt of the action. The unit is headed by Capt. Rich Gannon, a slight, soft-spoken Marine whose men describe him as "tough as a $2 steak."

The battalion's No. 1 mission is civil affairs - building schools, improving roads, fixing sewers, cleaning up trash, repairing soccer fields, installing lighting, developing a police force.

But in Lima Company's area of operation, those things have been put on the back burner. They are in a fight.

Since arriving in late February and taking over eight buildings that had once been a trading post between Syria and Iraq, the unit has been bombed and mortared almost incessantly. On one night, they counted more than 20 mortar rounds fired into their area. Three Marines have been killed and nearly 40 members of Lima have been wounded.

"Make no mistake about it, we're here in a battle," Gannon told the men of Weapons Platoon during a meeting last week. "I want you to go out and paint a school, like we did before. But right now, we're going to go out and kill some people, because there is some killing that needs to be done."

Gannon was surprised when he saw the heavy casualty reports from the 82nd Airborne, which had been there before the Marines.

"I was, like, 'Whoa, why haven't we been reading about this?'" he said while sitting in the small office that is his command center. "What's been going on here? Have they been having some kind of silent war? And, sure enough, they had been."

..."We've had more contact here in a week than we did in the entire first phase of the war," said Lt. Isaac Moore of Wasilla, Alaska, who fought with Lima last year and now is with Weapons Company.

Cpl. Matt Nale, 32, of Seattle, said he has seen it all, from mines to bombs to small-arms fire.

"I don't think there's a day that we've been out that we haven't been hit," he said.

Most of the injuries have been relatively minor. Fewer than 10 Marines have been taken out of commission.

"Still," said Navy Corpsman Justin Purviance of Denver, "if we keep getting wounded at the rate we're going, one of every three men in the unit will be injured before we get out of here."

All around the base, which is bounded by massive, 7-foot-tall barriers filled with sand, there are signs of enemy assaults. There are holes in the sand where mortars have fallen, a shrapnel-ridden makeshift toilet where one Marine was injured and the mess hall ceiling, which is pockmarked by holes from shrapnel that rained down on it one night.

"We wait every day thinking, who's going to be the next person who's going to be hit?" said Lance Cpl. Richard Laventer, 22, of Old Fort, N.C. "It's a shame that I've actually been practicing my Medivac request to make sure that I've got it right when we get hit."

It seems almost every Marine here has a story to tell.
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The Marines know that their fight is largely underreported, far away from where most media concentrate.

"It's like, we're out here in the middle of the desert on our own," said Lance Cpl. Mischu Brady, 22, of Boise, Idaho.

"I guarantee you that people don't understand what we're going through," said Lt. Dan Carroll, 27, of Sugarland, Texas. "Sometimes, you walk right by a bomb, and there's just nobody there to push the button."
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20 posted on 04/17/2004 5:31:59 PM PDT by Shermy
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Rest in peace beloved soldiers. Prayers for their loved ones.....
22 posted on 04/17/2004 5:42:48 PM PDT by Reborn
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To: Helvan
It's too far from the bars in the green zone of Baghdad for the intrepid media to cover it.

God bless our men.

23 posted on 04/17/2004 5:51:41 PM PDT by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: Helvan
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26 posted on 04/17/2004 5:54:32 PM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (~ Vote for George W. Bush for Reelection in November! ~)
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To: Helvan
Hmmm..and NO MENTION of iraqi muslim extremisty murdering pig casualties either?

Gee---whose side are 'american' reporters on?

Same sides as ...
Carter --- Cuba - communist Ecuador - U.N.
Kerry --- North Vietnam - France - U.N.
Ramsey Clark - North Vietnam - Frnace - U.N.
Lyndon La Rouche - France - Iraq - Russia - U.N.
Bill Clinton - Osama - Muslim Extremist in Bosnia - Monica
Hillary Clinton - Every Anti-American in the world
Gen Clark - Bosnian muslim drug lords - U.N. - Iraq - France

Add them all up - all of the 'leaders' of the democrat party have all been close friends of America's enemies since the 1960's - communist party back then and now they are in bed (probably literally) now with the murdering islamic terrorists.

They will snuggle up to anyone who will help DESTROY our country. It is time they are brough to justice - each and every one of them!


31 posted on 04/17/2004 6:17:15 PM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: Helvan
I think it's time to go back to shock and awe - and lots of enemy deaths.
35 posted on 04/17/2004 6:27:45 PM PDT by livius
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To: Helvan
God rest the souls of these brave soldiers, and God comfort their comrades and loved ones.

I have said it before and will do so again now...the solution to the type of atrocity and resistance that Fallujah and other places in Iraq have recently seen, as small a minority as they are of the whole of Iraqis, is direct and brutal for the combatants and those providing them sanctuary and support.

To whit:

  1. Pull our troops back to the perimeter around Fallujah.
  2. Inform the inhabitants and fighters that negotiations are over and that they have 24 hours to evacuate any male under the age of 13 and over the age of 65 and woman and children.
  3. Inform them that the death or injury of any who are held against their will or who elect to remain will be on the heads of the militants and tell them this up front...no bones about it, no further negotiations.
  4. Process those electing to leave the city through checkpoints looking for any known resistors. Hold any of those who are armed or trying to escape for indefinite internment and intense interrogation.
  5. Offer the same 24 hour period to any male between 13 and 64 who wants to surrender and direct them to a different location. Those showing up there without weapons are subject to indefinite internment and intense interrogation.
  6. Armed resistors are killed on site.
  7. After 24 hours, use MOAB and ARLITE bombing to level the entire place.
  8. Then send in one hundred D-9 Cats to level out the rubble with enough dirt and top soil to effectively bury the dead.
  9. Salt the ground and soak it with swine fat and place a sign there in the middle of what is left that reads.

"Here stood Fallujah and the barbarians who once took refuge within. May the ghostly presence of those who committed atrocities against the United States of America and the Coalition Authority serve as a warning to others who considering the same.

Now there remains nothing here but pig fat and salt.

To all the innocent whom were allowed to escape we say...De Oppresso Liber. To all those barbarians who chose to fight we say...Sic Simper Tyranus".

IMHO, at this juncture, this is all the miltant Islamics will understand...anything short of this will be viewed as weakness and subject us to continued and increased attacks.

Jeff
Author of, The Dragon's Fury Novel Series.
A techno-thriuller series about America and the next World War

38 posted on 04/17/2004 7:15:30 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Helvan
I'm having trouble accepting the way we are "fighting" this war.

Something has happened at the military and political highest levels on our side.

Something's not right in the way we are fighting this now.

53 posted on 04/17/2004 7:36:59 PM PDT by gitmogrunt (God Bless Our Troops.)
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Six Marines were killed and scores of insurgent Iraqis slain

Hmmm.... Needs to be more than "scores".

54 posted on 04/17/2004 7:41:22 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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At least nine Marines were injured and about 20 Iraqis captured

"Captured"? I don't like "captured".

55 posted on 04/17/2004 7:42:27 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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57 posted on 04/17/2004 7:44:51 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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from my mouth to the Lord's ears'godspeed my brothers!
may you all be part of God's legion.
semper fi!
rev13v10
he who leads into captivity shall go into captivity,he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword.
here is the patience and faith of the saints.
72 posted on 04/17/2004 7:57:24 PM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 (saved by GRACE and GRACE alone)
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