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LAW OF THE LAND (Will you wake up to Islamic prayer call?)
World Net Daily ^ | April 15, 2004

Posted on 04/16/2004 12:52:31 PM PDT by Iron Matron

Posted: April 15, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

A holy war of sorts is heating up in a Detroit suburb, where members of the local Muslim community want loudspeakers on mosques to announce the Islamic call to prayer five times each day.

But the idea is running into opposition from other residents of Hamtramck, Mich., many of whom are Christian, who think the prayer calls as early as 6 a.m. and as late as 10 p.m. would be disruptive.

"When you call to prayer, you are proselytizing, and as a citizen of the United States I don't want to hear it," Bob Golen, 68, told the Detroit Free Press.

"It is not my God. My God is Jesus Christ," Caroline Zarski, 81, said. "I don't want this noise invading my home at 10 p.m."

The Al-Islah Islamic Center asked the city three months ago to alter its noise ordinance to allow the calls to prayer. In February, the council reportedly supported the change but sought a public hearing before making any change.

"We don't want to make it a big deal," said businessman Abdul Algazali, according to the Free Press. "It's a low-pitched voice. It's not going to wake up anybody."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: churchbells; detroit; islamicprayer; mosques; muslimamericans; muslims
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To: Iron Matron
Well, thanks for taking it so well

I definitely have a sense of humor, even when jokes are directed at me (if they're funny, like yours).

81 posted on 04/16/2004 2:08:04 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Blzbba
They are working on it and making huge progress. It may take a few more generations, but it is on the way unless a lot of trends change and change very fast.
82 posted on 04/16/2004 2:08:06 PM PDT by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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To: Iron Matron
You've done nothing wrong. There are some here who deserve bashing, but you're not among them.
83 posted on 04/16/2004 2:08:36 PM PDT by EggsAckley (......."I just wished I would have gotten my breasts a little larger."........)
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To: broadsword
This right here, folks, is proof positive that he has NOT read the Koran,

Have you? I have. Much of the good stuff is cribbed from the Bible.

84 posted on 04/16/2004 2:09:41 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Iron Matron
He has a bad case of PC.

Shame. It's a terrible thing for a man to be PC-whipped!
85 posted on 04/16/2004 2:10:17 PM PDT by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Yes, I have. If I am to believe your (literally) incredible claim that you have read the Koran and found it to be "100% peaceful" then the only possible conclusion is that you have a serious reading comprehension deficit.
86 posted on 04/16/2004 2:12:32 PM PDT by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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To: EggsAckley
You've done nothing wrong. There are some here who deserve bashing, but you're not among them.



Thanks! But I can get a bit "katty" sometimes and post before my mind changes or my nerves calm. If this happens, just give me a whollop, I'll fall back in line!
87 posted on 04/16/2004 2:13:23 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: rj45mis; antiRepublicrat
"Right, and they tell them they have to face NC and pray 5 times a day, and that all others who don't follow this requirement are infidels that need to be killed. Get a life, you immature jerk!"


Well, Oral Roberts once told his ignorant cult followers, er, Christians, that if he'd didn't get $1,000,000 by a certain date that God was gonna call him home.

He's still alive, I think.
88 posted on 04/16/2004 2:13:42 PM PDT by Blzbba
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To: rj45mis
I am a born again believer and I am not forced to say any of these things when I "choose" to pray.

Check out Matthew: "After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen."

89 posted on 04/16/2004 2:14:40 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Blzbba
"Well, Oral Roberts once told his ignorant cult followers, er, Christians, that if he'd didn't get $1,000,000 by a certain date that God was gonna call him home."

Many things have been said and done in the name of religion. I would rather be ignorant, naiive and RIGHT than ignorant, intelligent and WRONG!
90 posted on 04/16/2004 2:17:04 PM PDT by rj45mis
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To: Blzbba
He's still alive, I think.

But he lives at home right?

Seriously Oral Roberts is to Christianity what usama is to islam.
91 posted on 04/16/2004 2:18:21 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: Iron Matron
There were a few suggestions that you should do a search..because yours was a duplicate...just ignore them...they neede to get a life..
92 posted on 04/16/2004 2:19:54 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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To: rj45mis; Destro; Chronos; dsc; Land of the Irish
AND Oral Roberts, inane as he was, was not calling for the oppression of women or the sword point conversaion of all non-Christians.

Anyone who tries to morally equate the two is a moron.
93 posted on 04/16/2004 2:20:48 PM PDT by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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To: Monty22; antiRepublicrat
"You're such a 2 dimensional thinker. I mean what their message is. The death and destruction of anyone non-islamic, and this country itself.

Please, don't put that trash on this site again."


don't worry Monty. If you take the Coalition's death toll and the IDF's Palestinian death count and compare them to the Muslims, you'll see that the JewChristians are currently winning the body count. something like 35,000 to 4,000, since 9-11.

God must be pleased!
94 posted on 04/16/2004 2:22:47 PM PDT by Blzbba
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To: rj45mis
ignorant, intelligent and WRONG!

Sorry for the confusion..you're supposed to read my mind...not the words :-) An example is the professor at an elite university who obviously is intellectually gifted but yet so ignorant of the need to preserve our freedoms through fighting those attempting to take them away.
95 posted on 04/16/2004 2:22:54 PM PDT by rj45mis
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To: ken5050
There were a few suggestions that you should do a search..because yours was a duplicate...just ignore them...they neede to get a life..



There is a duplicate. But because I'm new, and did not "see" it, and was more intent on finding a link to the article, I failed to search FR. My Bad. See #2 for the link. I am suprised that this one has not been removed, and kind of pleased as well, as I think this subject needs discussion.
96 posted on 04/16/2004 2:24:41 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: Blzbba
"God must be pleased!"

Pleased with what? mankind's inability or unwillingness to live together in peace? You need to find your soul, my man!
97 posted on 04/16/2004 2:25:09 PM PDT by rj45mis
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To: Iron Matron
"Seriously Oral Roberts is to Christianity what usama is to islam."


Not quite, but close - yeah. I don't THINK Oral has advocated violence yet, but it wouldn't surprise me.
98 posted on 04/16/2004 2:25:16 PM PDT by Blzbba
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To: antiRepublicrat
"Translation: I'm all for freedom of religion as long as it's mine."

How do you figure? I certainly wouldnt want ANY "prayer/chant" booming at me at 10:00pm or 6:00am...I dont care what religion it is.
99 posted on 04/16/2004 2:26:09 PM PDT by FeliciaCat (Life is to short for ugly shoes.)
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To: Blzbba; Admin Moderator
don't worry Monty. If you take the Coalition's death toll and the IDF's Palestinian death count and compare them to the Muslims, you'll see that the JewChristians are currently winning the body count. something like 35,000 to 4,000, since 9-11.

God must be pleased!


So you morally equate the U.S.A. and its allies to the civilian murdering terrorists. Where do you live. It cannot be in the civilized world.
100 posted on 04/16/2004 2:31:59 PM PDT by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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