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GORELICK GATE: Gorelick Memo Exposes 'Feckless' Clinton Policy
Insight On The News ^ | April 13, 2004 | By Kenneth R. Timmerman

Posted on 04/14/2004 7:20:03 AM PDT by joinedafterattack

In a dramatic moment of his testimony before the 9/11 commission this afternoon, Attorney General John Ashcroft released a previously classified memo from 1995 that instructed the FBI and U.S. Attorneys around the country to ensure they had "walled off" overseas intelligence information from domestic crime-fighters. The separation between overseas intelligence gathering and domestic criminal prosecution has been widely criticized by both Democrats and Republicans on the committee for having helped make the 9/11 attacks possible.

"[T]he simple fact of Sept. 11 is this," Ashcroft testified: "We did not know an attack was coming because for nearly a decade our government had blinded itself to its enemies. Our agents were isolated by government-imposed walls, handcuffed by government-imposed restrictions, and starved for basic information technology. The old national intelligence system in place on Sept. 11 was destined to fail."

Ashcroft went on to explain the "wall" that had been erected between criminal investigators and intelligence agents was "the single greatest structural cause for Sept. 11 [successes by al-Qaeda]." He said, "Government erected this wall. Government buttressed this wall. And before Sept. 11, government was blinded by this wall."

Ashcroft then described the 1995 memo that initially established the wall, which later impeded the investigations of the 9/11 hijackers and their accomplices. When frustrated field agents complained to headquarters about it in August 2001, Justice replied: "'These are the rules.' ... But somebody did make these rules," Ashcroft said. "Someone built this wall."

Then the attorney general dropped his bombshell: "Although you understand the debilitating impact of the wall, I cannot imagine that the commission knew about this memorandum, so I have declassified it for you and the public to review. Full disclosure compels me to inform you that its author is a member of this commission."

The 1995 memo by then Deputy Attorney General Jamie S. Gorelick - now a member of the 9/11 commission - explains that the new rules dictated by the Clinton administration to separate criminal investigations from intelligence gathering "go beyond what is legally required." The Gorelick rules were meant to ensure that "no 'proactive' investigative efforts or technical coverages" of terrorist suspects be carried out on U.S. soil.

The result of the 1995 Gorelick rules, Ashcroft said, were devastating, and hampered the ability of U.S. intelligence agencies to communicate the identify of two of the 9/11 hijackers to law-enforcement agencies, even after they had entered the United States. That failure specifically contributed to 9/11.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911commission; aschcrofttestimony; ashcroft; gorelick; gorelickmemo; kennethrtimmerman
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To: Howlin
Dick Morris tends to be an all or nothing perverid type. But then you already knew that. But Morris is cetainly never dull - by design.
21 posted on 04/14/2004 9:20:16 PM PDT by Torie
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To: xkaydet65
Oh cut the class warrior stuff, even though I have indulged in it a bit myself (because I have character flaws), even though I am a Kean type in many ways. Maybe the women has done a good job on the commission, certainly better than the Dem attack dogs. Don't fall into the trap of being an attack dog yourself. It won't sell.
22 posted on 04/14/2004 9:24:01 PM PDT by Torie
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; devolve; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; onyx; ntnychik; Happy2BMe; MinuteGal
Per the Wall Street Journal 1995 book Whitewater it was Gorelick who "pulled Whitewater into main Justice to protect the First Lady".
23 posted on 04/14/2004 10:35:41 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
BUMP.
Exactly right.
The woman is a full-out Clinton lackey.
24 posted on 04/14/2004 10:40:15 PM PDT by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold)
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To: Howlin; Libloather; joinedafterattack
<< On H&C tonight, Dick Morris said that Jamie Gorelick was to blame for 9-11. >>

Of course he did.

He's the obscene toe-sucking slut-for-hire who outed Moanica to distract the world and the Independant Counsel from the enormity of the cli'ton crime family's treason, lying, looting, thieving, mass-murdering and co-serial rapes!

Why wouldn't he attempt to distract from cli'ton's responsibility insofar as the activities of bin-ladin and al-queda are concerned?

Better that the gormless ["Kenny G" Gorelick's sister? -- and -- the mind boggles] Gore-supporter, Gorelick, be dumped than any of the inner cli'ton gang ever be afforded the dignity of the consequences of his own actions!
25 posted on 04/14/2004 11:52:25 PM PDT by Brian Allen (Intact - Male - American - Republican - Pro-Bush - PRO-ISRAEL - Pro-War - Pro-Gun - Pro-Life! Next?)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; Grampa Dave; Alamo-Girl; LindaSOG; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Squantos; ...
Attorneys around the country to ensure they had "walled off" overseas intelligence information from domestic crime-fighters.... "Whenever BILL CLINTON was away, or out of town, HILLARY sat in the Oval Office" ... Now we know why...

Could it be they feared the people working in law enforcement and the military more than our true enemies? You know, the ones who swore to defend our Republic and its Constitution, the the ones who meant it?

26 posted on 04/15/2004 2:40:57 AM PDT by risk (Live free or die.)
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To: PhilDragoo
Per the Wall Street Journal 1995 book Whitewater it was Gorelick who "pulled Whitewater into main Justice to protect the First Lady".

...poor Gorelick (an $hrillary hack); she'll bring $hrillary's name back in the limelight...I expect to see Gorelick, lying dead, @ Fort Marcy Park soon...by the cannon, in an familiar spot.

27 posted on 04/15/2004 3:54:02 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: auboy
Look, the fundamental premise of the 911 commission - that we need a committee full of Democratic operatives and RINOs to tell us that the Republicans are just as much at fault for our insecurity as Democrats are - is ridiculous on its face.

What was the Church Committee? A bunch of Democrats dedicated to the proposition that Republicans were a danger to civil liberties.

What was that Gorelick memo about? Preventing the appearance of impropriety in the process of investigating terrorist threats.

If Gorelick is half as worried about the "appearance of impropriety" now as she was then, she'll get her sorry behind off the committee and into a witness chair in front of it.

And if the committee is half as worried about affixing responsibility to those who have authority as it is about getting a sound bite for John Kerry's political ambitions, it will report that the Gorelick wrote that memo after the first WTC bombing and that it unnecessarily hindered the investigation of terrorists. The Democrats look at that August PDB and proclaim that "Bush knew." They look at the Gorelick memo and the cat has their tongue.

The Gorelick memo is a smoking gun, nothing less.

28 posted on 04/15/2004 3:57:50 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (No one is as subjective as the person who knows he is objective.)
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To: Torie
Maybe the women has done a good job on the commission
Maybe you haven't read this line in the Gorelick memo:
These procedures, which go beyond what is legally required, will prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation.
It was Ashcroft and not Gorelick who revealed the memo to the committee; Ashcroft testified that failure to comply with this memo, requiring that the left hand of the FBI not know what the right hand was doing, was known as a "career ender" within the Bureau.

Gorelick's "profile in courage" memo cost four airliners, the twin towers, a wing of the Pentagon, and three thousand lives. Far more surely than anything else the committee is likely to find.

I await your explanation as to how the author of that memo could possibly be helping it find the truth if she did not disclose that memo while the committee was spending endless hours trying to find out the causes of the intelligence failure of 911.

29 posted on 04/15/2004 4:21:11 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (No one is as subjective as the person who knows he is objective.)
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To: joinedafterattack
The Gorelick rules were meant to ensure that "no 'proactive' investigative efforts or technical coverages" of terrorist suspects be carried out on U.S. soil.

The result of the 1995 Gorelick rules, Ashcroft said, were devastating, and hampered the ability of U.S. intelligence agencies to communicate the identify of two of the 9/11 hijackers to law-enforcement agencies, even after they had entered the United States. That failure specifically contributed to 9/11.

Well, well, well. How about Ms. GWhorelick getting off the 9/11 commission and in hot seat for a while. This should be consiered treason.

30 posted on 04/15/2004 4:38:11 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The only difference between Kerry and a broken clock is that a broken clock is right twice a day.)
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To: PhilDragoo; Liz; Howlin; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog
Per the Wall Street Journal 1995 book Whitewater it was Gorelick who "pulled Whitewater into main Justice to protect the First Lady".

What did Hillary know, and when did she know it? Its time to connect some dots...

31 posted on 04/15/2004 4:39:12 AM PDT by Libloather (Hillary, I want my FBI file back...)
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To: joinedafterattack
The only problem with Gorelick moving to the witness seat is that I can't think of a Republican commission member who isn't bewitched, bothered and befuddled who would ask the incisive questions of her.

This Gorelick scenario is prime evidence of how the appalling choices of GOP 911 commissioners is coming back to bite us you know where.

We're going to have to keep the pressure on this Clintonista woman ourselves, folks. Don't depend on the commission.

Thank God for the courage of John Ashcroft the other day. He didn't look at all recovered from his surgery yet, but he had the most steely look on his face as he forcefully came right out with the truth.

Leni

32 posted on 04/15/2004 4:59:02 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Paradise is not lost! You'll find it May 22 aboard "FReeps Ahoy 3". Register now for the cruise!)
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To: xkaydet65
If Kean's arrogance overwhelmed you then you have a lot to learn about the Bluebloods who feel they, not you, know what's best for you.

I went to high school with Hubert Green. Hubert came from "old money", but Dr. Green taught his sons well. There was not an arrogant bone in Hubert's body. He treated everyone with respect, including those of us from the other side of the tracks.

IME, arrogance is not limited to "bluebloods". Often, the biggest snobs are those with new found wealth. They suddenly become too good to breath the same air.

Maybe it was not Kean's arrogance than overwhelmed me. Maybe, it was the stupidity of telling the rest of us to butt out, on national TV. A sound bite he will rue. Kean assassinated his own character.

33 posted on 04/15/2004 5:03:05 AM PDT by auboy (The 9-11 Commission ain't worth a bucket of warm spit. Make that half a bucket.)
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To: joinedafterattack
I saw Gorelick and Slade Gorton last night with Hissy Matthews. Gorton was completely covering for Gorelick, saying she was the most valuable and bi-partisan member of the 911 Omission and warning everybody to "butt out" of the Omission's business. They have closed ranks behind her.

There is something more than "funny" going on here. This is a deliberate coverup of something much larger than 911, if that is possible.

Two questions concerning Gorelick that need to be answered:

1. How did she get on this Commission? She didn't just fall down from Heaven. Somebody wanted her there and put her there. Why?

2. Why did Gorelick institute the "wall" memorandum? Was she ordered to do it (and who ordered it) or did she do it on her own. Either way, there was a real motivation behind it. Get to the bottom of this and the 911 Omission will have the answer to it's questions on the "why" 911 happened,... not that it really wants to uncover any deep truths.

IMHO, this was a setup by the clintons to cover their criminality in other areas and prevent our own intelligence and investigative agencies from either connecting the dots or prosecuting their blatant criminality often disguised as incompetence. One need only start naming off events of those days to see why,... Waco, Whitewater, Mena Airport, Vince Foster, Oklahoma City, the Riadys, Charlie Trie, Johnny Chung, Wen ho Lee, the looting of Los Alamos secrets, Ron Brown, China money, LORAL, Livermore Labs and the loss of W-88 nuclear warhead designs, etc. etc., ... what was there that needed "covering up" in those days that required both eyes to be gouged from the FBI and CIA?

Looking for unconnected dots and and asking why the lines weren't connected? Well, there are lots of dots to connect, but no way to connect them if connecting them is prohibited. This was not a "unfortunate" slip-up. It was deliberate policy by deliberate people for deliberate reasons.

The fact terrorists finally slipped through the broken net and caused 911 is only a side and final result of the vast and sinister Clinton Legacy. The 911 dots all emanated from this, and the keystone of the plot has been outed by Ashcroft.

34 posted on 04/15/2004 5:14:22 AM PDT by Gritty ("Clinton’s failure to mobilize America after the 1993 WTC attack led directly to 9/11"-Dick Morris)
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To: Gritty
I commend you for your post. Well stated!
35 posted on 04/15/2004 5:54:39 AM PDT by auboy (The 9-11 Commission ain't worth a bucket of warm spit. Make that half a bucket.)
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To: Blue Highway; All
info@9-11commission.gov

This was my email; please write your own and send it along. Let's bury them in mail!

Subject: Consider Your Reputations

It's an absolute disgrace that you are not asking the 100% compromised Ms. Gorelick to resign from your panel, and instead to sit as a witness under oath for her part in the 9-11 disaster.

Your commission is becoming a national laughingstock. All of your personal reputations will wind up in the sewer with Ms. Gorelick's if you cannot bring yourselves to demand that she step down.

America is watching this travesty!

Signed

My Real Name,
San Diego
36 posted on 04/15/2004 7:22:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: risk
The Clinton administration is the most corrupt in our nation's history!

We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists, democrats and the mainstream media are sad ~ very sad!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

37 posted on 04/15/2004 7:33:44 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: auboy
Thanks.

You keep up the good work!

38 posted on 04/15/2004 8:02:04 AM PDT by Gritty ("Hillary is the godmother of the Clinton crime family"-Jim Robinson)
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To: Torie
Don't fall into the trap of being an attack dog yourself. It won't sell.

Your post makes no sense. What are you trying to say?

39 posted on 04/15/2004 8:08:52 AM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: Diogenesis

she must step down


40 posted on 04/15/2004 8:09:39 AM PDT by The Wizard (Democrats: enemies of America)
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