Posted on 04/10/2004 10:39:47 AM PDT by Tribune7
This Easter weekend, I answer one of the more disparaging questions I'm asked by secularists. That is: "How can a true scientist believe in the gospel message of Christ?" The answer begins with a proper definition of science.
Science is the study of nature through empirical evidence. A truly scientific theory, by definition, must be testable by repeatable observations or experiments. Yet there are many observations in nature that cannot be scientifically tested. Take the creation of the natural world.
As explained by the big-bang theory, all the matter and energy of the universe was compressed into a cosmic egg that inexplicably exploded. But nobody knows where the cosmic egg came from, or how it arrived. Neither has a single important prediction of this theory been confirmed. Even worse, it contradicts multiple principles, including the first and second laws of thermodynamics and the law of conservation of mass.
That means the big-bang theory is largely a faith-based idea.
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A. They get banned ten times or more and STILL come back to FR!
Other clues are those who exhibit the characterisitics of Truculent Evolution Denier syndrome (TED). TED is manifested by obsessive/compulsive behavior, such as signing up on FR under new names after having been banned for ignoring the owner's request to not spam threads with the same old moronic screeds when a link would have sufficed.
Additionally, TED, sufferers tend to be fixated on certain topics and are drawn to repetitious behavior, such as posting obnoxious anti-evo cartoons, posting psuedo-witty put-downs when they have no substantive rebuttal, being fascinated by all things Balkan, flinging anti-smoking and anti-SUV invective, and a tendency to show off their knowledge about bows & arrows and firearms. Other indicators of TED are preoccupation with Velikovskian nitwittery, Faces on Mars, Saturn hovering over the North Pole "reducing the felt effect of gravity," Halton Arp's long since discreditted alternative explanantions for Cosmological redshifts, and a child-like worship of the Wistar Symposium of 1966.
Be aware that there is no known cure for TED, but scientists continue to look for one....... hovering over the North pole, carried by a big mean-looking ASCII bat.
But we're Holden out for one...
Wouldn't that have produced even higher gravity in the Southern Hemisphere, not to mention Earth being captured as a moon of Saturn? Oh, well! Nobody said that stuff has to make sense.
...so I referred you the best-known source for the info: the Holy Bible. ...
the Catholic Encycopedia says "No direct or categorical and stringent proof of the dogma can be brought forward from Scripture."
It's actually one of those things that the Pope declared to be true (Pius IX, 1854)
Good thing I didn't look too hard for it!
Oh, the horror! What will FR do without Ted around to defend the "honor" of Milosevic, berate smokers and SUV owners, and kiss Halton Arp's rosie-redshifting @ss?
;-)
And doncha love the way they bring this stuff up for the 200th time as if they're unaware of any material rebutting their position? As if they think no one's heard this particular attempt to dazzle and befuddle before now? Creationists do this even when they're not sneaking back post-banning under a new name.
Yes, and it gets tiresome, but it's not all that bad. Some of them are bright, and they have the potential to learn. There's a huge difference between: (a) being misinformed, and therefore genuinely confused; and (b) being deranged, malevolent, hostile, venomous, and disruptive.
Those in the first group almost never get banned, at least not for their postings in these threads, although a few have challenged Jim Robinson in other threads and they're not with us any longer. Most of the second group sooner or later self-destruct, and find a home at websites with lower standards than this one.
Far be it for me to tell you to not argue with a guy who thinks parrots have psychic abilities, that Saturn once hovered over the North Pole, and that ASCII bats make great pets......
;-)
In other words they don't have an answer.
You can't say that wasn't enjoyable. Now we're stuck with word lawyers...
In other words they don't have an answer.
Don't quit your day job.
The statement is completely accurate, as you would know if you understood the theory and the associated mathematics. Don't attempt to render something into "other words" when you don't understand it in the first place.
Hmm, do you think that really could have been Ted? If so, it means I've been bonking the same guy on the head for almost TEN YEARS now. I've got posts in my archives of me correcting Ted in the Talk.Origins newsgroup as far back as August 1994 (and there may well have been some before that, since I didn't start archiving until many months after I started posting on the internet).
Yes, I really think so. But more importantly, the mods thought so, and they have ways of checking these things. So you've been pounding your head against the same wall for a very long time.
Now THAT was fun!
You will always have the pleasure of remembering that an idiot who thought the planets were all in "wildly elliptical" orbits proclaimed that you "don't know beans about astronomy." There can be no higher form of praise than that.
I especially enjoyed his follow-on blather that "a circle is not an ellipse!" That was good for many hours of joyful hilarity that could be shared with anyone who had taken Analytic Geometry in High School.
But in the end, I think we really couldn't take much more of that stuff; I don't know about you, but seeing such ripe nonsense "1720" times was more than enough for me....
No need to worry; like a dog to its own vomit, Ted will be back on FR to spew his peculiar notions in yet another incarnation (if he isn't here already!) This is about the tenth (or more) incarnation of his that has been banned since he was first tossed off FR for serial spamming of threads with his long-winded ASCII-bat closing screeds.
You've got to give him credit; the Clown Prince of Astrophysics is nothing if not tenacious.
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