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An Open letter to President Bush (End run vs. Outsourcing)
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Posted on 04/09/2004 12:22:04 PM PDT by Havoc

Dear Mr. President,

You don't know me, nor do I expect you to. But I'm one of those voices out here in the ether that actually did vote for you. I'm not one of those seminar caller types nor a Democrat pretending at being a republican to subvert the party faithful in dishonest fashion because their ideas aren't popular enough to win them anything. No, I'm a life-long republican who cherishes the memory of Ronald Reagan and who thought highly of you right up to the time you sunk a knife in my back economically.

Sir I understand it's a hard job being president. I also understand that in IT my job causes me to have to think on my feet and respond to an everchanging environment just to keep it. And while I was busting my behind for a company I happened to love doing a job I happened to love, you decided it's a good thing to do an endrun around equal protection and hand my job to a Mexican worker at 1/3 of the rate I'm being paid. Sir, Retail employees get paid more than that Full time and they're earning below the poverty level. The Job I hold for the moment requires a lot of hard work and problem solving skills, it requires good customer care skills, and it requires a long knowledge of Computers and software I didn't get from a degree but from practical experience.

I worked long and hard for years looking for the break that would get me in the door with my current employer. And I currently have a carreer with them. Or had, rather. I've worked for EDS for nearly 4 years. I will lose my job just short of that anniversary or just after it depending on how the breakdown happens.

I have a handicap that keeps me from driving a car. Not an official handicap, because it's so rare a problem that 1/2 of 1% of Americans have the condition so it doesn't rate being called what it is. I'm a blip on the screen. But, it means I have to live close to my employer and sometimes rely on others to help me get things done. I've lost everything and put my life back together 3 times in 15 years sir. And having just accomplished it again after 4 years with my employer, your policy has killed any protection I might have otherwise enjoyed from having my job destroyed by foriegn competition. And it puts me right back on the brink again. Sir, if I don't stand a chance of winning, it isn't competition - it's fish in a barrel. Where is my equal protection under the law?

The "competition" didn't get hired because of race or creed; but, because of national origin. They got hired because their cost of living is low enough that they can be paid sub-poverty wages to do my job. They are taking my job because they aren't constrained by the laws we have in this country to protect us and preserve our liberties. Lower cost of living, and no laws to constrain them. See, we used to have what was called ANTI-DUMPING laws on the books before Nafta to prevent the subversion of our economy by those who would attempt to compete on an unfair basis and put American firms out of business. We aren't a global economy, the globe is not the United States of America. They don't respect our rights, our Constitution, our laws or ourselves. The average citizen of the world might; but, we aren't dealing with them, we're dealing with the leaders who have their boots on the neck of the citizen of the world.

It seems today that I have to be a Mexican to get a fair shake in America. There are some 8 million of them here illegally as a tax on our system and working here taking jobs that Americans can do; but, which apparently, nobody wants to offer a fair wage for as long as they can get slave labor off the books. That isn't enough though. We need to employ More workers from Mexico, India, China.. As long as we're doing it, sire, why not be obvious and lets put Sally Struthers on the TV to advertise IT Jobs for the people under repressive regimes in africa who can live on 52 cents a day, "the price of a cup of coffee." I don't care what color their skin is, No citizen of the United states could live on that and shouldn't be asked to compete with it. It's too blatently obvious that it's unfair. And that seems to be why it's "good for us all".

Your policy sir. It's you on the tube telling me it's good for me to lose my job to a Mexican worker outside of our system and in a manner with which I cannot compete. There isn't a job comparable to it here that I can take to make up the difference cause those are being outsourced too. Outsourced. How about endran. Because sir, that is what is happening - it's an end run around our system - around our rights, our laws, our constitutional provisions and protections. Your policy has relieved me of my job without due process. It tied my hands before I had a chance to respond. And so many businesses are being forced to do the same thing, that I don't stand a chance any more than those earning 3 times what I do in the same field who have lost their jobs already and have had to take 11k a year Retail jobs just to eat while their houses go up for sale.

I don't have a degree. I don't get retraining. I just get to lose my job at the whim of your policies and will likely lose more than that in the end. You see, I bought a new home too - a year ago. This job made it possible for me to do that. And as with my Job, I had to get a huge break to be able to pull it off. I've been behind you and a cheerleader of yours since I first heard you speak. I understand that the tanking economy isn't your fault. I understand it isn't your fault we were attacked. I understand and agree with pretty much everything you've done to date, sir. This however is in my mind beyond sickening. It is a betrayal of myself, my coworkers and every other hard working IT worker, Auto worker, etc that has lost their job due to this. It is a betrayal by their government and their employer. And it's a distrust you've earned by subverting them and me. For me, it's not just my Government, it's my own party.

Now I've heard all the arguments for outsourcing and all the copout phrases about what we do about companies that have outsourced to the US. Tell me, sir, how many of them outsourced to do an endrun around their system of government, their constitution, their laws and their workers. How many of them outsourced to us to produce goods for their home market. That isn't an argument that flies with me in the face of doing an endrun around us. They've built plants in our land and are working within our market, within it's rules, within our laws, within the constraints of our constitution and are paying a competative wage. Our companies are doing the opposite. And any way you cut it, it is economic and constitutional tyranny. I'm not a single issue voter sir, until that single issue is my life and livelihood.. until members of my own party call me a robber and a thief for expecting to keep my job when I've worked my behind off to do so.

I did it right. I've busted my backside under an ever increasing workload, kept my promise to my employer and my client. Never missed a metric, never dropped the ball for either of them and have always exceeded expectation as a member of one of the best teams on this planet in my humble opinion. My job is gone not because we didn't produce and not because either couldn't afford it; but, because Mexicans work cheaper and don't have our protections, laws, rights or constitution. I have a strong work ethic and a loyalty to my company that even now makes me shudder to say a bad word about them. I have no illusions; but, I was raised that if you do your best it pays off. I know now that if you do your best, you get kicked in the teeth just as hard, and if you get ahead a little bit, the government will be there to kick you back down. I appreciate how hard your job is. Mine is pretty dang hard too. But how about you and everyone in government work for $600 a month from now on like the Mexican workers replacing us. How about you all work for the income you're forcing me into. If it's good for us, it should be good for you too. You, and all the ivory tower types in our party that hiss at me for being upset over losing my job and wanting to defend myself. How would that be, sir? I'd just as soon see little Tommy Daschle and Ted Kennedy go fly a kite as hear them spout one more offensive evil lie about you. But I'd just as soon, too, see you join them holding the string if you're gonna ruin me and tell me it's good for me. How about if we just outsource your jobs too - oh, wait, that would be unconstitutional too, wouldn't it.


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761 posted on 04/14/2004 11:53:01 PM PDT by Porterville (I will enter the liberal land with the Gramsci torch and burn down their house of cards.)
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To: XBob
Upton Sinclair was NOT the catalyst,nor the cynosure of the PURE FOOD AND DRUG ACTS. Neither did his book do anything much to the CBOT's ways of operating.

Congress passes laws and dear old Upton never did win a seat,Bob.

Not "everyone" worked for the railroads,oil business,etc., so claiming that all would have been in thrall of those " evil" Robber Barons, without good old Teddy R.,is hyperbolic, nauseating bloviating;not to mention revisionist history. And,in point of fact, men were still "serfs",well into the mid 20th century ( think coal miners ),which easily refutes your spurious statements.

Yes, your posts are rather yawn inducing, when they aren't hysterical laughter producing, from the laughably rotten,factless,error filled contents. ;^)

762 posted on 04/14/2004 11:54:43 PM PDT by nopardons (..)
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To: Porterville
And while you are doing what needs to be done he will still be posting these pitiful calls for sympathy. Good luck bro.
763 posted on 04/14/2004 11:56:06 PM PDT by Texasforever (God Bless And Keep Our Troops)
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To: Porterville
GREAT hat and your previous post was worth one of my rare BRAVOS ! :-)
764 posted on 04/14/2004 11:58:10 PM PDT by nopardons (..)
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To: Porterville
Tell that to the wife of my friend who died from emphasima because he couldn't breath.
765 posted on 04/15/2004 1:02:27 AM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob; Havoc
Tell that to the wife of my friend who died from emphasima because he couldn't breath.

Look, the guy is NOT dying and given his complete lack of knowledge of the disease it is likely he doesn't even have it. His entire tale stinks like fish. A lot of people die of emphysema every year and all over 60 years old. Look it up. He is 35. He only uses an inhaler and he says his last PFT was 4 years ago. That is crap, when diagnosed with the disease a pft is standard once a year. The guy is as phony as a 3 dollar bill.

766 posted on 04/15/2004 1:12:18 AM PDT by Texasforever (God Bless And Keep Our Troops)
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To: XBob
No the super capitalists do not want a command economy. Command economies don't give an opportunity for real competition or allow the business to expand as they wish, command economies are not capitalist in nature and have the exact opposite goal of capitalism.
767 posted on 04/15/2004 8:03:37 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: XBob
I support restrictions that will WORK. The anti-offshoring restriction protectionists demand won't work, at worst they'll make businesses go under, at best they'll make businesses setup legal fictions and won't slow down offshoring for a second.
768 posted on 04/15/2004 8:05:51 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: XBob
No I state that they have no DUTY and don't even touch on whether or not they should be regulated. Your basic problem in all this is that you don't know what the words we're working with mean. Here let me help:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=duty
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=regulation
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=restriction

See corporations have a DUTY to profit.
Government has a duty to REGULATE.
Regulations create RESTRICTIONS.

No one, no person or corporation, has a duty to be regulated or restricted. That doesn't mean there shouldn't be regulations, just that it's not the corporation's job to MAKE the regulations. That's the government's job. Seperation of duties is an important concept in the American republic.
769 posted on 04/15/2004 8:12:09 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: XBob
A pretty lame excuse, expecially considering you stayed up later than I did.

You're right it's going nowhere. But it's going nowhere because you refuse to understand the most basic concepts of business and law. And the liar here is YOU. You're not worth FR's time, you're a communist who hates freedom and the economic system that has given you the tools you use to whine and complain about it. Take a BUS101 class, you'll learn a lot.
770 posted on 04/15/2004 8:14:42 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: XBob; discostu; Petronski
If I remember correctly, The bad economy was caused by bad capitalists, kulaks (the only capitalists left in russia), who, in spite of a very bad and dangerous wheat mold, poisonsous, harvested their wheat and made it into bread, which ended up killing millions of people either from the bad wheat or from starvation.

Wow, this is a first. Stalin slaughtered the Kulaks, but they deserved it?

Did the Jews deserve it too? Just curious.

771 posted on 04/15/2004 11:17:31 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Quit yer whining)
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To: discostu; XBob; Havoc
No the super capitalists do not want a command economy. Command economies don't give an opportunity for real competition or allow the business to expand as they wish, command economies are not capitalist in nature and have the exact opposite goal of capitalism.

Yes, they most definitely do. Command economies mean executives don't have to worry about competition. They can come into the office at ten, have a two hour lunch, and leave at five. They can merge into the New Class and be polite and urbane and comfortable. They can insure that their children will be able to follow in their footsteps and have it easy because connections are more important than raw ability in command economies.

772 posted on 04/15/2004 1:48:51 PM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: Sam the Sham
It also means they're not in charge of their business decisions. The government tells them what to make, how to make it, how many to make and what to charge, and if nobody wants what you make that's just too bad. There's no room for innovation, there's no room for horizontal market expansion, there's no room for verticle market expansion, there's no room to be a business.

Which would you rather be CEO of: IBM or Amtrak? That's the difference between capitalism and command economy.
773 posted on 04/15/2004 1:59:30 PM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu
Which would you rather be CEO of: IBM or Amtrak? That's the difference between capitalism and command economy.

Bingo!! I think Willie Green is CEO of Amtrak, what do you think?

774 posted on 04/15/2004 2:35:05 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Quit yer whining)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
I htink he's Gomez Addams... and we all know what Gomez liked to do with his trains.
775 posted on 04/15/2004 2:37:38 PM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu
It's been so long. Did he crash them? Or blow them up?
776 posted on 04/15/2004 3:19:33 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Quit yer whining)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Both. first with model trains, put bits of explossives on them and ran them into each other, then he ran out of model trains and bought a railroad company, ran a line through a swamp. One of my favorite episodes.
777 posted on 04/15/2004 3:22:47 PM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu
Yeah, I vaguely remember explosions.
778 posted on 04/15/2004 3:24:22 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Quit yer whining)
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To: Texasforever
I didnt' say I was dying of it Texas. I said I have a terminal disease. A term which you then perverted by using the insurance definition of the term rather than the textbook definition. Beyond that, how I handle my medical affairs is my business. I tend to see the doc and let him tell me if there's anything new to worry about. He knows my charts. When I was in 6 months ago, they checked me and said I might consider breathing treatments but that it didn't look at the time as though it were really needed. You're not my doctor and as far as I'm concerned you can stuff it. If it becomes necessary to pour over my medical records to prove my case, I'm quite ready to have someone of authority do so. You don't merit such consideration. I misrepresented nothing. And since you can't stop me from talking about the issue I took up, you're going after me personally. Sounds vaguely familiar.
779 posted on 04/15/2004 5:16:44 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: Porterville
I'm not crying on anyone's shoulder - note the complete absence of me asking anyone to do anything for me specifically. Oh, missed that huh. If it all get's fixed it won't have any affect on me personally. Gee, wonder why he's talking then, huh. Maybe because he has a conviction that what's happening is wrong and he wants to try to do something about it - even if that means being savaged by a bunch of complete jackasses here...
780 posted on 04/15/2004 5:19:31 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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