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An Open letter to President Bush (End run vs. Outsourcing)
Me | Me

Posted on 04/09/2004 12:22:04 PM PDT by Havoc

Dear Mr. President,

You don't know me, nor do I expect you to. But I'm one of those voices out here in the ether that actually did vote for you. I'm not one of those seminar caller types nor a Democrat pretending at being a republican to subvert the party faithful in dishonest fashion because their ideas aren't popular enough to win them anything. No, I'm a life-long republican who cherishes the memory of Ronald Reagan and who thought highly of you right up to the time you sunk a knife in my back economically.

Sir I understand it's a hard job being president. I also understand that in IT my job causes me to have to think on my feet and respond to an everchanging environment just to keep it. And while I was busting my behind for a company I happened to love doing a job I happened to love, you decided it's a good thing to do an endrun around equal protection and hand my job to a Mexican worker at 1/3 of the rate I'm being paid. Sir, Retail employees get paid more than that Full time and they're earning below the poverty level. The Job I hold for the moment requires a lot of hard work and problem solving skills, it requires good customer care skills, and it requires a long knowledge of Computers and software I didn't get from a degree but from practical experience.

I worked long and hard for years looking for the break that would get me in the door with my current employer. And I currently have a carreer with them. Or had, rather. I've worked for EDS for nearly 4 years. I will lose my job just short of that anniversary or just after it depending on how the breakdown happens.

I have a handicap that keeps me from driving a car. Not an official handicap, because it's so rare a problem that 1/2 of 1% of Americans have the condition so it doesn't rate being called what it is. I'm a blip on the screen. But, it means I have to live close to my employer and sometimes rely on others to help me get things done. I've lost everything and put my life back together 3 times in 15 years sir. And having just accomplished it again after 4 years with my employer, your policy has killed any protection I might have otherwise enjoyed from having my job destroyed by foriegn competition. And it puts me right back on the brink again. Sir, if I don't stand a chance of winning, it isn't competition - it's fish in a barrel. Where is my equal protection under the law?

The "competition" didn't get hired because of race or creed; but, because of national origin. They got hired because their cost of living is low enough that they can be paid sub-poverty wages to do my job. They are taking my job because they aren't constrained by the laws we have in this country to protect us and preserve our liberties. Lower cost of living, and no laws to constrain them. See, we used to have what was called ANTI-DUMPING laws on the books before Nafta to prevent the subversion of our economy by those who would attempt to compete on an unfair basis and put American firms out of business. We aren't a global economy, the globe is not the United States of America. They don't respect our rights, our Constitution, our laws or ourselves. The average citizen of the world might; but, we aren't dealing with them, we're dealing with the leaders who have their boots on the neck of the citizen of the world.

It seems today that I have to be a Mexican to get a fair shake in America. There are some 8 million of them here illegally as a tax on our system and working here taking jobs that Americans can do; but, which apparently, nobody wants to offer a fair wage for as long as they can get slave labor off the books. That isn't enough though. We need to employ More workers from Mexico, India, China.. As long as we're doing it, sire, why not be obvious and lets put Sally Struthers on the TV to advertise IT Jobs for the people under repressive regimes in africa who can live on 52 cents a day, "the price of a cup of coffee." I don't care what color their skin is, No citizen of the United states could live on that and shouldn't be asked to compete with it. It's too blatently obvious that it's unfair. And that seems to be why it's "good for us all".

Your policy sir. It's you on the tube telling me it's good for me to lose my job to a Mexican worker outside of our system and in a manner with which I cannot compete. There isn't a job comparable to it here that I can take to make up the difference cause those are being outsourced too. Outsourced. How about endran. Because sir, that is what is happening - it's an end run around our system - around our rights, our laws, our constitutional provisions and protections. Your policy has relieved me of my job without due process. It tied my hands before I had a chance to respond. And so many businesses are being forced to do the same thing, that I don't stand a chance any more than those earning 3 times what I do in the same field who have lost their jobs already and have had to take 11k a year Retail jobs just to eat while their houses go up for sale.

I don't have a degree. I don't get retraining. I just get to lose my job at the whim of your policies and will likely lose more than that in the end. You see, I bought a new home too - a year ago. This job made it possible for me to do that. And as with my Job, I had to get a huge break to be able to pull it off. I've been behind you and a cheerleader of yours since I first heard you speak. I understand that the tanking economy isn't your fault. I understand it isn't your fault we were attacked. I understand and agree with pretty much everything you've done to date, sir. This however is in my mind beyond sickening. It is a betrayal of myself, my coworkers and every other hard working IT worker, Auto worker, etc that has lost their job due to this. It is a betrayal by their government and their employer. And it's a distrust you've earned by subverting them and me. For me, it's not just my Government, it's my own party.

Now I've heard all the arguments for outsourcing and all the copout phrases about what we do about companies that have outsourced to the US. Tell me, sir, how many of them outsourced to do an endrun around their system of government, their constitution, their laws and their workers. How many of them outsourced to us to produce goods for their home market. That isn't an argument that flies with me in the face of doing an endrun around us. They've built plants in our land and are working within our market, within it's rules, within our laws, within the constraints of our constitution and are paying a competative wage. Our companies are doing the opposite. And any way you cut it, it is economic and constitutional tyranny. I'm not a single issue voter sir, until that single issue is my life and livelihood.. until members of my own party call me a robber and a thief for expecting to keep my job when I've worked my behind off to do so.

I did it right. I've busted my backside under an ever increasing workload, kept my promise to my employer and my client. Never missed a metric, never dropped the ball for either of them and have always exceeded expectation as a member of one of the best teams on this planet in my humble opinion. My job is gone not because we didn't produce and not because either couldn't afford it; but, because Mexicans work cheaper and don't have our protections, laws, rights or constitution. I have a strong work ethic and a loyalty to my company that even now makes me shudder to say a bad word about them. I have no illusions; but, I was raised that if you do your best it pays off. I know now that if you do your best, you get kicked in the teeth just as hard, and if you get ahead a little bit, the government will be there to kick you back down. I appreciate how hard your job is. Mine is pretty dang hard too. But how about you and everyone in government work for $600 a month from now on like the Mexican workers replacing us. How about you all work for the income you're forcing me into. If it's good for us, it should be good for you too. You, and all the ivory tower types in our party that hiss at me for being upset over losing my job and wanting to defend myself. How would that be, sir? I'd just as soon see little Tommy Daschle and Ted Kennedy go fly a kite as hear them spout one more offensive evil lie about you. But I'd just as soon, too, see you join them holding the string if you're gonna ruin me and tell me it's good for me. How about if we just outsource your jobs too - oh, wait, that would be unconstitutional too, wouldn't it.


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KEYWORDS: bush; endrun; immigration; newslavery; outsourcing
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To: XBob
Unbridled capitalism is as unrealistic as big L libertarianism.
741 posted on 04/14/2004 9:46:10 PM PDT by cyborg (Frakenfreude Radio... look out belowwwwwwwwwww!)
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To: discostu
728 - You are pathetic.

I am getting tired of arguing with a lying fool, who will not argue decently. I am hanging up on you.

I am tired. Sorry I am disabled and don't have the energy I used to have any longer.

yes an excuse - but this crap is getting nowhere, and not worth my time.

742 posted on 04/14/2004 9:49:00 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
Sorry I am disabled and don't have the energy I used to have any longer.

By what?

743 posted on 04/14/2004 9:53:12 PM PDT by Texasforever (God Bless And Keep Our Troops)
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To: Texasforever
743- "By what?"

Oh no, I'm not going to do that. I know what youall do to the disabled - no ammo for your grist mills.

Suffice it to say I am a disabled Vet.
744 posted on 04/14/2004 11:00:42 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
LOL
745 posted on 04/14/2004 11:01:28 PM PDT by Texasforever (God Bless And Keep Our Troops)
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To: XBob
Are you "disabled" in the same way Havoc is " handicapped"?
746 posted on 04/14/2004 11:03:45 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: cyborg
741 - "Unbridled capitalism is as unrealistic as big L libertarianism."

Sorry, I must disagree.

It is very realistic and very dangerous. Read up on John D. Rockefeller and other monopolistic capitolists of his era, and read Upton Sinclair about what we would be eating.

Thank God we had Teddy Roosevelt, or we would all be powerless penniless serfs on their corporate plantations.
747 posted on 04/14/2004 11:08:28 PM PDT by XBob
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To: nopardons
746 - "Are you "disabled" in the same way Havoc is " handicapped"?"

No, I don't have emphasima. Now stick it.
748 posted on 04/14/2004 11:10:48 PM PDT by XBob
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To: Texasforever
Screw you and the horse you rode in on.
749 posted on 04/14/2004 11:15:10 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
Yawn.
750 posted on 04/14/2004 11:16:32 PM PDT by Texasforever (God Bless And Keep Our Troops)
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To: XBob
Well I just did a bit of research and the VA has linked Agent Orange exposure and Type 2 diabetes. I owe you an apology. Thanks for your sevice.
751 posted on 04/14/2004 11:23:36 PM PDT by Texasforever (God Bless And Keep Our Troops)
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To: XBob
That is NOT Havoc's "handicap";that's his illness.

It was a civil question, so why the incivil reply? I was attempting to give you an easy way of saying that you were for real and instead, you blew the chance completely. All you had to do was reply with one word,"NO",and that could have ended the other back and forth.

752 posted on 04/14/2004 11:25:02 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Texasforever
750 - " Texasforever (God Bless And Keep Our Troops) "

ROTFL
753 posted on 04/14/2004 11:31:39 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
Upton Sinclair was a muckraker and a bloody SOCIALIST."THE JUNGLE" et al, are FICTION and exaggerated,hyperbolic fiction at that.

The PURE FOOD AND DRUG LAWS are far more relevant, as to the quality of the food we eat, than any works of fiction.

Teddy Roosevelt,the "TRUST BUSTER",went after monopolies,but he didn't really do anything to keep workers from serfdom.

Facts matter, history shouldn't be revised by anyone,and less emotion and more facts would help your position. Too bad that you haven't managed to employ that tact.

754 posted on 04/14/2004 11:32:01 PM PDT by nopardons (..)
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To: XBob
See 751.
755 posted on 04/14/2004 11:34:42 PM PDT by Texasforever (God Bless And Keep Our Troops)
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To: nopardons
752 - "It was a civil question, so why the incivil reply?"

because it's late, I'm tired, I'm pissed at discostu's circular lies, claiming he supports a modicum of regulation over corporations when he doesnt, and I just got a an LOL from TF, and was not about to start another round of crap with you.
756 posted on 04/14/2004 11:39:28 PM PDT by XBob
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To: nopardons
754 - "The PURE FOOD AND DRUG LAWS are far more relevant, as to the quality of the food we eat, than any works of fiction."

And just how do you think those laws got passed? Upton Sinclair.

"Teddy Roosevelt,the "TRUST BUSTER",went after monopolies,but he didn't really do anything to keep workers from serfdom."

He sure did, he reigned in Rockefeller and the other monopolists, who would have had everyone in serfdom to their corporate monopolies.

yawn - as another said.
757 posted on 04/14/2004 11:43:20 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
So you looked a gifthorse in the mouth. Not all that bright an idea, no matter HOW tired and upset you are.

Helpful hint,Bob...go to bed,you're tired and posting more isn't going to help matters.

758 posted on 04/14/2004 11:43:58 PM PDT by nopardons (..)
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To: XBob
XBOB you have lived your life off of "evil corporations" or the government. You don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to biting the hands that feed you.
759 posted on 04/14/2004 11:45:21 PM PDT by Texasforever (God Bless And Keep Our Troops)
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To: Havoc
Weak... when you have no talent go find some... don't cry on my freakin' shoulder, I'm broke in two school programs since I've been laid off, I have a mortgage, car payment, and health insurance to worry about, my money runs out in June... I have no job... but I know I will get one... one way or another if I HAVE TO PICK CABBAGES... You are pathetic to put yourself ahead of the country, vote democrat, I certainly don't want you to try and break my resolve....WEAK!!!!
760 posted on 04/14/2004 11:50:54 PM PDT by Porterville (I will enter the liberal land with the Gramsci torch and burn down their house of cards.)
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