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An Open letter to President Bush (End run vs. Outsourcing)
Me | Me

Posted on 04/09/2004 12:22:04 PM PDT by Havoc

Dear Mr. President,

You don't know me, nor do I expect you to. But I'm one of those voices out here in the ether that actually did vote for you. I'm not one of those seminar caller types nor a Democrat pretending at being a republican to subvert the party faithful in dishonest fashion because their ideas aren't popular enough to win them anything. No, I'm a life-long republican who cherishes the memory of Ronald Reagan and who thought highly of you right up to the time you sunk a knife in my back economically.

Sir I understand it's a hard job being president. I also understand that in IT my job causes me to have to think on my feet and respond to an everchanging environment just to keep it. And while I was busting my behind for a company I happened to love doing a job I happened to love, you decided it's a good thing to do an endrun around equal protection and hand my job to a Mexican worker at 1/3 of the rate I'm being paid. Sir, Retail employees get paid more than that Full time and they're earning below the poverty level. The Job I hold for the moment requires a lot of hard work and problem solving skills, it requires good customer care skills, and it requires a long knowledge of Computers and software I didn't get from a degree but from practical experience.

I worked long and hard for years looking for the break that would get me in the door with my current employer. And I currently have a carreer with them. Or had, rather. I've worked for EDS for nearly 4 years. I will lose my job just short of that anniversary or just after it depending on how the breakdown happens.

I have a handicap that keeps me from driving a car. Not an official handicap, because it's so rare a problem that 1/2 of 1% of Americans have the condition so it doesn't rate being called what it is. I'm a blip on the screen. But, it means I have to live close to my employer and sometimes rely on others to help me get things done. I've lost everything and put my life back together 3 times in 15 years sir. And having just accomplished it again after 4 years with my employer, your policy has killed any protection I might have otherwise enjoyed from having my job destroyed by foriegn competition. And it puts me right back on the brink again. Sir, if I don't stand a chance of winning, it isn't competition - it's fish in a barrel. Where is my equal protection under the law?

The "competition" didn't get hired because of race or creed; but, because of national origin. They got hired because their cost of living is low enough that they can be paid sub-poverty wages to do my job. They are taking my job because they aren't constrained by the laws we have in this country to protect us and preserve our liberties. Lower cost of living, and no laws to constrain them. See, we used to have what was called ANTI-DUMPING laws on the books before Nafta to prevent the subversion of our economy by those who would attempt to compete on an unfair basis and put American firms out of business. We aren't a global economy, the globe is not the United States of America. They don't respect our rights, our Constitution, our laws or ourselves. The average citizen of the world might; but, we aren't dealing with them, we're dealing with the leaders who have their boots on the neck of the citizen of the world.

It seems today that I have to be a Mexican to get a fair shake in America. There are some 8 million of them here illegally as a tax on our system and working here taking jobs that Americans can do; but, which apparently, nobody wants to offer a fair wage for as long as they can get slave labor off the books. That isn't enough though. We need to employ More workers from Mexico, India, China.. As long as we're doing it, sire, why not be obvious and lets put Sally Struthers on the TV to advertise IT Jobs for the people under repressive regimes in africa who can live on 52 cents a day, "the price of a cup of coffee." I don't care what color their skin is, No citizen of the United states could live on that and shouldn't be asked to compete with it. It's too blatently obvious that it's unfair. And that seems to be why it's "good for us all".

Your policy sir. It's you on the tube telling me it's good for me to lose my job to a Mexican worker outside of our system and in a manner with which I cannot compete. There isn't a job comparable to it here that I can take to make up the difference cause those are being outsourced too. Outsourced. How about endran. Because sir, that is what is happening - it's an end run around our system - around our rights, our laws, our constitutional provisions and protections. Your policy has relieved me of my job without due process. It tied my hands before I had a chance to respond. And so many businesses are being forced to do the same thing, that I don't stand a chance any more than those earning 3 times what I do in the same field who have lost their jobs already and have had to take 11k a year Retail jobs just to eat while their houses go up for sale.

I don't have a degree. I don't get retraining. I just get to lose my job at the whim of your policies and will likely lose more than that in the end. You see, I bought a new home too - a year ago. This job made it possible for me to do that. And as with my Job, I had to get a huge break to be able to pull it off. I've been behind you and a cheerleader of yours since I first heard you speak. I understand that the tanking economy isn't your fault. I understand it isn't your fault we were attacked. I understand and agree with pretty much everything you've done to date, sir. This however is in my mind beyond sickening. It is a betrayal of myself, my coworkers and every other hard working IT worker, Auto worker, etc that has lost their job due to this. It is a betrayal by their government and their employer. And it's a distrust you've earned by subverting them and me. For me, it's not just my Government, it's my own party.

Now I've heard all the arguments for outsourcing and all the copout phrases about what we do about companies that have outsourced to the US. Tell me, sir, how many of them outsourced to do an endrun around their system of government, their constitution, their laws and their workers. How many of them outsourced to us to produce goods for their home market. That isn't an argument that flies with me in the face of doing an endrun around us. They've built plants in our land and are working within our market, within it's rules, within our laws, within the constraints of our constitution and are paying a competative wage. Our companies are doing the opposite. And any way you cut it, it is economic and constitutional tyranny. I'm not a single issue voter sir, until that single issue is my life and livelihood.. until members of my own party call me a robber and a thief for expecting to keep my job when I've worked my behind off to do so.

I did it right. I've busted my backside under an ever increasing workload, kept my promise to my employer and my client. Never missed a metric, never dropped the ball for either of them and have always exceeded expectation as a member of one of the best teams on this planet in my humble opinion. My job is gone not because we didn't produce and not because either couldn't afford it; but, because Mexicans work cheaper and don't have our protections, laws, rights or constitution. I have a strong work ethic and a loyalty to my company that even now makes me shudder to say a bad word about them. I have no illusions; but, I was raised that if you do your best it pays off. I know now that if you do your best, you get kicked in the teeth just as hard, and if you get ahead a little bit, the government will be there to kick you back down. I appreciate how hard your job is. Mine is pretty dang hard too. But how about you and everyone in government work for $600 a month from now on like the Mexican workers replacing us. How about you all work for the income you're forcing me into. If it's good for us, it should be good for you too. You, and all the ivory tower types in our party that hiss at me for being upset over losing my job and wanting to defend myself. How would that be, sir? I'd just as soon see little Tommy Daschle and Ted Kennedy go fly a kite as hear them spout one more offensive evil lie about you. But I'd just as soon, too, see you join them holding the string if you're gonna ruin me and tell me it's good for me. How about if we just outsource your jobs too - oh, wait, that would be unconstitutional too, wouldn't it.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bush; endrun; immigration; newslavery; outsourcing
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Do you think most means more than 50%?

Well, it did the last time I checked, at least.

And exactly what percentage is much?

An interesting question.

601 posted on 04/13/2004 4:06:20 PM PDT by Poohbah (Darkdrake Lives!)
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To: Havoc; discostu
We already know the disastrous impact of this theory.

Yeah, GDP went from $7 trillion to $9.6 trillion.

Employment went from 119 million to 137 million.

Wow what a disaster!!!

Come on Havoc, just because fact is a 4 letter word doesn't mean you should never use one.

602 posted on 04/13/2004 4:07:01 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Quit yer whining)
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To: discostu
Whistling past the graveyard is one thing. Whistling while walking down the railroad trasks om a trestle over a steep ravine ... another thing entirely.
603 posted on 04/13/2004 4:07:04 PM PDT by bvw
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To: discostu
Wrong, down here in reality, most people will tell you they are making less money, have lower end jobs, many part time, with little or no benefits. The 90s are over, plain and simple. I wont argue with you, as I speak to many people every day, and a very small percentage of the middle class is actually doing better today, as opposed to just 5 or so years ago. This are pretty tough.

Throw in massive outsourcing, and continue to add millions of illegal aliens to the labor pool, and it's a recipe for disaster.

604 posted on 04/13/2004 4:07:15 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: bvw
Bustling economies have always been a house of cards. It never has and never will take much to dump an economy in the toilet, showing that ours has weak spots that could take it down is nothing more than proving it is indeed an economy.
605 posted on 04/13/2004 4:09:29 PM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Nice figure fudging. That's why we had to create 350,000 jobs last month just to show zero growth.
606 posted on 04/13/2004 4:09:38 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Employment went from 119 million to 137 million.

And where are they working? Walmarts? Look, if you think this economy is going gang buster fine. You obviously have a political agenda to uphold.

The reality is for those in the middle class, it sucks!

607 posted on 04/13/2004 4:10:53 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Sorry down here in reality everybody I know is making at least as much as they were, more of us are working full time and more have benefits.

Got any stats to back this up. Anecdotes don't cut it. I talk to many people everyday and they all say the people you talk to are whiners, but that's just anecdotal so I don't actually believe them.
608 posted on 04/13/2004 4:11:09 PM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: Havoc
That's why we had to create 350,000 jobs last month just to show zero growth.

Wait, we created 350,000 jobs last month??

I thought we only lost jobs under NAFTA.

Still waiting for your fact, Havoc.

609 posted on 04/13/2004 4:11:53 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Quit yer whining)
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To: Havoc
350 thousand is .2% of 137 million. That would probably be why it showed zero growth, simple math. No figure fudging here, those are the REAL number that REALY prove that you don't know a damn thing about free trade, economics, math, or the English language. Your question has been answered repeated and you have been found wanting.
610 posted on 04/13/2004 4:13:35 PM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
And where are they working? Walmarts? Look, if you think this economy is going gang buster fine. You obviously have a political agenda to uphold.

Last time I checked, WalMart employed 1 million, not 18 million people. Yeah, my political agenda is to stop protectionist idiots from harming the economy.

The reality is for those in the middle class, it sucks!

Sorry your life sucks. You should talk to Havoc, his sucks worse than yours.

611 posted on 04/13/2004 4:14:23 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Quit yer whining)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Average real (inflation adjusted) wages are lower today than they were in 1972.
612 posted on 04/13/2004 4:15:42 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: discostu
Sorry down here in reality everybody I know is making at least as much as they were, more of us are working full time and more have benefits. Got any stats to back this up.

Yeah, brutal reality, not Wall Street stats.

Go for it, keep shouting how great this economy is. Be my guest.

613 posted on 04/13/2004 4:16:01 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
The reality is for those in the middle class, it sucks!

Sorry your life sucks.

More inaccurate statements. I didn't say my lifed sucked, I said the economy sucks for those in the middle class.

Your spin is making the earth's rotation speed up. Please stop.

614 posted on 04/13/2004 4:18:26 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I said the economy sucks for those in the middle class.

Wow, there's some hard data.

615 posted on 04/13/2004 4:20:24 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Quit yer whining)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Wow, there's some hard data.

Mine are based on folks that I speak with daily, not some government stats. Back to the Wall Street Journal for you.

616 posted on 04/13/2004 4:22:48 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
You're arguing with people who have demonstrated there are no ethical bounds to what they say or do; but, they seem to appreciate fear - none of them would take me up on an offer to come say all the things that have been said by free traitors on this thread in front of a crowd of UAW workers...
617 posted on 04/13/2004 4:23:18 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: Havoc; discostu; Poohbah
How does that saying go?

Cry Havoc (how appropriate) and let loose the dogs of whine.

618 posted on 04/13/2004 4:25:06 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Quit yer whining)
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To: discostu
Hmmm. Not a bad response.

Except ... let's take on your implied benefits of "free trade" (it ain't that at all, you see, for our partners aren't "free", etc, etc.). I say, and the facts support, that a great, if not the greatest part of any "boom" -- housing, retail sales aspect you may pick out is due to credit exansion -- not wealth build-up!

You can certainly prime the pump with credit to get a frozen economy started, but we are LONG LONG past that time.

We have all the borrowed comforts of the ante-bellum South,a faux-wealth built on slavery. It ruining to both sides of a "free-trade", or may I say "slave-trade" to be more accurate.

It ruins us, by bringing on the lazy and "entitled-by-mere-existance" mindsets of unearned and temporary material prosperty. It ruins the slave, a slave's mentality takes generations to throw off.

We have had Liberty, the super-sport, high-powered, model. We are "free-trading" it in to swarmy, smiling dealers for some "internationalist" model that runs like some under-powered Yugo.

619 posted on 04/13/2004 4:27:29 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Toddsterpatriot
OK, OK, Ok...If it will make you feel better, NAFTA, GATT, outsourcing millions of our jobs and companies, while illegal aliens pour into our job market by the millions is a good thing. Yesssireey, this economy is exploding, literally on fire, gang busters!
620 posted on 04/13/2004 4:27:47 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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