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An Open letter to President Bush (End run vs. Outsourcing)
Me | Me

Posted on 04/09/2004 12:22:04 PM PDT by Havoc

Dear Mr. President,

You don't know me, nor do I expect you to. But I'm one of those voices out here in the ether that actually did vote for you. I'm not one of those seminar caller types nor a Democrat pretending at being a republican to subvert the party faithful in dishonest fashion because their ideas aren't popular enough to win them anything. No, I'm a life-long republican who cherishes the memory of Ronald Reagan and who thought highly of you right up to the time you sunk a knife in my back economically.

Sir I understand it's a hard job being president. I also understand that in IT my job causes me to have to think on my feet and respond to an everchanging environment just to keep it. And while I was busting my behind for a company I happened to love doing a job I happened to love, you decided it's a good thing to do an endrun around equal protection and hand my job to a Mexican worker at 1/3 of the rate I'm being paid. Sir, Retail employees get paid more than that Full time and they're earning below the poverty level. The Job I hold for the moment requires a lot of hard work and problem solving skills, it requires good customer care skills, and it requires a long knowledge of Computers and software I didn't get from a degree but from practical experience.

I worked long and hard for years looking for the break that would get me in the door with my current employer. And I currently have a carreer with them. Or had, rather. I've worked for EDS for nearly 4 years. I will lose my job just short of that anniversary or just after it depending on how the breakdown happens.

I have a handicap that keeps me from driving a car. Not an official handicap, because it's so rare a problem that 1/2 of 1% of Americans have the condition so it doesn't rate being called what it is. I'm a blip on the screen. But, it means I have to live close to my employer and sometimes rely on others to help me get things done. I've lost everything and put my life back together 3 times in 15 years sir. And having just accomplished it again after 4 years with my employer, your policy has killed any protection I might have otherwise enjoyed from having my job destroyed by foriegn competition. And it puts me right back on the brink again. Sir, if I don't stand a chance of winning, it isn't competition - it's fish in a barrel. Where is my equal protection under the law?

The "competition" didn't get hired because of race or creed; but, because of national origin. They got hired because their cost of living is low enough that they can be paid sub-poverty wages to do my job. They are taking my job because they aren't constrained by the laws we have in this country to protect us and preserve our liberties. Lower cost of living, and no laws to constrain them. See, we used to have what was called ANTI-DUMPING laws on the books before Nafta to prevent the subversion of our economy by those who would attempt to compete on an unfair basis and put American firms out of business. We aren't a global economy, the globe is not the United States of America. They don't respect our rights, our Constitution, our laws or ourselves. The average citizen of the world might; but, we aren't dealing with them, we're dealing with the leaders who have their boots on the neck of the citizen of the world.

It seems today that I have to be a Mexican to get a fair shake in America. There are some 8 million of them here illegally as a tax on our system and working here taking jobs that Americans can do; but, which apparently, nobody wants to offer a fair wage for as long as they can get slave labor off the books. That isn't enough though. We need to employ More workers from Mexico, India, China.. As long as we're doing it, sire, why not be obvious and lets put Sally Struthers on the TV to advertise IT Jobs for the people under repressive regimes in africa who can live on 52 cents a day, "the price of a cup of coffee." I don't care what color their skin is, No citizen of the United states could live on that and shouldn't be asked to compete with it. It's too blatently obvious that it's unfair. And that seems to be why it's "good for us all".

Your policy sir. It's you on the tube telling me it's good for me to lose my job to a Mexican worker outside of our system and in a manner with which I cannot compete. There isn't a job comparable to it here that I can take to make up the difference cause those are being outsourced too. Outsourced. How about endran. Because sir, that is what is happening - it's an end run around our system - around our rights, our laws, our constitutional provisions and protections. Your policy has relieved me of my job without due process. It tied my hands before I had a chance to respond. And so many businesses are being forced to do the same thing, that I don't stand a chance any more than those earning 3 times what I do in the same field who have lost their jobs already and have had to take 11k a year Retail jobs just to eat while their houses go up for sale.

I don't have a degree. I don't get retraining. I just get to lose my job at the whim of your policies and will likely lose more than that in the end. You see, I bought a new home too - a year ago. This job made it possible for me to do that. And as with my Job, I had to get a huge break to be able to pull it off. I've been behind you and a cheerleader of yours since I first heard you speak. I understand that the tanking economy isn't your fault. I understand it isn't your fault we were attacked. I understand and agree with pretty much everything you've done to date, sir. This however is in my mind beyond sickening. It is a betrayal of myself, my coworkers and every other hard working IT worker, Auto worker, etc that has lost their job due to this. It is a betrayal by their government and their employer. And it's a distrust you've earned by subverting them and me. For me, it's not just my Government, it's my own party.

Now I've heard all the arguments for outsourcing and all the copout phrases about what we do about companies that have outsourced to the US. Tell me, sir, how many of them outsourced to do an endrun around their system of government, their constitution, their laws and their workers. How many of them outsourced to us to produce goods for their home market. That isn't an argument that flies with me in the face of doing an endrun around us. They've built plants in our land and are working within our market, within it's rules, within our laws, within the constraints of our constitution and are paying a competative wage. Our companies are doing the opposite. And any way you cut it, it is economic and constitutional tyranny. I'm not a single issue voter sir, until that single issue is my life and livelihood.. until members of my own party call me a robber and a thief for expecting to keep my job when I've worked my behind off to do so.

I did it right. I've busted my backside under an ever increasing workload, kept my promise to my employer and my client. Never missed a metric, never dropped the ball for either of them and have always exceeded expectation as a member of one of the best teams on this planet in my humble opinion. My job is gone not because we didn't produce and not because either couldn't afford it; but, because Mexicans work cheaper and don't have our protections, laws, rights or constitution. I have a strong work ethic and a loyalty to my company that even now makes me shudder to say a bad word about them. I have no illusions; but, I was raised that if you do your best it pays off. I know now that if you do your best, you get kicked in the teeth just as hard, and if you get ahead a little bit, the government will be there to kick you back down. I appreciate how hard your job is. Mine is pretty dang hard too. But how about you and everyone in government work for $600 a month from now on like the Mexican workers replacing us. How about you all work for the income you're forcing me into. If it's good for us, it should be good for you too. You, and all the ivory tower types in our party that hiss at me for being upset over losing my job and wanting to defend myself. How would that be, sir? I'd just as soon see little Tommy Daschle and Ted Kennedy go fly a kite as hear them spout one more offensive evil lie about you. But I'd just as soon, too, see you join them holding the string if you're gonna ruin me and tell me it's good for me. How about if we just outsource your jobs too - oh, wait, that would be unconstitutional too, wouldn't it.


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KEYWORDS: bush; endrun; immigration; newslavery; outsourcing
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To: ARCADIA
I think what you're saying is that some of my purchases will cost more. What I am saying is that my loan payment will cost less. No need to complicate the example past that point, because households cannot devalue currency, or print money. Why is everyone confusing macro with micro all of a sudden?
281 posted on 04/10/2004 8:10:33 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: XBob
You better try 'healing' your brain.
Dude. Name calling will not distract anyone from your demand for government handouts in the form of secure-for-life jobs because a global economy of free minds and free markets so frightens you.

Instead of demanding that daddy--er, our beloved federal government save you from your own ineptness why not attempt to update your job skills?
282 posted on 04/10/2004 8:10:43 PM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: Dat
You mean Marxists, don't you?

So - as Marx was a Free Trader, I guess so.

But I wish to deprive all our American Free Traitors of their jobs, and make them eat their own words.
283 posted on 04/10/2004 8:11:35 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
Please direct me to the post where I advocate currency-devaluation for the U.S., or any country for that matter.
284 posted on 04/10/2004 8:12:59 PM PDT by 1rudeboy (Russia! RUSSIA! It's all about Russia!)
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To: XBob
Wait a minute. Marx believed that free trade would hasten the struggle between the haves and the have-nots. That would be a fairly proper summation of your position as well. So how is it that your rhetorical opponents are Marxist?
285 posted on 04/10/2004 8:15:07 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Why would your loan payment cost less? If you have $25,000 in debt and make $50,000 a year; you are still going to have the same debt, and the same income rate.
286 posted on 04/10/2004 8:15:32 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: ironpuppy
But what if Japan, for example, restricts the outsourcing of jobs to the United States, and Americans working for Toyota and Honda start getting laid off?

This is the one that makes Sowell a non-contender in the intelligent (or honest) economist class...If Japan pulls out it's auto manufacturing plants, GM, and Ford will pick up the slack and hire those displaced workers...Those Japanese companies have a good market-share of the auto industry...When that's gone, it creates a void...Someone will pick up the market-share, won't they??? One would think Sowell would be embarassed to make a statement like this

287 posted on 04/10/2004 8:16:31 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ARCADIA; 1rudeboy
276 - "Free traders will tell us that additional manufacturing will be attracted by the lower dollars; but, that presumes that you have an expandable manufacturing base. As we have seen with Argentina and Mexico, currency devaluation does not always result in a manufacturing boom. No one wants to invest into an unstable political mess."

You are talking way above this poor boy's head. He doesn't have a clue, and doesn't know what has happened in the world. His teacher hasn't gotten past the first couple of chapters in his history book.
288 posted on 04/10/2004 8:16:50 PM PDT by XBob
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To: ARCADIA
If the U.S. issues a bond, and subsequently devalues its currency, then it will cost less for the U.S. to pay it off. I cannot make it any more simple than that.
289 posted on 04/10/2004 8:18:29 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: XBob
But apparently, I have read Marx, and you have not.
290 posted on 04/10/2004 8:19:06 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Iscool; All
279 - "You can't be pro globalist and pro American at the same time..."

bingo -

ping ping ping to all free traitors.
291 posted on 04/10/2004 8:20:01 PM PDT by XBob
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To: 1rudeboy
281 - "I think what you're saying is that some of my purchases will cost more. What I am saying is that my loan payment will cost less. "

Your FIRST loan will cost you less. And that will be your last one, as you will have no credit/credibility left.
292 posted on 04/10/2004 8:22:28 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
Good grief. What about gas prices?
293 posted on 04/10/2004 8:24:09 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Asclepius
282 "Instead of demanding that daddy--er, our beloved federal government save you from your own ineptness why not attempt to update your job skills?"

Which ones, which I already have, my truck driving, carpentry, electrical skills, or my teaching, military, purchasing, shipping, negotiating skills, computer/programming/systems analyst skills or which of my 3 degrees - 2 bachelors degrees and one masters - earned in response to changes over my career.

You see, I've been there - trying to keep up in the ever changing world of macro-econonomics.
294 posted on 04/10/2004 8:27:23 PM PDT by XBob
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To: 1rudeboy
284 - "Please direct me to the post where I advocate currency-devaluation for the U.S., or any country for that matter."


every post you make about about paying off your loan easier with devalued currency.
295 posted on 04/10/2004 8:31:04 PM PDT by XBob
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To: 1rudeboy
285 - "Marx believed that free trade would hasten the struggle between the haves and the have-nots. That would be a fairly proper summation of your position as well. So how is it that your rhetorical opponents are Marxist?"

The chaos you advocate creating, you marxist.
296 posted on 04/10/2004 8:32:33 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
You see, I've been there - trying to keep up in the ever changing world of macro-econonomics.
Cool. You must be doing well. The master electrician who rewired our basement a while back jkmmakes over US$200,000.00 a year even on semi-retirement. He's a Holocaust surviver on the board of a local modern Orthodox synogogue; he showed me his tatoo. The carpenter whose crew re-roofed our home drives a silver Lexus, and so does his daughter.

So you must be doing well. Good for you. What a great economy, wouldn't you say?
297 posted on 04/10/2004 8:34:24 PM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: 1rudeboy
Marx was right on that point and you need look no farther than this thread to see it. Marx predicted it would cause revolution - that would be blood shed. Need I say more.
298 posted on 04/10/2004 8:34:41 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: ARCADIA
286 - "If you have $25,000 in debt and make $50,000 a year; you are still going to have the same debt, and the same income rate."

Not if you are paid in Euro's, and you agree to pay back $50k, and it now your salary is worth $1.25 for each euro, it becomes easier to pay off as the dollar devalues against the euro.
299 posted on 04/10/2004 8:36:21 PM PDT by XBob
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To: Asclepius; XBob
You know what they say about assumption...
300 posted on 04/10/2004 8:37:38 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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