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More copyright complaints
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| April 8, 2004
| Jim Robinson
Posted on 04/08/2004 9:19:34 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
As most of you are aware, we've recently received several copyright complaints. In the last few weeks, we've received complaints from the SJ Mercury News, Independent (UK), SF Chronicle and The Boston Globe. Just a couple days ago the Post-Gazette send a cease and desist notice and yesterday I heard from the Tribune-Review.
Tonight, I got a call from Amy and there were two more registered letters at our PO Box. The McClatchy News (Sacramento Bee) and USAToday are now added to the list of publications that have complained about copyright violations.
Well, folks, the handwriting is on the wall. The complaints are now coming in faster than I can respond to them. John is currently in the process of writing programs to search out and automatically excerpt all existing threads from these sources.
I think we're gonna have to go to excerpt and link for all news sources very soon unless we have written permission on file.
TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1stammendment; 2004electionbias; adminlectureseries; bigmedia; bozos; ccrm; complaints; constitution; copyright; copyrightlaw; donotpostlist; excerpt; excerptingarticles; excerpts; fairuse; fr; freerepublic; freerepubliczotted; freespeech; frinthenews; lexicon; mediabias; silencingcritics; zot; zotfreerepublic
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
I know......it was just an example.
201
posted on
04/08/2004 10:43:01 PM PDT
by
Howlin
("NO OVERRIDING EXTERNAL THREATS" -Bill Clinton, 12/2000)
To: Chad Fairbanks
Wouldn't the ASCAP and BMI fees cover canned house music also? I don't know of any food/beverage establishment that doesn't have some form of music incorporated in their environment.
To: starboardlist
Run the article through an ebonics translator,Did you hear the bad news from the North Pole? Mrs. Claus has sued for divorce! Apparently she found out that for all these years now, when Santa was saying "HO! HO! HO!" to her, he was actually speaking in Ebonics.
To: ambrose
>>>The Liberty ComPost doesn't require excerpting, but I think all of two people in an Arkansas trailer park read that forum.
Those that do are delighted by this thread...socks-smoking whazoo apertures...
204
posted on
04/08/2004 10:43:19 PM PDT
by
Keith in Iowa
(Democrats are the real asses of evil.)
To: Publius6961; Jim Robinson
You got it.
We should just paraprase the living heck out of their stupid articles, being certain to note who the original writer was.
If the original writer doesn't like how s/he was paraphrased, too darn bad.
It's their tough luck, and their fault, if they don't like the turn of phrase we use.
To: giotto
Documenting and archiving is one of our arguments.
206
posted on
04/08/2004 10:43:45 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(Thank you all very much!!)
To: NormsRevenge
LOL
I like your droll (not troll) sense of humor.
WE have also been getting a few more pieces of mail from idiots that resort to calling us vulgar names. They do not have the vocabulary to tell us they do not agree with us so they resort to name calling. Guess it makes them feel superior.
If this is a coordinated effort, it may be from these same people.
207
posted on
04/08/2004 10:45:02 PM PDT
by
JustAmy
(God Bless our Troops! God Bless President Bush! God Bless America!!!)
To: Jim Robinson
Jim,
I do not think going to all excepted articles will be a problem or major set back.
Most Freepers are up on the news and really the articles are just a starting point for the majority of discussion.
We can click to the link for the rest of the detail as needed. And certainly others will post details to ehance the discussion thread.
On a side note: Perhaps you should advise the complaining news orgainzations that when they pick up breaking FR reporting, they are to attribute FR as the source.
There are many instances when breaking news is directly lifted off FR by these news outlets. We do, after all, have the largest number of reporters in the field of any news organization.
Best Regards,
BJN
To: DoughtyOne; Jim Robinson
Another thought, possibly they aren't posting and trashing their reporting? Of course it's all an attack against conservatives. We have a voice now, that's more powerful day by day. Look at how they're trying to shut down talk radio. Now, the internet. Can we host FR overseas (That would be ironic) without penalties?
To: Jim Robinson
I usually only post vanities, if I post threads at all.
Just to be on the safe side, should I experpt those? (Kidding!)
210
posted on
04/08/2004 10:46:21 PM PDT
by
4mycountry
("Completely concretely" - - That's "the power of the 'Freeper'.")
To: Jim Robinson
experpt = excerpt
That's what I get for posting at a quarter til 1AM.
211
posted on
04/08/2004 10:47:14 PM PDT
by
4mycountry
("Completely concretely" - - That's "the power of the 'Freeper'.")
To: Jim Robinson
I will try my simple common sense idea one more time before giving up.
Newspapers want hits on their web site so that they can sell advertising, perfectly understandable. One way (ugly) around this problem would be to place at random, an ad from a list of news paper advertisers as the first reply. I think most paper would go for something like that. It would help them and would not be a terrible thing for FR.
212
posted on
04/08/2004 10:47:26 PM PDT
by
jpsb
(Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Venues with jukeboxes etc... used to have to pay those fees to ASCAP/BMI.. now, I think they go through the JLO to do that... its been a while, but there used to be two fees period - one to ASCAP, and one to BMI, and they were not all all too expensive for even the smallest bar to pay - it's just another cost of doing business, really - and as I stated in an earlier post, live entertainment was rarely a losing proposition for a bar - unless the bar was already having financial trouble to begin with...
213
posted on
04/08/2004 10:47:33 PM PDT
by
Chad Fairbanks
(I havn't seen my therapist in 5 years. Neither has anyone else ;0))
To: Mo1
And some of the press doesn't seem to have a problem using information that Freepers research Bump to that! I've seen it happen.
To: JustAmy
Probably "graduates" of social engineering institutes (skoolz) in california ;-)
If the McClatchys go buhbye, that's the FResno, Modesto and Sac Bee plus the Merced Star Sun in California, and a few other papers nationwide, the Mpls Red Star Tribune is already on the FR list of excerpt only.
215
posted on
04/08/2004 10:48:46 PM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi Mac ... Become a FR Monthly Donor ... Kerry thread archive @ /~normsrevenge)
To: texasbluebell
We should just paraprase the living heck out of their stupid articles, being certain to note who the original writer was. One of the difficulties with any sort of excerpting or paraphrasing is that the source being excerpted or paraphrased can complain that their words were distorted or taken out of context. Unless the original (and unaltered) source is available for comparison, there's no way for the person who excerpted or paraphrased the work to defend against such a charge.
If I try to tell others that e.g. the L.A. Times said something hateful and someone accuses me of taking their words of context, how can I show that I didn't take their words out of context but am not allowed to include the full context in which they appeared?
216
posted on
04/08/2004 10:50:01 PM PDT
by
supercat
(Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
To: Reagan Man
Excerpting never bugged me, and for them clicks equals cash.
The more frequent "registration" page seems to my bias to be a left wing publication thing?
Any indication of other sites having the same issues?
Is the list primarliy left wing?
Google caches the goods...But
It does hurt to not have the nice database here, though.
The ones that seem extreme and silly are the "no excerpt" folks. Seems extremely shortsighted.
217
posted on
04/08/2004 10:50:20 PM PDT
by
pending
To: jpsb
I don't know. There are a lot of papers we post from and a lot of people to convince. And not all are even in America.
218
posted on
04/08/2004 10:51:00 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(Thank you all very much!!)
To: Jim Robinson; Torie; Congressman Billybob
You might want to consider hiring a clever corporate lawyer to chop up Free Republic, LLC, into multiple entities such that the company that is actually hosting the forum has no assets or equipment.
For example, Company A leases Free Republic software and computer equipment to Company B. Company B buys the server space. Publishers complain to Company B, but Company B having no assets of its own is free to ignore the complaints. If sued, Company B declares BK, company A takes back its computers, etc., and then Company C is formed...
I don't know if this is do-able, but it is worth checking out...
219
posted on
04/08/2004 10:51:01 PM PDT
by
ambrose
("I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it" - John F. al-Query)
To: 4mycountry
hahahah! ROTFLOL!
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