US Offensive in Fallujah intensifies

DW -World.DE ^ | 4-6-04

[TexKat]

US and Iraqi forces clash with insurgents in Fallujah

There have been heavy clashes between US troops and Iraqi insurgents on the edge of the flashpoint town of Falluja. US commanders have been vowing to pacify Fallujah after last week's killing of four US security contractors there. Meanwhile, an Italian news agency has quoted a local official in Nassiriya as saying some 15 Iraqi militiamen and civilians had been killed there in clashes with Italian soldiers. Italian officials said 12 Italian soldiers were wounded. The militiamen are said to be supporters of radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, accused of leading a wave of confrontations with occupying coalition forces. 48 Iraqis and nine coalition soldiers were killed in fighting between occupying troops and Sadr's militiamen in Baghdad and Najaf on Sunday. And the US military has said attackers on Monday killed four US Marines in al-Anbar province west of Baghdad, while three U.S. soldiers were killed in separate attacks in a Shi'ite area of Baghdad on Monday and Tuesday.

[Aeronaut]

I believe that's 100 "good" Iraqis. There are likely many hundreds of dead "bad" Iraqis.

Aahh! You are probably right. I guess I have an itchy trigger-finger.

[MEG33]

I have the news on and there is nothing new..just Rumsfield saying we have captured some and they have the pictures of the perps in the mob.

[TexKat]

Bret Baier Fox News reporting: on outskirts of Falljah 8 Marines and 1 Corp Man (sp?)came under fire by RPG +, one Marine hit in the head, was evacuated. Doctors said the marine could talk, he would survive.

[headsonpikes]

Thanks for the BelmontClub link!

[Happy2BMe]

Super, super, super efforts RTC!

BUMP

[Quix]

I deplore damage to innocents too.

HOWEVER, we do well to keep in mind, ALL are in rebellion at some level or other against God.

ALL deserve eternal death for being in rebellion and defiance against God unless and until they accept Christ's sacrificial Blood covering for their rebelliously & defiantly choosing something other than God's offer of His Perfection.

ALSO . . .

noncombatant citizens often bear more responsibility than is owned. WE ALL BEAR RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE TREASONOUS BILLDO AND SHRILLERY YEARS. There's plenty of complicity in our land for the treasonous DIMRATS and RHINO's still pontificating in the halls of Congress.

The silent in the face of evil are also complicit.

First They Came for the Jews
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller

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EVEN ALL LOVING, ALL PATIENT, ALL KIND, ALL FAIR GOD ALMIGHTY OBLITERATED WHOLE PEOPLE GROUPS in the Old Testament. And, He ordered Israel to do so on occasion.

EVEN CHRIST noted that HE came to bring a sword. And clearly Armageddon will not be a cake walk for evil by a long stretch of the imagination.

AND God has declared that in the end times, (which I'm convinced is our era by abundant evidence) that HE will make man as scarce as gold.

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I STILL PREFER TO TAKE EXTRA PAINS TO PROTECT INNOCENTS. WE MUST AVOID becoming in heart, mind, spirit and actions the same as our enemies.

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NEVERTHELESS, THERE MAY WELL COME A TIME AND A PLACE WHEN SO CALLED AND EVEN TRUE INNOCENTS MUST DIE. EVIL IS PERVASIVELY POLLUTING. And the pollution sticks. There are hearts and minds and spirits in Fallujah which will never be pacified. It is against their philosophy. It is against their religion. It is against their personalities. It is against their primary reference group. It will not happen in this lifetime, ever.

IN A LOT OF RESPECTS, IT WOULD BE MERCY TO TERMINATE THEIR EVIL LEST THEY RACK UP GREATER ETERNAL PUNISHMENT.

[TexKat]

Is al-Sadr held up in a mosque or not?

8 U.S. Troops, 30 Iraqis Die in Fighting

Al-Sadr moved to his office in the nearby city of Najaf, in an alley near the city's holiest shrine, according to a top aide, Sheik Qays al-Khaz'ali. "I have pledged not to allow a drop of blood to be shed except my own," al-Sadr said in a statement. "I'm prepared to have my own blood shed for what is holy to me." He said he was moving to avoid bloodshed in a mosque. "I feared that the sanctity of a glorious and esteemed mosque would be violated by scum and evil people," he said. The Americans "will have no qualms to embark on such actions."

[MEG33]

Sistani's group obviously told him to move.

[Imal]

Wretchard's analysis is excellent and probably prescient.

[Getsmart64]

"What kind of aircraft are these AC-130s?"


The rumour is...an AC-130 Gunship on one pass can put a bullet in every inch or foot, I forget which, of ground the size of a football field.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Pretty good stuff. Looks like the guy is a War College professor or what not.

[hobson]

Excellent! Thanks for posting that link.

[MEG33]

Heavy fighting in Ar Ramadi,Sadr's militia involved..said to be the heaviest yet..Fox news

[LoudRepublicangirl]

The DAV is another organization that I would encourage people to donate to. We have many guys and gals who have been permanently wounded in this war-burns, amputees, paralysis, who need our help. This is the ugly side of war but we have to help those who have survived to get the help that they so much deserve.

[MEG33]

FYI

[Argus]

al-Sadr said he was moving to avoid bloodshed in a mosque. "I feared that the sanctity of a glorious and esteemed mosque would be violated by scum and evil people," he said

This from the guy whose followers hacked a rival mullah to death in (I believe) the very same mosque a year ago.

[TexKat]

I heard MEG33. Ar Ramadi army, followers of al-Sadr charged a coaliton compound with machine guns and rpgs, extremly intense battle, maybe a significant number of casulties. Marines were guarding this compound which is located west of Baghdad and west and corner of Fallujah.

[tracer]

If these vermin think nothing of desecrating human bodies, which are temples of the Lord, then why should we hold back re: mosques when such structures provide cover and refuge for piles of $#!t containing beating hearts?

They chose to draw fire onto their mosques. Vermin who hide out in holy places should be referred to as "mosque-rats" by Arab, Jew, and Christian alike......

[TexKat]

AR Ramadi:

Bret Baier Fox News:

100 enemy fighters. Fighting is so bad that our guys had to call for the administrative individuals for assistance. There are US casulties and US deaths. The enemies appear to be very well trained and the operation appears to be very well trained.

[TexKat]

We are over hear now

Heavy Fighting in AR Ramadi Iraq~~~ Sadr's fighters have attacked US Forces.