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US Offensive in Fallujah intensifies
DW -World.DE ^ | 4-6-04

Posted on 04/06/2004 6:51:06 AM PDT by TexKat

US and Iraqi forces clash with insurgents in Fallujah

There have been heavy clashes between US troops and Iraqi insurgents on the edge of the flashpoint town of Falluja. US commanders have been vowing to pacify Fallujah after last week's killing of four US security contractors there. Meanwhile, an Italian news agency has quoted a local official in Nassiriya as saying some 15 Iraqi militiamen and civilians had been killed there in clashes with Italian soldiers. Italian officials said 12 Italian soldiers were wounded. The militiamen are said to be supporters of radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, accused of leading a wave of confrontations with occupying coalition forces. 48 Iraqis and nine coalition soldiers were killed in fighting between occupying troops and Sadr's militiamen in Baghdad and Najaf on Sunday. And the US military has said attackers on Monday killed four US Marines in al-Anbar province west of Baghdad, while three U.S. soldiers were killed in separate attacks in a Shi'ite area of Baghdad on Monday and Tuesday.


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KEYWORDS: alsadr; fallujah; iraq; springcleaning; usmarines; vigilantresolve; whoopass
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To: Cap Huff
The bad news is they have taken over the Mosque that is one of Islam's Holiest Shrines....a good hiding place as the Shiites not in Al Sadr's camp would revolt lest any harm come to the Shrine.
121 posted on 04/06/2004 9:45:06 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: river rat; Travis McGee
These poor "warriors for Allah" are going to get their last lesson on the difference between a "street strutting masked Arab gunman" and a trained disciplined warrior..

BTTT for that...

122 posted on 04/06/2004 9:46:03 AM PDT by in the Arena ("rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.” ~ Orwell)
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To: MEG33
I don't think the other Shia leaders will allow him to control the most holy site in Iraq for to long.
123 posted on 04/06/2004 9:47:02 AM PDT by Dog
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To: MEG33
The bad news is they have taken over the Mosque that is one of Islam's Holiest Shrines....a good hiding place as the Shiites not in Al Sadr's camp would revolt lest any harm come to the Shrine.

No, that's the good news. If they're in the Mosque, there's no reason why we shouldn't let them stay there for months and months, with no electricity or water. Eventually they will come out firing (good), or drown in their own crap (better).

124 posted on 04/06/2004 9:47:58 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Dog
I don't think we're going to move into Najaf with heavy force. I will guess that Sistani is going to take care of it.
125 posted on 04/06/2004 9:49:02 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: Dog
I hope you are right.Sistani can be a pain in the whatsis to the Coalition but he does not wish the militant Sadr to gain in followers and usurp his leadership.
126 posted on 04/06/2004 9:49:23 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Dog
That's what I was getting at in #125.
127 posted on 04/06/2004 9:50:39 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: MEG33; All
20 GIs, 100 Iraqis Killed Since Weekend
128 posted on 04/06/2004 9:50:42 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: r9etb
I'd like to see their gaunt faces and protruding ribs after a few months of siege.
129 posted on 04/06/2004 9:51:50 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: TexKat
20 GIs, 100 Iraqis Killed Since Weekend

That'd be a really good ratio with another 0 after the 100.

Prayers for the fallen and their families.

130 posted on 04/06/2004 9:54:00 AM PDT by Aeronaut (How many liberals does it take to change a light bulb? None - they like being in the dark.)
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To: TexKat
God bless our fallen heroes.Prayers for our armed forces.
131 posted on 04/06/2004 9:55:46 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Polybius
One of the pundits on Fox this morning was talking about the way they handled a Tikriti town and he said you cut off the food and electricity and water and let the people know that when they start turning over the bad apples then they start getting the good things of life that are needed to sustain life again.
132 posted on 04/06/2004 9:57:27 AM PDT by johnb838 (Kerry: Wrong on Defense, Wrong on Taxes. Too Liberal for America.)
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To: Aeronaut
I believe that's 100 "good" Iraqis. There are likely many hundreds of dead "bad" Iraqis.
133 posted on 04/06/2004 10:08:28 AM PDT by Theo
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To: MEG33; All
Rumsfeld: Troops Capture Fallujah Suspects

WASHINGTON - Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Tuesday that U.S. troops have captured a number of people in Fallujah as they begin an operation to pacify the Iraqi city where four American military contractors were killed and their bodies brutalized.

"The forces have cordoned off the city. They have photographs of a good many people who were involved in the attacks against the individuals and they have been conducting raids in the city against high-value targets," Rumsfeld said at a brief news conference in Norfolk, Va.

"They have captured a number of people over the last 36 hours. The city is isolated. A number of people have resisted and been have killed. And it will be a methodical effort to find the individuals who were involved," Rumsfeld said.

He also said that American military commanders in Iraq will get additional troops if they request more soldiers during a time of intensifying fighting in Iraq — both in Fallujah and across the country — amid a growing Shiite uprising.

Commanders are studying ways they might increase troops in Iraq if should violence spread much more widely, a senior U.S. military officer said Monday.

Generals believe they have enough forces to handle the attacks that have been coming from various quarters, including the recent violence by a Shiite militia group. But they want to know what is available if the situation gets worse, said the officer, who spoke to reporters on condition of anonymity.

Rumsfeld, at the appearance in Norfolk, said that he and President Bush frequently ask commanders in Iraq if they need more troops. He said commanders on the scene, including Gen. John Abizaid, the head of U.S. Central Command, are constantly reviewing the situation.

"They are the ones whose advice we follow on these things," Rumsfeld said during the appearance in Norfolk with NATO Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer.

"They will decide what they need, and they will get what they need," Rumsfeld said.

At the moment, about 135,000 U.S. troops are in Iraq — "an unusually high level," Rumsfeld said. American officials had expected to go down to about 115,000 troops when a series of rotations of new troops into and older troops out of the country was complete, Rumsfeld said.

"The commanders are using the excess forces that happen to be in there because of the deployment process," Rumsfeld said.

Rumsfeld said there is a possibility that NATO will help in Iraq. The alliance has a peacekeeping force of 6,500 in Afghanistan and is expanding its work there.

"I suspect we'll see, would be delighted to see, NATO take a larger role ... in Afghanistan, then Iraq," Rumsfeld said.

134 posted on 04/06/2004 10:10:00 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Dog
Anything in text you can post from CNN stating that....AFP is giving a rather biased report I just posted :

IRAQ: Shiite bastion boils with anti-US anger after at least 57 killed

135 posted on 04/06/2004 10:14:50 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: MEG33
Yes MEG33 God bless our fallen heros and our heros that are currently in the midst of the battle.

Ollie North on Fox News just stated that the Marines in Fallujah have been there for only 2 weeks and among those are some Marines that were there during Iraqi Freedom and volunteered to go back after some additional training.

136 posted on 04/06/2004 10:19:19 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
Again,I say,I am truly humbled by their service.
137 posted on 04/06/2004 10:21:04 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: All
Per Fox...Some of our Marines who are supposed to rotate out may be delayed for awhile so they can help out with the ongoing situation.
138 posted on 04/06/2004 10:23:23 AM PDT by CELTICGAEL (Celt) (God Bless our troops!)
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To: river rat
Belmont Club is doing a bang up job so far.
139 posted on 04/06/2004 10:23:53 AM PDT by threat matrix
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To: MEG33
any more news?
140 posted on 04/06/2004 10:31:28 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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