How Richard Clarke concocted the TWA 800 'exit strategy' ... and why

WorldNetDaily ^ | 4/05/04

[PhilDragoo]

Nice, nice, very nice,
so many people in the same device.

Laurie Mylorie's current article catches Clarke up in serial lying and an unprofessional antipathy toward her.

He refers to the Iraq theory of WTC I as "the Mylorie theory", calling it "disproven".

Clarke is now seen as the primary midwife of the fuel tank disinformation--how fitting for the author of Tales from the Closet: Victor Victoria's Secret.

We recall that OKCBomb won traitorrapist42 an eleven-point surge and turned his train wreck around.

Of course TWA Flight 800 was taken out by a missile: 270 people saw it, the radar showed the missile, but--

We have the same Jamie Gorelick of Whitewater notoriety stepping in again--to discipline Kalstrom into complicity.

From the Wall Street Journal's narration Whitewater we know it was Gorelick who brought the case into main Justice where she could beat up the attorneys and protect her bosses.

The CIA "animation" is the most obscene, crude, pathetic nonsense ever to see the screen--it's sheer crap.

As for the convenient timing of this incident to black out the grilling of the only link to Hitlery--

--it is reminiscent of the coincidence too cruel to pass without mention of the death of Barbara Olson.

The copresidency that failed a dozen opportunities to kill or capture bin Laden could only bitch about the air quality at ground zero and send out its closet Rasputin to slander Bush.

We have just been warned by She Who Must Be Oyveyed that this election will be determined by "outside force appearing suddenly and changing the outcome".

From the former love of Vince Foster, whose "errand boy" Ron Brown was victim of a stolen beacon and a perfectly circular hole in his skull.

Fuel tank? We expect such theories from those for whom flatulence is forte.

[ladyinred]

"The case of TWA 800 served as a turning point because of Washington's determination and to a great extent ability to suppress terrorist explanation and "float" mechanical failure theories. To avoid such suppression after future strikes, terrorism-sponsoring states would raise the ante so that the West cannot ignore them."

Yossef Bodansky, Director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, 1999

Anyone recall the media having a feeding frenzy after this "commission" on terrorism demanding answers from Clinton?

[ml/nj]

Flt800 was destroyed by a Missle.

Duh!

But it was a Navy missile, not an Islamic one.

Get back to me when you learn not to shout.

ML/NJ

[ladyinred]

Flight 800 went down (blew up) on July 17th, 1997. That very morning a a fax was sent to a prestigious Arabic newspaper in London. It arrived shortly before noon, Washington time. Sent by the Islamic Change Movement the warning came one day after the group had taken responsibility for the destruction of Khobar Towers. It is as follows:

"The mujahideen will give their harshest reply to the threats of the foolish US President. Everybody will be surprised by the magnitude of the reply, the date and time of which will be determined by the mujahideen. The invaders must be prepared to leave, either dead or alive. Their time is at the morning-dawn. Is not the morning dawn near?"

The sun was about to dawn on the Arabian Peninsula, it was about to set on Long Island NY; (from First Strike, TWA flight 800 and the Attack on America

[RobRoy]

I remember listening to Michael Medveds Conspiracy Theory Friday show once a little over a year ago. He was lambasting all the popular theories and stopped at Flight 800. He said that one stands on it's own as what he believes just might be an honest to goodness conspiracy theory.

I think that when all this stuff in the election and Iraq has settled down somewhat, we may actually get the "real" story, or something closer to it.

[ladyinred]

Please read the book bray. You don't know the half of it.

[potlatch]

Another episode in which we may never have the truth revealed by the people who know it.

LOL, Phil, I love your posts. Besides being informed, you've got the 'gift of gab' and your own 'slanguage'
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[Tymesup]

My notes of a Batchelor and Alexander radio broadcast on 8/4/01, talking to Mike Wire (link= http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b6ba0a7216d.htm):

Mike Wire – most important witness, in person

CIA based animation on his testimony, used to discredit all other witnesses – never testimony

I was on bridge in Westhampton, taking a break, thought it was fireworks, disappeared, big fireball in sky
Startled? Thought it was mid-air collision, didn’t associate firework with collision
What did you see? White,brilliant light going up, stated in FBI
45 degree angle, wavering, zigzagging
Made turn out to sea started zigging, seemed to settle down
Across the sky? Out to sea, hit the plane, away from the beach
When hit plane? Didn’t see plane, it arced over, disappeared, then fireball
Slab houses on LI, point of view for Mike – [Jack] CIA used mixed perspective to create animation
Matches missile test descriptions of witnesses, disappearing, then bam
Has document, irrefutable, NTSB
Mick you’ve read this
They talked to me Mick twice in July
Doc speaks of third interview, based on two houses ; mick says it didn’t happen
Feds manufactured the interview
Did cartoon anyway, then “did” the interview
Rodriguez from NTSB – how did you jibe this with all the witnesses – that’s when they invented the interview, imaginary flagpoles
Confirming no third interview – Mick - yes
Call-in from Tom, was on scene
Runs research vessel, Shinnecock
Asked by Coast Guard to respond, to help
Did not see event

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Note Wire confirms there was no third interview

[Just mythoughts]

"Flt800 was destroyed by a Missle.
Duh!

But it was a Navy missile, not an Islamic one.

Get back to me when you learn not to shout.

ML/NJ"

Whose Navy? Why?

[Tymesup]

"On Oct. 4, 2001, Defense Department satellites equipped with infrared sensors captured a Ukrainian missile striking a Russian airliner 30,000 feet above the Black Sea."

Could something other than a Stinger have hit TWA 800, in your opinion?

Thanks for your help.

[ml/nj]

Whose Navy? Why?

Ours.

It was an accident.

Do some reading.

ML/NJ

[Just mythoughts]

"Whose Navy? Why?
Ours.

It was an accident.

Do some reading.

ML/NJ"

You sure are bossy, I have read, bits and pieces here and there and no place is it officially publicly written that our Navy shot down this plane.

You made a statement of fact I have not seen anywhere else.

How exactly does one blow a jet out of the sky accidentally?

[Tymesup]

Please note the US Navy was in the neighborhood at the time. An interesting coincidence, at the least.

[archy]

"On Oct. 4, 2001, Defense Department satellites equipped with infrared sensors captured a Ukrainian missile striking a Russian airliner 30,000 feet above the Black Sea."

Could something other than a Stinger have hit TWA 800, in your opinion?

Thanks for your help.

I think it's probable that a missile nailed Flight 800, but very unlikely that it was the two-and-a-half pound warhead charge of a FIM-92A Stinger's warhead that did that much initial target damage. The subsequent FBI extreme efforts at the coverup, to include intimidation of witnesses and arrest of journalists, suggests that it was either a U.S. Navy missile that downed the aircraft, or possible a foreign missile supplied in an FBI undercover sting operation that went terribly wrong.

[Poohbah]

I've "done some reading."

The problem with the Navy missile theory is that the missile would NOT have had the sort of exhaust plume described by eyewitnesses at the point of intercepting Flight 800.

[Just mythoughts]

Yes, I remember reading that the US Navy was having exercises in the neighborhood during this same time frame.

There is also no way of knowing with what we have been told it there were other nation's monitoring our exercises in that neighborhood.

I remember Jim Kallstrom calling up to Rush and said that it was not an act of terrorism. I believe this was right after the former Press Secretary of JFKennedy, can't remember his name from Paris claimed he had information that the jet was brought down. Most everyone said he was a "kook".

[Poohbah]

My personal vote for the missile type is the Saab RBS-70. Laser-guided (which neatly explains the center-mass impact: just center the death-dot on the target, the missile does the rest), the missile's booster gives an impressive visual signature (corresponding with the eyewitness descriptions), and it's team-portable, so it has a healthy warhead.

[acehai]

Within weeks of the crash, the FBI would interview more than 700 eyewitnesses – 270 of whom saw lights streaking upwards towards the plane. Although they were not allowed near the best witnesses, The FBI wasn't allowed near the best witnesses. Really? Where did this idea come from?

Nice try, pal, but no cigar...It certainly didn't come from Sanders...Try completing the quote.

Within weeks of the crash, the FBI would interview more than 700 eyewitnesses - 270 of whom saw lights streaking upwards towards the plane. Although they were not allowed near the best witnesses, Defense Department analysts also debriefed some of these witnesses. These analysts told the FBI that 34 of those inteviewed described events "consistant with the characteristics of the flight of [anti-aircraft] missiles."

You strike me as damaged goods...Or someone with an agenda...

[onyx]

LOL, Phil, I love your posts. Besides being informed, you've got the 'gift of gab' and your own 'slanguage'




Ditto!

[archy]

My personal vote for the missile type is the Saab RBS-70. Laser-guided (which neatly explains the center-mass impact: just center the death-dot on the target, the missile does the rest), the missile's booster gives an impressive visual signature (corresponding with the eyewitness descriptions), and it's team-portable, so it has a healthy warhead.

Pretty close. Check out capabilities of the upgraded version, the RBS-90, in service since the early 1990s. The later missiles are also compatable with the early launchers, providing deniability if a launch unit were to be recovered. And the known sales of the RBS 70/90 have included distribution to some interesting customers.

But I suspect a larger incendiary/explosive warhead, possible a thermobaric, possibly an *XM* developmental or other deniable type. And a launcher unit for an RBS 70/90 would fit nicely on the rear deck of even a very small boat.

Missile: Rb 90
Max range: 7000 m
Minimum range: 200 m
Max altitude: 4000 m
Speed: 580 m/s
Time to 2 km: 6 s
Time to 3 km: 8.5 s
Time to 5 km: 15 s
Time to 6 km: 16 s
Length: 1.32 m
Diameter: 0.105 m
Weight: 17 kg
Warhead: 1 kg+ fragment+shaped charge