10 U.S. Troops Killed in Iraqi Violence (4 April, 2004)

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[Happy2BMe]

By KHALID MOHAMMED

(AP) A demonstrator tries to contain the crowds during an anti-American protest in Baghdad, Iraq, Sunday...
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NAJAF, Iraq (AP) - Supporters of an anti-American cleric rioted in four Iraqi cities Sunday, killing eight U.S. troops and one Salvadoran soldier in the worst unrest since the spasm of looting and arson immediately after the fall of Saddam Hussein.

The U.S. military on Sunday reported two Marines were killed in a separate "enemy action" in Anbar province, raising the toll of American service members killed in Iraq to at least 610.

The rioters were supporters of anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. They were angry over Saturday's arrest on murder charges of one of al-Sadr's aides, Mustafa al-Yacoubi, and the closure of a pro-al-Sadr newspaper.

Near the holy city of Najaf, a gunbattle at a Spanish garrison killed at least 22 people, including two coalition soldiers - an American and a Salvadoran.

(AP) Supporters of al-Sadr's self-styled militia, the al-Mahdi Army, walk towards Kufa, Iraq, Sunday...
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Fighting in the Baghdad neighborhood of Sadr City killed seven U.S. soldiers and wounded at least 24, the U.S. military said in a written statement.

A resident said two Humvees were seen burning in the neighborhood, and that some American soldiers had taken refuge in a building. The report could not be independently confirmed, and it was unclear whether the soldiers involved were those who died.

A column of American tanks was seen moving through the center of Baghdad Sunday evening, possibly headed toward the fighting.

The military said the fighting erupted after members of a militia loyal to radical Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada al-Sadr took control of police stations and government buildings in the neighborhood.

Protesters clashed with Italian and British forces in other cities in a broad, violent challenge to the U.S.-led coalition, raising questions about its ability to stabilize Iraq ahead of a scheduled June 30 handover of power to Iraqis.

(AP) American special forces join coalition soldiers as the Spanish base comes under attack outside...
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With less than three months left before then, the U.S. occupation administrator appointed an Iraqi defense minister and chief of national intelligence.

"These organizations will give Iraqis the means to defend their country against terrorists and insurgents," L. Paul Bremer said at a press conference.

About three miles outside the holy city of Najaf, supporters of al-Sadr opened fire on the Spanish garrison during a street protest that drew about 5,000 people. The protesters were angry over the arrest of the cleric's aide, said the Spanish Defense Ministry in Madrid.

The attackers opened fire at about noon, said Cmdr. Carlos Herradon, a spokesman for the Spanish headquarters in nearby Diwaniyah.

The Spanish and Salvadoran soldiers inside the garrison fired back, and assailants later regrouped in three clusters outside the base as the shooting continued for several hours.

(AP) American soldiers take cover as the Spanish base comes under attack outside Kufa, 15 kms north of...
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Two soldiers - a Salvadoran and an American - died and nine other soldiers were wounded, the Spanish defense ministry said. No other details were available.

More than 200 people were wounded, said Falah Mohammed, director of the Najaf health department. El Salvador's defense minister said several Salvadoran soldiers were wounded.

The death toll of at least 20 included two Iraqi soldiers who were inside the Spanish base, witnesses said.

Spain has 1,300 troops stationed in Iraq, and the Central American contingent is of a similar size. The Salvadorans are under Spanish command as part of an international brigade that includes troops from Central America.

Multiple train bombings in Madrid last month that killed 191 people have been blamed on al-Qaida-linked terrorists, who said they were punishing Spain for its alliance with the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan.

(AP) A Salvadorean soldier runs for cover as his base comes under attack outside Kufa, 15 kms north of...
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Spain's new government, elected just days after the March 11 train bombings, has promised to make good on its pre-election promise to withdraw all Spanish troops from Iraq unless command for peacekeeping is turned over to the United Nations.

In El Salvador, the defense minister said the attack will not alter his country's role in reconstruction efforts.

"It reinforces even more our decision to continue helping a country that is suffering," Juan Antonio Martinez said Sunday.

The protesters were upset over the detention of al-Yacoubi, a senior aide to the 30-year-old al-Sadr, who opposes the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq. Al-Sadr is at odds with most Shiites, who hope to gain substantial power in the new Iraqi government.

Shiites comprise about 60 percent of Iraq's 25 million people but were brutally repressed by the regime of Saddam Hussein, a Sunni Muslim.

(AP) An American soldier runs for cover as the Spanish base comes under attack outside Kufa, 15 kms...
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At coalition headquarters in Baghdad, a senior official said on condition of anonymity that al-Yacoubi was detained Saturday on charges of murdering Abdel-Majid al-Khoei, a senior Shiite cleric who returned to Iraq after the U.S.-led invasion. A total of 25 arrest warrants were issued, and 13 suspects have been arrested, the official said.

Spanish-led forces said they did not participate in the arrest.

In central Baghdad's Firdaus Square, police fired warning shots during a protest by hundreds of al-Sadr supporters against al-Yacoubi's arrest. At least two protesters were injured, witnesses said.

In Kufa, near Najaf, al-Sadr supporters took over a police station and seized guns inside. No police were in sight.

In the southern city of Nasiriyah, Italian troops traded fire with militiamen demonstrating against al-Yacoubi's detention, said Lt. Col. Pierluigi Monteduro, chief of staff of Italian troops in the region. One Italian officer was wounded in the leg.

Also in the south, British troops clashed with protesters in Amarah, according to the Ministry of Defense in London. It was unclear whether there were casualties.

Al-Sadr's office in Baghdad issued a statement later Sunday calling off street protests and saying the cleric would stage a sit-in at a mosque in Kufa, where he has delivered fiery weekly sermons for months.

Al-Sadr supporters also were angered by the March 28 closure of his weekly newspaper by U.S. officials. The Americans alleged the newspaper was inciting violence against coalition troops.

The two U.S. Marines, both assigned to the 1st Marine Division, were killed by an "enemy action" in Anbar province Saturday, the military said. One died Saturday and the other Sunday, the statement said without providing details.

Anbar is an enormous stretch of land reaching to the Jordanian and Syrian borders west of Baghdad that includes Fallujah, a city where four American civilian contractors were slain Wednesday.

At a checkpoint in Samarra, about 60 miles north of Baghdad, that was manned by Iraqi Civil Defense personnel, a bomb killed three security officers and wounded another, workers at Samarra General Hospital said.

In Kirkuk, also in the north, a car bomb exploded, killing three civilians and wounding two others, police said.

Bremer on Sunday announced the appointments of Ali Allawi, the interim trade minister, as the new defense minister and Mohammed al-Shehwani, a former Iraqi air force officer who fled Iraq in 1990, as head of the Iraqi National Intelligence Service.

Late Sunday, U.N. envoy Lakhdar Brahimi and a team that will assist Iraqis in the political transition to an interim Iraqi government arrived in Baghdad, the United Nations said.

[Happy2BMe]

"Their blood should be flowing ankle deep in the streets. Our boys should be FEARED, not loathed."

Should be - could be - AIN'T!

Look at THIS

[rambo316]

It is high time to start shooting and asking questions later. My prayers are with these soldiers and their loved ones. President Bush, it is time to take off the gloves and start doing away with these Iraqi SOB's. We have got to hit them with overwhelming force, just like we did with the Japs. This political correctness crap is killing our boys. All I keep hearing is Bremer and some generals saying that we are going to hit these SOB's an that is it. I am sick of it.

When this happens, we look like paper tigers. FORCE is where it is my fellow Americans. Let's go get them.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Bush better wake up and let his generals be generals or he won't be the one calling the shots in 2005.

This isn't a real war and it seems we lost our will to fight a brutal, for keeps war.

All this talk about PC BS and talk of rebuilding their f-ing country at tax payer expense, while they are killing our people. These people are savages. Even their kids were pulling and pounding on those dead Americans. Look at the video images, there were hundreds of them, and those on the sidelines were cheering...

I find this whole damn Iraq thing extremely disturbing! What do we win here?

[yooper]

"If the mosque is the source of the problem, them blow em' up and turn them into graveyards."

This would only make more Iraqi's go out and get an AK-47. Such is the jam that Bush is in right now. He can't embark on the strategy you described, and he's in a fix if he keeps up with the current policy. It's a Catch-22.

But Bush will win the upcoming election, because the public realizes that our national defense cannot be entrusted to liberals. At least I hope that's the case.

We have a choice. We can reelect Bush and hope that he will see this mess through to an honorable finish, or we can elect John Kerry and surrender our national honor, because that's exactly what John Kerry will do if he's elected.

[pickemuphere]

Look, let's all calm down and let the Marines do their Fallujah thing. You'll find that Al-Sadr will sober up real quick when that occurs.

Don't you get it? There isn't going to be any "Fallujah thing."

The opportunity for nipping this in the bud is now almost a week past. We should have immediately responded to the slaughter in Fallujah with force and conviction. Instead, Paul Bremer came out, looked concerned, spoke of his "disapproval" -- and did nothing!

And now we see the consequence of weakness.

[Happy2BMe]

Do these people get the "message" we are in Iraq to "help" them?

Shi'ite GRATITUDE

[TomGuy]

if we are not hogtied like we were in Nam.

We are the richest nation with the best trained troops and the most military hardware the world has ever seen.

Our Defense Department should be able to 'correct' the situation developing in Iraq through the use of all the massive amounts and types of weaponry we've been paying for for decades. So, why are they being prohibited from doing the job they were sent to do?

GWB and Company should consider that, if the war in Iraq smacks of politicing for election purposes, GWB and Company will be voted out by a landslide. Otherwise, GWB and Company need to free the military to finish the war before trying to set up a democratic government in Iraq. Finish the war first before turning over law enforcement activities to local police forces.

[Rokke]

"Don't you get it? There isn't going to be any "Fallujah thing." "

Wanna bet?

[Robert_Paulson2]

Better question would be: Where are all of these so-call iraqi friends of ours?

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what friends?

[river rat]

I thought I might live long enough to see victory against Islamic Militant lunatics -- and see some semblance of peace in the Muslim world....

I no longer believe this to be possible in my lifetime..

President Bush is not conducting war against our enemies -- he demonstrated our power - but didn't apply with sufficient destruction to defeat the enemy... He destroyed an administration and removed them from power, but he certainly didn't defeat the enemy we must destroy - Militant Islamists.

My grandchildren will be targets and victims of these lunatics - if America is unwilling to fight this war with the resolve and brutality necessary to defeat these 7th century throwbacks...

I mourn for the families whose sons and daughters have been sacrificed in this mismanaged "war"... I thought we had learned something from the men we lost in Vietnam....obviously we haven't.


Semper Fi

[Robert_Paulson2]

we aren't seeing an overwhelming response because one isn't coming.

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bingo.

[Happy2BMe]

Do these people know something we don't?

Crowds of protesters march on a Spanish garrison near Kufa April 4, 2004. Spanish-led troops and Iraqi police fired on protesters and clashed with armed Shi'ite militiamen near Najaf on Sunday, leaving at least 19 people dead and more than 100 wounded, witnesses and hospital officials said.

[txhurl]

Please just tell me I can wake up and see Fallujah reaping their sown tomorrow morning.....? Please?

[BlackVeil]

Better question would be: Where are all of these so-call iraqi friends of ours?

Yep.

[Happy2BMe]

"My grandchildren will be targets and victims of these lunatics - if America is unwilling to fight this war with the resolve and brutality necessary to defeat these 7th century throwbacks..."

What "The Religion of Peace" Is All About

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FROM THE KORAN ITSELF...
"HEIL HITLER" Now Upgraded to "ALLAH AKBAR?"

You may already know about this one: O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. [al-Ma'idah 5:51.11]

But did you know that there are 123 verses in the Quran concerning fighting and killing for the cause of Allah? Here are but a few passages:

-Muslims are encouraged to be wholly occupied (Sura 2:273) with fighting for Allah's cause.

- Allah will give "a far richer recompense to those who fight for him" (Sura 4:96).

- Regarding infidels (unbelievers), they are the Muslim's "inveterate enemies" (Sura 4:101). Muslims are to "arrest them, besiege them and lie in ambush everywhere" (Sura 9:5) for them. They are to "seize them and put them to death wherever you find them, kill them wherever you find them, seek out the enemies of Islam relentlessly" (Sura 4:90). "Fight them until Islam reigns supreme" (Sura 2:193). "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers" (Sura 8:12).

- If a Muslim does not go to war, Allah will kill him (Sura 9:39). He is to be told, "the heat of war is fierce, but more fierce is the heat of Hell-fire" (Sura 9:81).

- A Muslim must "fight for the cause of Allah with the devotion due to him" (Sura 22:78)

- Muslims must make war on the infidels (unbelievers) who live around them (Sura 9:123).

- Muslims are to be "ruthless to unbelievers" (Sura 48:29).

- A Muslim should "enjoy the good things" he has gained by fighting (Sura 8:69).

- A Muslim can kill any person he wishes if it be a "just cause" (Sura 6:152).

- Allah loves those who "fight for his cause" (Sura 61:3).
Anyone who fights against Allah or renounces Islam in favor of another religion shall be "put to death or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off alternative sides" (Sura 5:34).

- Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him. Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)

- Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Koran 9:5)

- Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. (Koran 69:30-37)

- I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them. (Koran 8:12)

- They should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides. (Koran 5:33)

- Know that paradise is under the shades of swords. Sahih al-Bukhari Vol 4 p55

And Speaking of Paradise...

"There will be "gushing fountains" and everyone "shall recline on jeweled couches face to face, and there shall wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine." Suras (or chapters) 55 and 56 of the Quran.

"Therein are bashful virgins whom neither man nor jinnee will have touched before ... virgins as fair as corals and rubies," sura 55. A few lines later, you might remind them of "virgins chaste and fair ... they shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets."

"The smallest reward for the people of Paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana'a.'"

It will be the day, God willing, you spend with the women of paradise...Know that the gardens of paradise are waiting for you in all their beauty, and the women of paradise are waiting, calling out, "Come hither, friend of God."

For much more on "PARADISE... A Better World?" click HERE

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[Joe Hadenuf]

"Don't you get it? There isn't going to be any "Fallujah thing." "

Wanna bet?

If your saying were are going in there, and will kill thousands of these savages, I'll take that bet. Anyday. Wont happen.

While we are pussy footing around trying to find the bodies attached to the faces of those murderous freaks, they'll just start picking off more of our guys. Door to door wont cut it. That don't even win the drug war in this country.

We can't even secure our own borders and protect our sovereignty right in the USA. How in hell are we going secure their country, and make these people like us?

This don't look good my friend.

[Happy2BMe]

"And now we see the consequence of weakness."

[oceanview]

again, stop believeing our own hype. we really could care less if Iraq becomes a Jeffersonian democracy. we needed to depose a regime that was a friend to terrorism, we need bases in that area of the world, we need their oil to be on the market in as much quantity as possible. the democracy and the humanitarian stuff is fine, but its not the end all.

iraq can be as violent as american cities and still be OK - how many murders do we have a day in the US?

[Joe Hadenuf]

"My grandchildren will be targets and victims of these lunatics

And the government is so concerned about you're grandchildren, they refuse to secure our own borders, which have now turned into an epic national security time bomb, and a national disgrace.

You aint going to kill all these people all over the world. Your best chance at stopping terrorism, is *massive* immigration reform and *real* border security.

But unfortunately, that's not happening.

[yooper]

I'm with you. This administration has never rushed into a decision pell mell without thinking everything through first. That type of knee-jerk thinking is best left to libs.

I have seen many posts on this thread which express an opinion exactly in keeping with what the body-mutilators in Fallujah had hoped for. They wanted the video evidence of their actions to influence American public opinion on the war, the same way they influenced Spanish opinion immediately prior to the Spanish elections.

I'd like to think that at least those of us here at FR would be smarter than falling for such a gambit.