10 U.S. Troops Killed in Iraqi Violence (4 April, 2004)

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[Joe Hadenuf]

The pro-Coalition Iraqi police has apparently been attacked on several locations, with rioters besieging police stations. As for pro-Coalition unarmed civilians, well, they probably stayed home and tried to stay alive.

I know, it seems they kill those guys by the dozen.

I imagine being a cop in training in Iraq is not a real sought after position.

[justshutupandtakeit]

"National security time bomb" so Jose is going to decide he doesn't like cutting grass anymore but is going to try and blow up buildings? Oh, yeah.

Is it POSSIBLE that death dealers could infiltrate through Mexico? Sure it is. Is it probable? NO. Coming across the Canadian border would be a much better option. NONE of the hijackers arrived illegally. ALL came under normal methods foreigners use to get here.

Your confusion (driven by hatred) prevents you from properly distinguishing between social problems and national security problems. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.

Can I stop your goofy fantasies about hoards of N Koreans or Chinese pouring over the borders bent on our destruction? Only extensive and intensive therapy could do that. However, IT AIN'T HAPPENING.

Bush must have lost his Magic Wand. Can he borrow yours? Only the most abject of fools believe 7,000 miles of borders can be secured overnight. Particularly when that HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING.

It is a LIE to pretend that nothing has been done wrt illegal immigration. It is also a LIE to pretend that they can "enter this county, at will."

Between overblown fantasies and outright falsehoods I see nothing in your posts.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Eyewitnesses put the number of Iraqi assailants between seven and 18. U.S. investigators have identified several of the assailants, and intelligence sources say they include former members of Saddam Hussein's paramilitary forces and some "non-Iraqi Arabs."

Boy, for being in a city full of American hating people they sure seemed to get all this information quickly, including the ID of the actual perpetrators.

Tell me, if these so-called intellegence sources know all these details, why didn't they ID these people for the media and America to see like they do here in America. Not only that, wouldn't it help to ID these people so that our good Iraqi friends could point to where they are located or hiding?

[Rokke]

Our intelligence sources don't work for the U.S. media. They get the information to the folks who need it. Believe it or not, that doesn't include you or Geraldo Rivera. Sometimes it's better the bad guys don't know their cover is blown.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Yeah, we can tell how serious they are about America's security and terrorism, while millions crash our borders routinely, creating epic, nationwide fraud, crime, while choking off our schools, social services etc. Not to mention the titanic national security time bomb this has created.

Yeah, all those Mexicans driving planes into buildings are a real threat.

So it's only millions of Mexican's that are ignoring our laws and borders? There couldn't be hundreds, or even thousands entering with them with agendas of death?

And then you make this extremely ignorant statement like this below?

You seem unable to distinguish between military/security matters and social concerns/problems.

You obviously wouldn't know a massive security threat if walked into it face first.

Tell me Mr. Security expert, how you know that there are not north Koreans, terrorist groups, religious fanatics, communist Chinese, drug dealers, and others with agendas of death not pouring in along with the millions of Mexican's that are ignoring our laws?

Could you explain to all of us Mr. security expert how you know this? And why would an enemy NOT take advantage of this?

Bush has provided tremendous leadership in dealing with our principal danger

Then tell me Mr. security expert, why did the President fail to reform our out of control immigration policies, and secure our borders and sovereignty at midnight on 9-11?

If we are so damn concerned about the terrorist threat to America, why in hell are we allowing literally millions, from God knows where, to enter this country illegally, at will, routinely?

Those of us that are not in a coma, understand it's a national security timebomb.

Your confusion (driven by hatred) prevents you from properly distinguishing between social problems and national security problems. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.

LOL, I could have gotten a response like this from Loretta Sanchez!

Is it POSSIBLE that death dealers could infiltrate through Mexico? Sure it is. Is it probable? NO.

So literally *tons* of dangerous, illegal drugs can be brought in from Mexico, along with *millions* of people entering illegally, but it's not probable that terrorist or other bad guys could be enter along with all of this?

You betcha, justshutupandstickyourheadinthesand.

[Joe Hadenuf]

In your #220 post you stated: Not too many friendlies in Fallujah.

And now your basically stating that our intelligence knows everything about this attack, including the *identification* of those that committed this act.

[Atlantic Friend]

Come to think of it, merely being a decent Iraqi citizen is not a really sought-after position either. Bloody Hell.

[Shane]

You are absolutely correct! Just because the enemy stops shooting at you does not mean that you have won the war!! You would think that SOMEONE in Washington would understand that.

[Robert_Paulson2]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1111478/posts?page=479#479

has a better idea.

[river rat]

"My post speaks for itself"

Current information and events seem to suggest that YOU were the one out of touch with reality..

At the time of my post --- which strongly recommended prompt and vigorous military response - the military (unknown at the time) was already taking extraordinary steps to address the challenge and threat to overall force protection that the barbarity of the planned ambush represented...

The city was already being surrounded and cut off.. Plans were being developed to reenter, and deliver an "unmistakable" response to the ambush and aftermath..

Those of us with experience or an awareness of the necessity of such measures were apparently sensitive to and justified in our demand for such activity...

I was not suggesting that the war should/could be won in time for the 6pm news --- but simply calling for an immediate and forceful response to an event that DEMANDED swift and deadly consequences...
Punishment delayed, just causes confusion -- in dogs and humans....

Now, perhaps you will take your meds, calm down and simply answer the questions I put to you - to assess your superior knowledge in such matters....

Semper Fi

[Robert_Paulson2]

good post

[LonghornFreeper]

I wasn't really advocating razing Fallujah, I just don't think that people should be allowed to dishonor dead American's without penalty. A quick Apache or AC-130 strike would have been fine with me, not to kill everyone, just enough to get the message. I was in a pretty bad mood last night, so I admit some of what I advocated may have been a little to harsh.
One last thing, I don't think you realize just how fanatical the Germans really were. Tens of thousands of Russian soldiers died storming Berlin, killed by armed German civilians fighting to the last man. Part of the reason the Germans after the war weren't quite so hard to govern as the Iraqis are now is that almost all the fanatics were killed in the final battle for Berlin.

[ASOC]

We have confirmed our friend is OK.

[Cindy]

TALIYAH.org - Taliyah al-Mahdi Forums - Open Discussion: "as-sadr starts the JIHAD IN IRAQ! KILLS dajjaals soldiers!" -Posted by "Need-al-Haqq" on April 5, 2004

[lainde]

bttt

[Atlantic Friend]

I read a lot about WW2, but I've never heard about armed civilians killing tens of thousands of Russians. That Berlin was bitterly defended by what was left of the Wehrmacht and some SS units is well known, and these armed civilians by enlisting them in the Volksturm militia. But I doubt they were this effective, given the fact they were either old men (younger ones had already been mobilized) and teenagers lacking military training.