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To: Notwithstanding
Hmmmm? No annulment granted. He's legally divorced. Civil ceremony for remarriage. I don't see a problem .. except witih the precepts of his church. As to the law .. I'd say he's legally married. The church may not recognize it, but that's a personal matter.

And .. quite frankly, I don't give a rip!
8 posted on 04/02/2004 11:22:48 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: CyberAnt
Do you read the papers or watch the news?

Kerry sells himself as a Catholic candidae.

Thus, HE is campaigining on it - and it goes to his credibility and his character.

One who lies about his religion for personal gain will lie about anything to any one at any time.

CHaracter matters.


12 posted on 04/02/2004 11:28:35 PM PST by Notwithstanding (Good parents don't let their kids attend public school or recieve catechsim lessons from sinky)
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To: CyberAnt
And .. quite frankly, I don't give a rip!

LOL Me either! Geeze, this is the least of the problems with this guy!

15 posted on 04/02/2004 11:34:13 PM PST by ladyinred (Monthly donors don't have to think! Become one now and veg out!)
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To: CyberAnt
Well, it's not a personal matter to the Church ...but I think the main point, regardless of one's own feelings on any of the several issues involved in this matter, is that Kerry may possibly be a double-talking phony in yet another area of his life. If he claims to be a practicing Catholic and is taking the Sacraments each week, is he "playing by the rules" of the church he has chosen? Did he obtain an annulment, and if so was he married in the Church after obtaining it? Kerry is arrogant enough it wouldn't surprise me a bit if it turns out he didn't get the annulment and has been taking the Sacraments all this time anyway...if he did get the annulment, it's a simple matter to provide the date, and that's the end of the matter. What gives? Sheila Kennedy's book on annulments, SHATTERED FAITH, was quite fascinating, by the by.
18 posted on 04/02/2004 11:55:41 PM PST by GOPrincess
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To: CyberAnt
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It is JOHN KERRY that is telling the world that he is a Catholic in good standing while taking the Sacrament of Holy Communion.

But it looks like it's really...

KERRY taking Communion =

Non-Catholic CLINTON taking Communion

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45 posted on 04/03/2004 2:02:17 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: CyberAnt
He's running as a Catholic and some (idiot) Catholics will vote for him because of it. Like my sister.

This is a big deal to anyone in communion with the church.
However, I'd say 3/4ths of the Catholics in America today are not.
50 posted on 04/03/2004 3:10:00 AM PST by netmilsmom (Busybody of Free Republic)
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To: CyberAnt
And .. quite frankly, I don't give a rip!

Personally I don't give a rip either, He hasn't broken any laws.

But there's this issue of lying that the democrats have been pushing. Kerry is a compulsive liar about every detail of his personal life. And that wouldn't be an issue except that he make his personal life into one of his qualifications for office.

Lord knows he can't campaign on his Senate record.

58 posted on 04/03/2004 4:40:15 AM PST by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: CyberAnt
It matters in that Kerry is creating himself a "Sister Soujah" moment w/o consequences. At least BC attacked a group in his own coalition. Kerry makes a big show of how "Catholic" he is, then he turns around and tells the Church that to take a hike on abortion, gay marriage, whatever. Then the media talks up how "courageous" he is, since he's such an ostentatious Catholic. It matters that way.

Also, it's another "character check". He prattles on about what a good Catholic he is, how he was an altar boy, goes to communion, walks around w/ ashes on his head. Hey, you're catholic by the precepts you follow, not which rituals or what you did at 10.
65 posted on 04/03/2004 4:52:25 AM PST by sobieski
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To: CyberAnt
The guy is in favor of abortion, and voted for partial-birth abortion. So, I don't think he really cares about the teachings of the religion he says he belongs to.

And as long as the Princes of the Church are more interested in damage control about homosexual pedophiles and the cash-flow drain that has presented than in enforcing Catholics to live a Catholic life, we can expect this to continue.

I expect that an Islamic Mullah will denounce terrorism long before a Catholic bishop excommunicates a liberal politic an for holding and acting beliefs contrary to church teachings.

69 posted on 04/03/2004 4:59:52 AM PST by White Eagle
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To: CyberAnt
And .. quite frankly, I don't give a rip!

He lies so much, how would you ever know he was telling the truth? The guy lies like a rug.

85 posted on 04/03/2004 6:07:35 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: CyberAnt
You are exactly right -- my opinion, too.
98 posted on 04/03/2004 6:51:28 AM PST by expatpat
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To: CyberAnt
Hmmmm? No annulment granted. He's legally divorced. Civil ceremony for remarriage. I don't see a problem .. except witih the precepts of his church. As to the law .. I'd say he's legally married. The church may not recognize it, but that's a personal matter.

And .. quite frankly, I don't give a rip!

Every word you said I agree with. This is not the area to go after him on.

Besides, I know (and am related to) too many Catholics married to non-Catholics and such. Not all have their marriages blessed in the Church. In fact my co-brownie leader from last year, who is Catholic, just told me last week that on their 20th wedding anniversary she and her husband are finally going to receive the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony. She certainly has participated in the other Sacraments during all of those years.

143 posted on 04/03/2004 1:17:28 PM PST by cyncooper ("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
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