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John Kerry’s Claim of 3 Million Jobs Lost is False: McMahon Disproves Kerry’s Lost Jobs Claim
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | [3 April, 2004] | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 04/02/2004 8:30:31 PM PST by Congressman Billybob

John Kerry has based his claim of economic malfeasance by President Bush on the assertion that “three million jobs have been lost” on his watch. The original claim was 2.7 million jobs lost, but the quarrel here is not over the rounding up to an even three million. Ed McMahon has established over the last four decades that the Kerry claim is false.

We’ll get back to McMahon in a moment. First a dose of statistics.

The Department of Labor has a long and well-earned reputation for accuracy in its statistical analyses. But it has three different ways of measuring unemployment in the American economy. The first is the Employer Survey, in which a random sample of employers known to the Department are asked to report their employment changes. The results from the sample are then projected to the entire economy. This survey is the source of the Kerry claim of 2.7 jobs lost permanently (net loss of jobs) during the Bush Administration.

The second source from the Department is the Household Survey. In this a random sample of households are surveyed for information on whether the adults in them have remained employed, changed jobs, or lost their jobs and not yet replaced them. The results from this sample are then projected to the entire economy. This survey concluded that during the Bush Administration, 750,000 jobs have been GAINED. And this was before Friday’s report that in the most recent month, 308,000 jobs have been gained.

Before we get to the third measurement of American unemployment, why should the first two measurements be so far apart in their results? And, which one is more likely to be correct?

Start with this point. The Employer Survey can only reach those businesses that the Labor Department knows to exist. There is necessarily a lag time between a new business being created, and the Department becoming aware of it. Add to that the fact that the smallest businesses, Mom and Pop operations and small businesses just starting up with a tiny number of employees, are below the Department’s radar.

Then add the fact, long noted by such august sources as the Wall Street Journal, that small businesses are responsible for more than half of the total job growth in the United States over the last forty years. And finally, add the fact that small businesses are born at a faster rate than large ones in good economic times. They also and die at a faster rate in bad economic times.

The conclusion is obvious. The Employer Survey will always understate the job losses in bad times, and understate the job creation in good times.

The Household Survey, on the other hand, assuming its random survey is properly constructed, will answer the question of whether people are currently employed by any kind of business, including start-up ones or sole proprietor ones. This survey should give current information. It should not lag behind reality in either direction, of jobs lost or jobs gained.

Therefore, the Kerry claim is based on false information. And anyone whose intent was to state the truth and act on that, rather than make political points regardless of the truth, would know that.

The third measure of unemployment proves the point. And Ed McMahon has nailed the point down for four decades and counting.

Forty years ago, I worked for a firm that dealt, in part, with direct mail advertising. When the Publishers Clearing House began its then-one million dollar giveaway with Ed McMahon as its spokesman, I asked some experts in the field the logic behind giving away a million dollars, plus the payments to Ed McMahon and the phenomenal costs of running the advertisements, in order to promote the sale of magazines from Chain Saw Age (a real magazine) to Barbie Gets a Hickey (a fictitious magazine, just for fun). Here are the reasons:

Prior to the creation of that campaign, folks like the Publishers Clearing House hired thousands of cubicle workers to use phone directories, cris-cross directories, and all other possible sources to build mailing lists. It was their task to find out that Jane Doe had married and her name was now Jane Smith. Or to find out that John Jones had moved across town or across the nation, and what his new address was.

This process was time-consuming, expensive, and always lagged behind current reality on the ground. Enter the Ed McMahon give-away program with its original one million dollar top prize that has since grown to ten million dollars. (In the fine print that campaign points out both that the prizes are paid out over 19 years, therefore a much smaller amount in current dollars than the stated prize. The small print also indicates that “no purchase is necessary.” Many new magazine subscribers miss those points. But I digress.) Why does the McMahon program succeed? Because it is based on the fundamental economic incentive.

It is based on greed.

People who think that sending in their correct name and address might gain them a million dollars or more have the incentive to do exactly that. And furthermore, they will give the address they are moving to in the next few months, if that applies, for the same reason. For Publishers Clearing House, the total cost and accuracy of this method of getting addresses are better than under the old method.

What does the Department of Labor do that is similar to Ed McMahon? It gives away money. (Actually, the money is both state and federal, but the feds control the process.) Sure, it’s not in one large lump to one very delighted family, but in small amounts weekly. But the incentive is the same. People have to give their real names and addresses in order to receive their money. I’m leaving aside the aspect of fraud by applicants, because there is no reason to believe that is proportionally any worse today than it was in the Clinton Administration, or in any administration prior to that.

The current unemployment rate is 5.7% as of last Friday. Coincidentally, that is nearly identical to the average unemployment rate during the Clinton Administration, which the Democrats offer as the shining economic results that we have lost, and therefore ought to return to. If there really were three million people who had lost their jobs and not found new ones, the unemployment rate could not possibly stand at 5.7%. Again, the Kerry claim is proved false.

There is also the point that 5.7% unemployment is, according to most economists, close to the level that will set off inflation as job demand in specific categories or places becomes more than the available employees, driving pay rates up in a bidding war. All economic systems have certain slack rates. It is impossible to avoid. Apartment complexes can approach but never reach, 100% occupancy. The same goes for airlines. And for factory use. You get the idea.

The fall-back position of the Democrats is this, which I heard most recently last week from Congressman Rick Fazio on TV: “Well, the official statistics don’t account for people who don’t have jobs and have given up looking.” The question of whether people have “dropped out” of the job market because of long-term frustration is an important one that has long been studied in detail. A Heritage Foundation report issued last week pinned down the figures on this.

During the Clinton Administration, the “drop out” rate from the job markets was 0.23%. Today it stands at 0.30%. That is a very slight difference, It cannot account for three million people out of work, permanently.

One last point about the Kerry claim on lost jobs. The sales pitch includes the claim that “Bush is as bad as Hoover.” Given the average level of cultural illiteracy among Americans today, the reactions to that statement might be, “What do vacuum cleaners have to do with unemployment?” Or for those who are a little more knowledgeable, “What does the former head of the F.B.I, have to do with unemployment?”

For those who recall that Herbert Hoover was President at the time the Great Depression began, there are still statistical games being played by the Democrats. When Hoover was President, the national population was about 40% of what it is today. And most households had a single wage-earner, the reverse of today’s pattern where most households have two wage-earners.

Bottom line, if the unemployment rate now (Bush) was as bad as it was then (Hoover), approximately 12 million extra people would have to be out of work. Even the Democrats, if pushed, would have to admit the falsity of this claim. By the way, John Kerry reduced his job loss claim to 2.6 million in a statement released on Friday.

There is a line that I didn’t use more than forty years ago when I was debating John Kerry and his views in the Political Union at Yale University. It applied then, but it also applies now. Here it is: “You, sir, are far too intelligent to believe what you just said. I am therefore compelled to conclude that you are a liar.”

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About the Author: John Armor is an author and columnist on politics and history. He currently has an Exploratory Committee to run for Congress.

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©) 2004, Congressman Billybob & John Armor. All rights reserved.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2004; edmcmahon; employersurvey; householdsurvey; johnkerry; kerrylies; unemployment
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To: Congressman Billybob
“You, sir, are far too intelligent to believe what you just said. I am therefore compelled to conclude that you are a liar.”

That is definately a keeper.

Blessings, Bobo
21 posted on 04/02/2004 9:58:16 PM PST by bobo1
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To: Peach
Those are some great stats.

It would help to have some documented sources referenced to back them up. Otherwise the Rats will just say they are lies.

22 posted on 04/02/2004 10:01:09 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Congressman Billybob
I recall reading and hearing that it takes a year after the end of a recession for job growth to occur, apparently a fairly basic economic principle.
23 posted on 04/02/2004 10:03:19 PM PST by skr (Pro-life from cradle to grave)
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To: Jorge
Every statistic has been documented in gummint research articles posted on FR in the last few days. The only exception are the statistics from the Heritage Foundation (which in turn used gummint statistics). But that, too, was posted on FR yesterday or the day before.

Golly, one can learn a lot just by clicking on FreeRepublic. Who'd a thunk it?

Thanks, diligent FReepers.

John / Billybob

24 posted on 04/02/2004 10:10:51 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Every statistic has been documented in gummint research articles posted on FR in the last few days.

I believe you and I believe the stats.

However, documentation should preferably be referenced along WITH the stats when they are quoted.
Who's going to dig through thousands of FR posts researching to find supporting documentation? Not me.

25 posted on 04/02/2004 10:26:33 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Congressman Billybob
Hey, BB -- you've got Freepmail. You still out there?

FF

26 posted on 04/02/2004 10:45:30 PM PST by Felicity Fahrquar (Never try to teach a pig to sing. You will waste your time, and you'll annoy the pig.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thank you so much for this great info. I have been hoping somebody would be able to prove Bush didn't lose 3 million jobs.
27 posted on 04/02/2004 11:59:01 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Excellent points!

Here's another data point: Two weeks ago I drove over to Seattle's fashionable University Village mall, near oh-so-lefty University of Washington campus, and I couldn't find a parking place to save my life. It was like the Christmas rush all over again. I muttered to myself...

"Darn this recovery! It's all Bush's fault!"

28 posted on 04/03/2004 12:19:02 AM PST by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: jennyp
I heard John Kerry claim today that in four years the Bush Administration has caused the loss of over SEVEN MILLION JOBS. Can somebody find and post this newest fabrication?
29 posted on 04/03/2004 12:27:15 AM PST by ANDY72632 (BUSH 2004)
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To: Congressman Billybob
UPDATE... John Kerry quote from ABC Radio News 3AM CST 04/03/2004. "The Bush Administration has fallen SEVEN MILLION jobs short...."

Also John Kerry wants to take credit for the "ten million" IRS Form 1099 [and other self employment and contract] jobs not included in the current employment figures. Because,if he gets elected, those are the "ten million" jobs he said he would immediately create.

30 posted on 04/03/2004 1:57:24 AM PST by ANDY72632 (BUSH 2004)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I've been wondering how many of these "discouraged" workers who have "dropped out" of the job market are actually making their livings (or supplementing other income) selling stuff on eBay? The company claims 2003 sales via eBay is $24 billion, 971 million individual item listings, with 41 million "active" registered users. I'd wager that all this activity is totally absent from the employment statistics.
31 posted on 04/03/2004 2:16:57 AM PST by Fresh Wind (George Bush kills terrorists. Bill Clinton pardons them. John Al-Qerry will apologize to them.)
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To: Jorge
My letter to the editor was published over a month ago.

At that time, I posted the letter on FR as well as the stats. I'm not going to go look them all up again.

The left can say what it wishes but the stats all came from Wall Street articles, census data, Larry Kudlow, and government web sites regarding unemployment information.
32 posted on 04/03/2004 3:09:24 AM PST by Peach
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To: ANDY72632
John Kerry wants to claim credit for the ten million EMPLOYED people that are not included in the 138+ million employed workers total (estimate). These currently working employees are IRS Form 1099 (sub contract and self-employed).

Now you know how John 'Fudging' Kerry plans to CREATE "ten million jobs".

33 posted on 04/03/2004 4:09:08 AM PST by ANDY72632 (BUSH 2004)
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To: Koblenz
I'm a consultant, but most of my work goes through a consulting firm that treats me like an employee, because of IRS regulations. So I have FICA deducted along with medical insurance. But I only get paid when I am actually consulting. Otherwise I use my accrued vacation and the savings account we have for just this purpose.

When I find my own work for fees, I need to get back on the consulting firm payroll every now and then to keep the medical insurance functional. Our regular health care providers don't like the idea that I go on and off COBRA every now and then, but their admin costs should be built into their rates, or else they could hire me to consult on how to improve their margin.

One more point - 30 years ago my Economics professors told me that 6% unemployment was average, and 4.0% was full employment - the economy actually suffers if unemployment goes under 4.0%. I guess things have changed since then.

And, if we (the politicians) really wanted to get 200,000-500,000 AMERICANS back to work in high-paying computer technology jobs, all we (the politicians) need to do is revoke all the H1B visas and send those people back to get in line for a normal visa. And those would be jobs that Americans want.

34 posted on 04/03/2004 4:20:14 AM PST by White Eagle
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To: Congressman Billybob
Excellent analysis.
35 posted on 04/03/2004 4:38:13 AM PST by eeriegeno
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To: eeriegeno
If 5.7% is coupled with historically-low interest rates and almost no inflationary pressure, it is just about perfection in real terms for an economy.

Those who are currently unemployed may not agree with the philosophy of STEADY SUSTAINABLE GROWTH, but the effect of even lower unemployment is an euphoric BOOM followed by an agonizing inevitable BUST.

People can be hurt permanently by the BUST phase, but Clinton didn't give a phuck, as he was looking for the spotlight and a legacy other than Sink Emperor.

I'll take a predictable and rational BUSH BOOM anyday.
36 posted on 04/03/2004 5:02:21 AM PST by Enduring Freedom (Warrior Freepers Rule The Earth)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Bump for later reading!
37 posted on 04/03/2004 6:06:16 AM PST by alwaysconservative (Annoy liberals: buy conservative books and hire conservatives looking for work!)
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To: Congressman Billybob; Willie Green
Nice job Congressman.

Nice job.
38 posted on 04/03/2004 6:11:50 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Pátria, pero sin amo.)
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To: jennyp
Here's another data point: Two weeks ago I drove over to Seattle's fashionable University Village mall, near oh-so-lefty University of Washington campus, and I couldn't find a parking place to save my life.

When hasn't it been like that? There's a lack of adequate parking all over Seattle.

What's really annoying is that some lot owners (in particular the I Love Sushi / Bluwater one on Lake Union) just shrink down the size of each space to magically make "more" of them. Nevermind that 1/3 of all cars are SUVs that go there.
39 posted on 04/03/2004 6:59:42 AM PST by lelio
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To: Luis Gonzalez
My take on this.

We lost many manufacturing jobs because:

1. Corporate owners are sick of being blackmailed by unions are are either shutting down or moving jobs.

2. Chain reaction. It is cheaper to manufacture overseas and the industries that tie into manufacturing also lose jobs.

3. The dot.com explosion created many technology jobs. Dot.com bubble burst, jobs gone. Of course companies like EMC, Lucent, CISCO provided all the dot.coms with hardware. These were the companies that had to lay off. When you go from 200k employees to 40k that's a big hit.

4. Plain ole stupidity. You have to let companies do what they do best. Create product, market product, make money. This way they can add jobs, create more product.....




40 posted on 04/03/2004 7:00:59 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz
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