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Copyright violations: Please do not post full text from SF Chronicle and SF Gate
Email message from sfgate.com
| April 2, 2004
| John Angelico, SF Gate
Posted on 04/02/2004 3:25:42 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Subject: Copyright violations in re: SF Chronicle
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:15:25 -0800 (PST)
From: John Angelico
To: jimrob@psnw.com
Dear freerepublic.com,
It has come to our attention that you have copyrighted SF Chronicle and SF Gate articles posted within your Message Board area. Here's an example:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1091396/posts
Our policy is to allow other sites to link to our site, but not to host our material. This policy ensures that our traffic numbers will be sufficient enough to maintain our free archives, which benefits everyone.
Please remove these full text posts (or replace them w/ abstracts and links to the full article on our site). Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.
John Angelico sfgate.com
TOPICS: Announcements; Free Republic; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adminlectureseries; copyrightviolations; excerpt; faq; freep; freerepubliczotted; sfchronicle; sfcrackhole; sfgate; zot; zotfreerepublic
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, they asked nicely.
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posted on
04/02/2004 3:52:06 PM PST
by
nuconvert
("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( President Bush 3-20-04))
To: leadpenny
Give 'em what they want, Jim. Prohibit anything to do with the SF Cronicle. No links. No excerpts. Nothing! Who needs 'em? Actually, the Chronicle is one of the few newspapers whose archives are still free. I find that very handy.
-PJ
To: glock rocks
Only Miss Morford could have written that. It has such a distinctive, screechy, incoherent style.
23
posted on
04/02/2004 3:54:24 PM PST
by
CFC__VRWC
(AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
To: Jim Robinson
I really feel for you guys..I don't see how you can possibly keep up with checking all of the articles to make sure they are following guidelines....I can't thank you all enough for the hard work you and your helpers do.
24
posted on
04/02/2004 3:54:59 PM PST
by
Freedom2specul8
(Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
To: Political Junkie Too
Free archives are nice. The Contra Costa Times charges to retrieve old articles - the last time I retrieved one (quite some time ago) it was $1.95. I prefer free.
25
posted on
04/02/2004 3:55:22 PM PST
by
.38sw
To: presidio9
Her stories were getting lazier and more confused in the lead-up. Either that, or the doctors are still looking for the other gerbil.Maybe Lemmiwinks finally got his revenge.
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posted on
04/02/2004 3:55:57 PM PST
by
CFC__VRWC
(AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
To: presidio9
Well, if Miss Morford is gone, I can't think of a single other thing we need from sfgate.
To: FreedomCalls
Good reason for follow-up excerpts in the thread for key passages of the article.
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posted on
04/02/2004 3:56:38 PM PST
by
cinFLA
To: Jim Robinson
LOL! I was wondering when this would happen. Many of those articles have been changed. When you post an excerpt, they can claim you took it out of context. If you go to their archives, you'll find that the article no longer resembles the article you posted an excerpt from. They like to be able to clean things up when they get caught lying.
Limbaugh posts the full articles for his members just to prove they changed. Seems like FreeRepublic should have the same right...
29
posted on
04/02/2004 3:57:40 PM PST
by
radioman
To: Jim Robinson
SF Gate/Chronicle are excerpt only. Got it.
30
posted on
04/02/2004 3:58:30 PM PST
by
mhking
(Burma Shave.)
To: hellinahandcart; Jim Robinson
Hmmmm, too bad the SF newspapers aren't putting as much effort into investigating the activities of moveon.org
They could have a major scoop on their hands.
31
posted on
04/02/2004 4:01:30 PM PST
by
LisaMalia
(In Memory of Sgt. James W. Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
To: Jim Robinson
I've added them to our growing list of excerpt only publications.Jim, is this list published somewhere?
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posted on
04/02/2004 4:03:17 PM PST
by
upchuck
(I am upchuck and I approved this message because... well, just because.)
To: radioman
Well the solution is to continue posting as normal, but have the viewing software extract an abstract (first para) even thou the entire article is available. Then allow a command in the link like "complete=true" over ride the abstracting logic and retreive the entire article. I'm a pretty sure I could make my forum work that way. So I am certin FR can too.
33
posted on
04/02/2004 4:04:51 PM PST
by
jpsb
(Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
To: radioman
"They like to be able to clean things up when they get caught lying."
Why, you make them sound like the Ministry of Information from "1984". Surely their journalistic integrity would preclude them even considering such a thing.
34
posted on
04/02/2004 4:08:29 PM PST
by
NewRomeTacitus
(Falluja? What Falluja!? That big, smoking hole over there? (if I had MY say)
To: radioman
That's very interesting! It gives me the idea that we should save the articles to disk when we post them...or post the entire article on a geocities website for a period of time. When the thread gets dead, then the article could be deleted.
:)
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posted on
04/02/2004 4:11:30 PM PST
by
Freedom2specul8
(Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
To: hellinahandcart
I can't think of a single other thing we need from sfgate.
I like their "Weird News". Funny stuff there...
36
posted on
04/02/2004 4:23:33 PM PST
by
ErnBatavia
(Gay marriage is for suckers...)
To: jpsb
Would the viewing software be able to recognize the article in the post?
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posted on
04/02/2004 4:24:02 PM PST
by
radioman
To: NewRomeTacitus
their journalistic integrity
LMAO...Good one!
38
posted on
04/02/2004 4:27:45 PM PST
by
radioman
To: everyone
To; John Angelico
Dear sfgate.com,
It has come to my attention that you have forbidden me from posting copyrighted SF Chronicle articles.
This troubles me as I have subscribed to the Chronicle for over 40 years and feel that I have paid for the right to post verbatim articles at FR's Message Board area.
I doubt you would dispute that I have the right to copy and post such articles on any bulletin board in town for discussion purposes.
You even urge me to go to your website & send these same copyrighted articles to friends. -- And that is exactly what I am doing when I post them at FR.
Thus, - your stance on this matter is irrational. The news you publish will be discussed on websites like FR, with or without posting your copy verbatim.
-- You are playing a losing game by alienating your subscribers.
39
posted on
04/02/2004 4:29:14 PM PST
by
tpaine
(In arrogance a few powermad infinitely shrewd imbeciles attempt to lay down the law for all of us)
To: radioman
Yea, what would happen is that the extracted abstract would go into a databse or a separate text file. during normal viewing the abstract would be retrieved, but if the link contained the override then the full article would be retrieved.
Another approach that might work, thou harder to code, would be to attempt to validate the link to the orginal article, if that failed then skip the abstract and get the full version. I might play around a bit.
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posted on
04/02/2004 4:30:33 PM PST
by
jpsb
(Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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