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Eerie calms grips Fallujah after gruesome killings, Bremer vows revenge (Fed the dead to the dogs)
AFP ^ | Thu, Apr 01, 2004 | AFP

Posted on 04/01/2004 6:36:06 AM PST by Eurotwit

FALLUJAH, Iraq (AFP) - An eerie calm gripped this town west of Baghdad, a day after four American civilians were burned to death and their bodies dismembered, as US overseer Paul Bremer vowed the deaths and those of five US soldiers in a separate attack would be avenged.

"Their deaths will not go unpunished. They have not died in vain," Bremer said in Baghdad as he attended the graduation of a new batch of 479 Iraqi police at the police academy.

Bremer described Wednesday's attacks by insurgents in and near Fallujah as "inexcusable and despicable".

But he vowed that the US-led coalition that toppled the ironfisted regime of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) almost a year ago will forge ahead with efforts to restore security in Iraq (news - web sites) and hand over sovereignty to the Iraqis on July 1.

"They will not derail the march towards stability and democracy," Bremer told the new police cadets.

Reaction was also fierce from Washington, where White House spokesman Scott McClellan said: "We condemn these attacks on the strongest possible terms".

In Fallujah, schools and shops were open on Thursday and burn marks on the surface of the main street were the only evidence of the gruesome deaths of the four employees of the private US firm Blackwater Security Consulting, AFP correspondents said.

One witness said that what remained of the charred bodies after they were dragged from their cars, mutilated and strung from a bridge had been "cut up into pieces, with parts thrown into the river or to the dogs".

Residents also took away the carcasses of the two four-wheel-drive vehicles that had been ambushed and set on fire by gunmen, burning the occupants to death, the witness said.

US marines, who were seen Wednesday at the eastern entrance of Fallujah, were nowhere in sight while Iraqi police and paramilitary defence units manned a checkpoint to search cars entering the town and control identities.

The previous evening, hours after the killings, crowds were still celebrating in the streets, with people firing in the air and distributing candies.

They shouted, "Down with the occupation, down with America" and "long live Islam."

"The death of each one of these people is worth 10 Iraqi lives. This is our only deterrence to the (US-led) occupation of Iraq," Nayef, a car merchant who declined to give his surname, told AFP on Thursday.

The previous day a man at the scene, his face hidden by a scarf, vowed that "Fallujah will be the cemetery of the Americans".

Meanwhile the US-backed paramilitary Iraqi Civil Defence Corps urged restraint in Fallujah in a statement handed out to residents late Wednesday.

"An agreement has been negotiated with the occupation forces to lift the siege of Fallujah and to withdraw. We are hoping you will cooperate to protect Fallujah and guarantee its security," the message said.

The death of the four civilians coincided with a roadside bomb blast that killed five US soldiers near the military base in Habbaniya, just west of Fallujah.

It is thought to be the worst single incident involving coalition troops since a US military helicopter was downed on January 8 near Fallujah, killing all nine people aboard.

The latest deaths brought to 291 the number of US soldiers killed in action since US President George W. Bush (news - web sites) declared major hostilities over on May 1, according to an AFP toll.

In other violence Thursday one US soldier was wounded when his convoy hit a roadside bomb in northwest Baghdad, an Iraqi police officer said. The US military did not immediately confirm the report.

And in the northern city of Kirkuk three soldiers were wounded when five Katyusha rockets struck their base located in a local airport just west of the city early Thursday, a US officer said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fallujah; iraq; lpaulbremer
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To: chachacha
Don't get your hopes up. The next time you see the head of that teenager will be from the back -- he's going to be driving a cab in New York City in a few years.

41 posted on 04/01/2004 7:00:27 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE north strong and free.)
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To: mewzilla
Agincout
42 posted on 04/01/2004 7:00:43 AM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: Skooz
they invented the word "shampoo," too.

I just checked dictionary.com. The word shampoo is listed as having Hindi origins. Sorry, the Arabs swiped that from the Indians too.

Now I'm curious if the Arabs have invented anything positive at all.

43 posted on 04/01/2004 7:01:01 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing. - Ann Coulter 4/1/04, How 9-11 Happened)
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To: KarlInOhio
Arabs contributed the concept of Zero to the world centuries ago

Hey, that's not fair! Since then they've also contributed Hummas and the concept of goat shagging!

44 posted on 04/01/2004 7:01:02 AM PST by Ashamed Canadian
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To: Eurotwit
Grab a bunch of those little pukes off the street, coat them in pigfat, light them on fire and drop them out of helicopters. Then comes the MOAB and the customary "rain of pork rinds" after the rubble stops bouncing.
45 posted on 04/01/2004 7:01:32 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (I could never vote for a guy with a chin like that.)
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To: Eurotwit
Killing those men was one thing. Mutiliating their bodies and hanging them up was another.

Level the city. No quarter.

46 posted on 04/01/2004 7:01:33 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: sarasota
This has been posted here before, but on the subject of appeasement, Bremer et al should consider this, from Osama's 1996 "declaration of war against the west"--

Few days ago the news agencies had reported that the Defence Secretary of the Crusading Americans had said that "the explosion at Riyadh and Al-Khobar had taught him one lesson: that is not to withdraw when attacked by coward terrorists".

We say to the Defence Secretary that his talk can induce a grieving mother to laughter! and shows the fears that had enshrined you all. Where was this false courage of yours when the explosion in Beirut took place on 1983 AD (1403 A.H). You were turned into scattered bits and pieces at that time; 241 mainly marines solders were killed. And where was this courage of yours when two explosions made you to leave Aden in less than twenty four hours!

But your most disgraceful case was in Somalia; where- after vigorous propaganda about the power of the USA and its post cold war leadership of the new world order- you moved tens of thousands of international force, including twenty eight thousands American solders into Somalia. However, when tens of your solders were killed in minor battles and one American Pilot was dragged in the streets of Mogadishu you left the area carrying disappointment, humiliation, defeat and your dead with you. Clinton appeared in front of the whole world threatening and promising revenge , but these threats were merely a preparation for withdrawal. You have been disgraced by Allah and you withdrew; the extent of your impotence and weaknesses became very clear. It was a pleasure for the "heart" of every Muslim and a remedy to the "chests" of believing nations to see you defeated in the three Islamic cities of Beirut , Aden and Mogadishu.

I say to Secretary of Defence: The sons of the land of the two Holy Places had come out to fight against the Russian in Afghanistan, the Serb in Bosnia-Herzegovina and today they are fighting in Chechenia and -by the Permission of Allah- they have been made victorious over your partner, the Russians. By the command of Allah, they are also fighting in Tajakistan.

Source.(Warning--this site seems to have a lot of popups--turn on your popup blocker before visiting.)

47 posted on 04/01/2004 7:02:09 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: section9
As much as I detest the man, what I wouldn't give to have General Sherman resurrected just about now.
48 posted on 04/01/2004 7:04:03 AM PST by Darnright
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To: Eurotwit
The day before is when the AFP was probably tipped off an ambush was planned and they were therefore on hand to record the festivities of the other hyenas.
49 posted on 04/01/2004 7:05:25 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Eurotwit
Part of the reason the military didn't treat this as SOP, clean up and recover, etc, is that they rightly saw this required new policy. That new policy has probably been formulated and approved.

Fallujah is founded on tribal (as in Mafia) lines. The rackets and resistance operate through this structure. The likely scenario is that they cordoned Fallujah first thing, although the direct perps may have gotten away. The next step is probably going to be a street by street search and the arrest of all the principal tribal leaders and imams. Maybe 2,000 arrests, thousands of weapons confiscated. The principal businesses of the tribal leaders will be boarded up as crime scenes. Informers will be sown, and people known to be sympathetic will be insinuated into leading posts.

Experience shows that the perps will eventually come back. If not, the huge interrogation will be produce enough leads to find them and much else besides. The process will gut Fallujah's old tribal structure. It will be devastating and horribly effective. But there will be no collective punishment.

50 posted on 04/01/2004 7:06:34 AM PST by wretchard
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To: Bigg Red
Let's call Islam what it is. It is a cult. No different from the Jim Jones cult, Branch Davidian cult, Charles Manson cult, Hitler's Nazi party cult, etc.. I heard, AGAIN, that Islam is a "religion" of peace during the report on this abomonation. Bravo Sierra. It is a cult and NOTHING ELSE!!!!!
51 posted on 04/01/2004 7:06:40 AM PST by NCC-1701 (Support Mel Gibson and "The Passion of the Christ")
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To: MizSterious
Thank you for this very relevant reminder. Why is there no show of force? Are we practicing a new form of appeasement/cowardice?
52 posted on 04/01/2004 7:07:02 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Eurotwit; All
"An agreement has been negotiated with the occupation forces to lift the siege of Fallujah and to withdraw. We are hoping you will cooperate to protect Fallujah and guarantee its security," the message said.

We have learned nothing it seems.

53 posted on 04/01/2004 7:08:32 AM PST by expatguy
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To: tiamat
"I'd shell the joint."

I'd raze the city and feed the remains to the hogs.

54 posted on 04/01/2004 7:09:42 AM PST by davisfh
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To: Eurotwit
Time to wipe Fallujah off the face of the earth.
55 posted on 04/01/2004 7:09:52 AM PST by al_c
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To: MizSterious
You know what's ironic about that statement? Osama bin Laden was absolutely right.

We like to think that the Bush administration is different than the Clinton administration -- and for the most part it is. But there is no getting around the fact that the United States is a nation of people who quickly lose interest in things like war.

As far as I was concerned, the "war on terror" officially ended when the same U.S. Congress that couldn't agree on funding the war effort voted almost unanimously to protect this nation from the horrific, lethal threat . . . of telemarketers.

56 posted on 04/01/2004 7:10:46 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE north strong and free.)
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To: boxerblues
I don't have a very high opinion of journalists, but without the AFP/AP crews, we wouldn't have the faces of the perpetrators of this bloody desecration of the victims' charred remains...
57 posted on 04/01/2004 7:11:52 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: Atlantic Friend
If the reporter wouldn't of been there, there wouldn't of been this brutal murder and mutilation. Muslins are always playing up to the camera.
58 posted on 04/01/2004 7:14:27 AM PST by boxerblues
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To: devane617
A valid opportunity for a tactical nuclear hit.

Send these primitives a solid message: don't f**k with us.

59 posted on 04/01/2004 7:17:01 AM PST by americanSoul (Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees. Live Free or Die. I should be in New Hampshire.)
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To: sarasota
>Thank you for this very relevant reminder. Why is there no show of force? Are we practicing a new form of appeasement/cowardice?<

My guess is this is the calm before the storm.
60 posted on 04/01/2004 7:17:14 AM PST by Darnright
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