[Sabertooth]

[TBP]

Kerry can't recall being at '71 parley

Probably too stoned.

[Mo1]

Btt for a morning read

[js1138]

Pandora is missing some of her files also.

[GrandMoM]

BUMP FOR MORN!!

[Sabertooth]

But another FBI report from the same period adds that an informant at the Kansas City meeting heard a "vastly more militant posture," prompting an FBI official to add this cautionary note: "Some information reports by various informants is at variance and considering extreme importance of developments in this matter and intense interest of other government agencies, it is essential that full details of meeting be ascertained accurately and immediately." The reports indicate that the FBI information about Kerry came not from FBI agents but from informants who fed information to the government. Thus, the reliability of the reports is difficult to verify.

[Cindy]

Well, God bless Mr. Kerry's poor old, tired brain.
He can't recall....

Hillary has a hard time recalling things, too.

Democrat disease?

Well, I guess this "can't recall" business is one
more item Hillary and JFKerry have in common.

Yep. Great leaders in the making in these troublesome times.

[Sabertooth]

FYI

(Let me know if you want on or off my VVAW ping list.)

[squidly]

Many members of the organization agreed with Barnes that Kerry sought to moderate the group and that he quit the organization in 1971 when he could not come to terms with some of the more radical members the group.

This is the key paragraph, IMO. From what I've gathered, it is also probably true. Even the people who have stated that JK was at the KC meeting have said that he argued (apparently successfully) against the assassination plan. That's why I think this issue is a non-starter.

Even if my above paragraph is true, I suppose that if enough noise is made about it, it could be damaging to him. And why not play it that way? It's the way he plays it.

[governsleastgovernsbest]

I find it hard to believe that Kerry "can't recall" a meeting of a group in which he had been active and at which someone proposed assassinating senior government leaders.

That is not the kind of experience that someone forgets.

Therefore, since he has not adamantly denied it, I tend to believe that he was there.

[Yaelle]

It sounds like the reason the conservo-media is not going with this story is that no one other than some eyewitnesses put him at the meeting and say that he was present for the voting. No one can get a good corroboration and they must all be afraid of being sued for libel or something.

And now some of the witnesses have changed their addled minds about Kerry being there, and Kerry supporter Nicosia had some explosive files "stolen" days after this story started to go national.

Well, gee.

How conveeeenient.

[skr]

Personally, I think I'd remember voting on assassination as a policy.

[Yaelle]

"If there are valid FBI surveillance reports from credible sources that place some of those disagreements in Kansas City, we accept that historical footnote in the account of his work to end the difficult and divisive war."

Now, what exact day did Kerry's campaign say the above, and what exact day thereafter did the Nicosia FBI files go "stolen"? I don't think there were more than 4 days between the two events.

Must just be a coincidence. Nothing to see here.

[beckett]

Quite honestly, I am not absolutely certain that John Kerry was at that meeting," Barnes said about the Kansas City session.

Randy Barnes stands at the gates of Canossa in sackcloth and ashes.

[Sabertooth]

A third key player, Randy Barnes, who headed the Kansas City chapter that hosted the meeting, has been quoted in the media as saying Kerry was there. But in a telephone interview, Barnes said he may have confused that session with an earlier one in St. Louis and now is unsure whether Kerry attended the Kansas City function.

"Quite honestly, I am not absolutely certain that John Kerry was at that meeting," Barnes said about the Kansas City session. "A meeting occurred in St. Louis and one occurred in Kansas City. I thought the Kansas City meeting was first."

But Barnes said he now realizes that "the St. Louis meeting was first. What I had thought was a certain thing, I am absolutely not sure now."

In any case, Barnes said, the plot suggested by Camil was never taken seriously and was quickly shouted down. As for Kerry, Barnes said, "John constantly gave an impassioned plea to be nonviolent, work within the system."

John Kerry's Political Friends
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Kerry's Campaign Asked A [Disabled] Veteran To Change Story - KC Meeting At Issue
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Kerry hedges on 1971 KC meeting [for assassination plot]
			Posted by nwrep On 03/19/2004 8:38:34 PM PST with 72 comments Knight Ridder ^ | March 19, 2004 | SCOTT CANON KANSAS CITY - (KRT) - Confronted with 32-year-old FBI records, Sen. John Kerry's campaign all but conceded he attended a 1971 Kansas City meeting where a fellow anti-war veteran called for political assassinations. < -snip- > Last week, John Hurley, an organizer of veteran volunteers for Kerry's presidential run, called two men who were quoted in The Star as recalling Kerry attending the Kansas City meeting. John Musgrave of Baldwin City, Kan., said Hurley called him twice and in the second conversation asked the disabled veteran to contact the newspaper reporter to say he had doubts about the memory. "He said, `I'd like you to consider that before that article comes out call him and tell him you were wrong,' " said Musgrave, who has expressed disappointment with Kerry's position on issues regarding prisoners of war. Hurley said Friday he believed last week Musgrave was simply mistaken. "I asked him to be very sure of his recollection, not to change his recollection," Hurley said. "I would apologize to John Musgrave if he thought in any way I was pressuring him." Another veteran, Randy Barnes of Kansas City, said Hurley had contacted him but did not prompt him to question his memory, although his certainty about the fact wavered after their conversation.
FBI verifies Kerry at 'assassination summit'
			Posted by doug from upland On 03/23/2004 4:11:42 PM PST with 68 comments World Net Daily ^ | 3-23-04 | Scott Stanley, Jr. ELECTION 2004 FBI verifies Kerry at 'assassination summit' Records back claim he was at meeting that discussed killing senators Posted: March 23, 2004 5:00 p.m. Eastern Editor's note: WorldNetDaily is pleased to have a content-sharing agreement with Insight magazine, the bold Washington publication not afraid to ruffle establishment feathers. Subscribe to Insight at WorldNetDaily's online store and save 71 percent off the cover price. By Scott Stanley Jr. © 2004 Insight/News World Communications Inc. News management may have reached an embarrassing low in the Los Angeles Times for March 23 where an article by staff writer John M. Glionna purports to offer...
KERRY RETREATS FROM HIS DENIAL ON VIETNAM MEET - Evidence Puts Him At Kansas Parley
			Posted by kennedy On 03/19/2004 9:07:07 AM PST with 422 comments New York Sun ^ | Mar 19, 2004 | JOSH GERSTEIN MILL VALLEY, Calif. — Senator Kerry of Massachusetts yesterday retreated from his earlier steadfast denials that he attended a meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War at which a plan to assassinate U.S. Senators was debated. The reversal came as new evidence, including reports from FBI informants, emerged that contradicted Mr. Kerry’s previous statements about the gathering, which was held in Kansas City, Mo. in November 1971. “John Kerry had no personal recollection of this meeting 33 years ago,” a Kerry campaign spokesman, David Wade, said in a statement e-mailed last night from Idaho, where Mr. Kerry is on vacation....

[teletech]

I guess since the documents were stolen, he feels safe to deny ever attending that 1971 meeting. This man sits at the pinnacle of EVIL right next to the Clintons.

[samtheman]

Let's find out if he was there or not and make an issue of it. In the meantime, let's see that Dick Cavett debate between Kerry and O'Neill played over and over again. That debate shows what a commie Kerry really is.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

This is as much as saying he was there and got caught lying.

[jellybean]

Senator John F. Kerry said through a spokesman this week that he has no recollection of attending a November 1971 meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War at which some activists discussed a plot to kill some US senators who backed the war.

"Senator Kerry does not remember attending the Kansas City meeting," Kerry spokesman Michael Meehan said in a statement to the Globe in response to written questions about the matter. "Kerry does not remember any discussions that you referred to," the statement added, referring to the assassination plot.

snip...

But last week, the Kerry campaign seemed to leave open the possibility that he had attended the November session, after historian Gerald Nicosia said he had found an FBI document that he said indicated that Kerry was there. As a result of Nicosia's assertion, Kerry's campaign said in a statement that while Kerry did not remember being at the meeting, "If there are valid FBI surveillance reports from credible sources that place some of those disagreements in Kansas City, we accept that historical footnote in the account of his work to end the difficult and divisive war."

Interesting how the story changed once those valid FBI surveillnace reports came up missing.

[Happy2BMe]

Thank you for the ping on Kerry.

You are doing a great job keeping us informed and it is much appreciated.

[kabar]

The FBI has not authorized a separate release of the files, although it is studying pending requests.

I hope one of those pending requests is from the RNC.