[Budge]

I am at a loss for words.

Finally talked to the doctor. He told me nothing more than what he said last Monday, that the stone is not in the kidney, he doesn't know where it is.

HE said it MAY be the bladder, but isn't sure. He also said I MAY have passed it.

I asked him that if it is/was as large as it was, wouldn't I have known if I had passed it.

He told me yes, I would, very much so.

Well, I haven't, and he did not set up another appointment. So I guess he's through with me, even though I still have quite a bit of pain!

I can't thank y'all enough for all the prayers! God Bless you all!

[Quix]

I don't know if you have the option of a new doc or not.

I still think an MRI would be better at detecting where the stone was.

Did you ask the doc what he'd want done were he in your shoes?

If not, phone him and ask him, please!

I'm real sorry to read about this situation after your visit with the doc. I expected much better of him.

I don't know if there is a specialist in your area or not.

If not, perhaps Jim would support our tracking the nearest one down for you and getting you there with FREEPER help.

I suspect the doc has never had a kidney stone. It's amazing how insensitive, clueless and thoughtless otherwise quality MD's can be when it's not their pain involved.

Are you convinced this doc is the best in the area for that problem?

Are you convinced the doc has done all that can be done?

I'm not.

You deserve better, imho.

I want better for you.

Jim, what's your exhortation for our buddy in this situation? I'm just very, very uncomfortable thinking of him enduring this pain with this kind of medical care.

Am I being unreasonable?

[Quix]

I don't know if you have the option of a new doc or not.

I still think an MRI would be better at detecting where the stone was.

Did you ask the doc what he'd want done were he in your shoes?

If not, phone him and ask him, please!

I'm real sorry to read about this situation after your visit with the doc. I expected much better of him.

I don't know if there is a specialist in your area or not.

If not, perhaps Jim would support our tracking the nearest one down for you and getting you there with FREEPER help.

I suspect the doc has never had a kidney stone. It's amazing how insensitive, clueless and thoughtless otherwise quality MD's can be when it's not their pain involved.

Are you convinced this doc is the best in the area for that problem?

Are you convinced the doc has done all that can be done?

I'm not.

You deserve better, imho.

I want better for you.

Jim, what's your exhortation for our buddy in this situation? I'm just very, very uncomfortable thinking of him enduring this pain with this kind of medical care.

Am I being unreasonable?

[bvw]

Hope things go well, and he decides to be a bit more helpful at next consult. You might consider an imaging ultrasound -- should be able to get one for under $200.

[nopardons]

Good news.....maybe.

Please,please,PLEASE get another opinion and an MRI,just to be certain.

In any event, I'll continue praying for you.

[Congressman Billybob]

Old friend, you're not quite as old as me, but if you can, chalk it up to the creakiness of old age. And as Maurice Chevalier once said, "Old age is fine, when you consider the alternative."

Best wishes. I hope you're out of your pain shortly. (I had a doctor once say to me, "I pronounce you cured." After minor surgery for that problem some 15 years later, I was in fact cured. Sometimes doctors are vegue because they just don't know what's going on and want to cover their fannies. LOL.)

Cordially,

John / Billybob

[Alberta's Child]

I'm keeping you in my prayers, Budge. Hope everything works out well for you -- and may the Lord relieve your pain in the meantime.

[OldFriend]

Prayers and more prayers.

[Mo1]

Finally talked to the doctor. He told me nothing more than what he said last Monday, that the stone is not in the kidney, he doesn't know where it is.

Has he done any tests to find were the stone is and to make sure it is a stone?

If not .. Budge, please .. please get a second opinon

Still saying prayers for ya

[Orange1998]

I don't know if that is good news or bad news Budge. I would give it a few days and if it still hurts find another doctor fast. Good Luck.

[Alamo-Girl]

Jeepers, Budge! I pray you pass that stone right away!

[Cold Heat]

The only thing that I could advise you to do, is to have your doctor refer you to another that may be able to help you with the diagnoses.

Many things can cause back pain, including kidney and bladder problems. I have seen some prostate problems associated with back pain.

It could be something else.

A MRI is not a cure all, but it is great for soft tissue damage. X-ray and ultrasound should do the trick for stones, however a Cat scan with the intravenous stuff is really good for looking at the organs and surrounding structures and vessels, nerves and the like.

Kidney stones do not require MRI, as far as I know. If you have not passed a stone, or the doctor has not seen a stone in the images, then you may or may not have a stone problem.

I do not know what other tests you have had to eliminate other things like infections etc.

I would get a second opinion and your doctor can fix you up with one. It is possible that he is missing something. It won't hurt to get another opinion.