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Why should a person who disbelieves after becoming Muslim be executed?
Islam Q & A ^
| 29 March 2004
| Islam Q & A
Posted on 03/29/2004 8:09:22 AM PST by Salman
This harsh punishment is for a number of reasons:
1 This punishment is a deterrent to anyone who wants to enter Islam just to follow the crowd or for hypocritical purposes. This will motivate him to examine the matter thoroughly and not to proceed unless he understands the consequences of that in this world and in the Hereafter. The one who announces his Islam has agreed to adhere to all the rulings of Islam of his own free will and consent, one of which rulings is that he is to be executed if he apostatizes from the faith.
2 The one who announces his Islam has joined the jamaaah (main body) of the Muslims, and whoever joins the main body of the Muslims is required to be completely loyal and to support it and protect it against anything that may lead to fitnah or destroy it or cause division. Apostasy from Islam means forsaking the jamaaah and its divine order, and has a harmful effect on it. Execution is the greatest deterrent that will prevent people from committing such a crime.
3 Those Muslims who are weak in faith and others who are against Islam may think that the apostate has only left Islam because of what he has found out about its real nature, because if it were the truth then he would never have turned away from it. So they learn from him all the doubts, lies and fabrications which are aimed at extinguishing the light of Islam and putting people off from it. In this case executing the apostate is obligatory, in order to protect the true religion from the defamation of the liars and to protect the faith of its adherents and remove obstacles from the path of those who are entering the faith.
4 We also say that the death penalty exists in the modern laws of man to protect the system from disorder in some situation and to protect society against certain crimes which may cause its disintegration, such as drugs etc. If execution can serve as a deterrent to protect man-made systems, then it is more appropriate that the true religion of Allaah, which Falsehood cannot come to it from before it or behind it [cf. Fussilat 41:42], and which is all goodness, happiness and tranquility in this world and in the Hereafter should punish those who commit acts of aggression against it and seek to extinguish its light and defame its image, and who fabricate lies against it to justify their apostasy and deviation.
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KEYWORDS: apostate; deathpenalty; execution; fatwa; islam; muslims
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Just in case you were wondering.
TROPTM strikes again.
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posted on
03/29/2004 8:09:23 AM PST
by
Salman
To: Salman
The Religion Of Peace TM has no use for skeptics or heretics.
2
posted on
03/29/2004 8:11:20 AM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Salman
What about if they "convert" just to stay alive (like in the Sudan or Nigeria)?
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posted on
03/29/2004 8:12:31 AM PST
by
2banana
To: Salman
The correct answer is "Because Islam is a Homicide Cult".
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posted on
03/29/2004 8:16:34 AM PST
by
keithtoo
(W '04 - I'll pass on the ketchup-boy.)
To: Salman
No one expects the Islamic inquisition.
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posted on
03/29/2004 8:25:22 AM PST
by
Piranha
To: Salman
Islam Q&A Why should a person who disbelieves after becoming Muslim be executed?
Sorry, being a sovietologist, the analogy was just to perfect.
Stalinism Q&A
Why should a person who defects after becoming a member of the Communist party be executed?
1 This punishment is a deterrent to anyone who wants to enter the party just to follow the crowd or for hypocritical purposes. This will motivate him to examine the matter thoroughly and not to proceed unless he understands the consequences of that in this world and in the global struggle. The one who announces his party membership has agreed to adhere to all the rulings of the central committee of his own free will and consent, one of which rulings is that he is to be executed if he defects from the party.
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posted on
03/29/2004 8:27:07 AM PST
by
Odyssey-x
To: keithtoo
I am waiting for John Kerry to recognize this as a second exception to his opposition to the death penalty. After all, if radical Islam is against Bush, it must be good.
To: Salman
The catch is that this law doesn't only apply to people who have joined and then renounced. It applies equally to people who were born into the faith and then leave.
The bottom line is that for a muslim to leave the faith is a capital offense. In Saudi Arabia they take it seriously, and while most executions there are for murder or drug offenses, almost any week there would also be someone executed for "blasphemy". Blasphemy is what they call it if you deny Islam, such as, if you become a Christian.
Since you can avoid execution at any time by simply swearing that Muhammed is the prophet, and returning to the faith, at any time right up to the last moment, anyone who stands there and is executed is most probably a martyr of the first order. And there are people executed for "blasphemy" as I say, every week in Saudi Arabia. So Christianity must apparently be making inroads we are not aware of. And people are silently going to the headsman rather than recant.
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posted on
03/29/2004 8:32:25 AM PST
by
marron
To: Odyssey-x
Stalinism Q&A Sorry. The Muslims were there first.
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posted on
03/29/2004 8:37:07 AM PST
by
Salman
(Mickey Akbar)
To: Salman
Why should a person who disbelieves after becoming Muslim be executed? Why, you ask, should he not be executed BEFORE becoming Muslim, being that he is a swine-loving, dog-chasing infidel? The answer is that the Prophet so loved his children that he wanted to give them the opportunity to give up all their worldly possessions before disembowling them and making coin purses from their entrails.
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posted on
03/29/2004 8:40:24 AM PST
by
IronJack
To: keithtoo
Islam is the religion of peace. You can go in but you cannot go out. If you do, you will be peacefully executed.
To: Salman
Islam is a roach motel. You can check in but you can't check out.
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posted on
03/29/2004 8:53:27 AM PST
by
dennisw
(“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
To: henderson field
So what you're saying is, Islam is the Roach Motel of religions?
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posted on
03/29/2004 8:56:02 AM PST
by
brbethke
To: IronJack
Why, you ask, should he not be executed BEFORE becoming Muslim, being that he is a swine-loving, dog-chasing infidel? Because slaves are more useful than corpses.
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posted on
03/29/2004 9:03:59 AM PST
by
Salman
(Mickey Akbar)
To: dennisw
You can check in but you can't check out.Always read the fine print!
Caveat emptor.
Personally, I'd never give up bacon...ever. ;^)
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posted on
03/29/2004 9:07:32 AM PST
by
headsonpikes
(Spirit of '76 bttt!)
To: Salman
Wait a sec...if I understand correctly, forced conversions to Islam are par for the course. "Convert to the Religion of Peace or we kill you."
Now you're telling me that once in you will get killed if you want out. How is this any different from what happens in our inner cities when a young boy or girl is given the option of joining the local street gang or the option of ceasing to exist?
I wonder if the similarities are a reason for the expansion of Islam with our urban youth?
Things that make you go hmmmm.
Best Regards
Sergio
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posted on
03/29/2004 9:07:47 AM PST
by
Sergio
(If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
To: Salman; All
This strikes me as being in line with Marxist Communism.
When the Kommies take over a country, and that country's populous has second thoughts (Venezuela, Cuba, former Eastern Bloc countries), there is usually no turning back. Any citizens who advocate a return to the former condition are termed "COUNTER-REVOLUTIONARIES" and are rounded up executed.
Islamists = Totalitarian Marxists (Similarity?)
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posted on
03/29/2004 9:10:15 AM PST
by
DoctorMichael
(The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
To: Sergio
All that has been posted on this thread supports my contention that this crap not be treated as a religion at all. They know our laws and have wrapped themselves in the protection of the First Amendment claiming that these rantings are equal(or superior) to other religions.
The war is on, we are just prevented from fighting it because we are being lied to when we are told it is "a religion of piece".
BS to infinity.
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posted on
03/29/2004 9:17:51 AM PST
by
Wurlitzer
(I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
To: Wurlitzer
Islam... the religion of pieces
as in: deny Islam, and you will end up in two pieces - your body there, your head halfway across the courtyard somewhere else...
It's about time we stood up and named these extremists for what they are. Thugs, hoodlums and damned vermin who need extermination as soon as possible. I'm sorry if that offends anyone, but it's the only thing they seem to understand...
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posted on
03/29/2004 9:24:10 AM PST
by
KangarooJacqui
(Living next to the biggest Islamic country on earth, don't all Aussies deserve danger money?)
To: Salman
Execution is the greatest deterrent ....
Duh!!!
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posted on
03/29/2004 9:46:06 AM PST
by
Elsie
(When the avalanche starts... it's too late for the pebbles to vote....)
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