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NASA Scores Success in Space Travel 'Holy Grail'
Reuters ^ | Mon, Mar 29, 2004

Posted on 03/29/2004 8:07:39 AM PST by presidio9

A revolutionary jet engine flew faster than seven times the speed of sound in a high altitude test over the Pacific on Saturday, marking what NASA (news - web sites) scientists hailed as a milestone in developing the "Holy Grail" of space travel.

"It's been an outstanding, record-breaking day," lead propulsion engineer Lawrence Huebner told a post-flight briefing.

NASA's 12-foot-long X-43A research vehicle -- resembling a winged surfboard -- hit slightly over Mach 7, about 5,000 mph, during 11 seconds of powered flight before gliding at hypersonic speeds for several minutes and finally plunging into the ocean.

The test, conducted off the southern California coast, marked the first time that a "scramjet," or supersonic-combustion ramjet, has powered a vehicle at such high speed.

"The ramjet-scramjet is the Holy Grail of aeronautics in my mind," project manager Joel Sitz told the briefing. "If you go from ground to space, you need to use a ramjet-scramjet if you're going to do it in the most efficient way you can."

Rather than carrying both the fuel and oxygen needed to provide acceleration, like a conventional rocket engine does, scramjet engines carry only hydrogen fuel and pull the oxygen needed to burn that fuel from the atmosphere.

Researchers at the NASA Dryden Flight Research Center at Edwards Air Force Base, on the western edge of the Mojave Desert north of Los Angeles, hope the new engine will revolutionize aviation, speeding the development of significantly faster aircraft and lowering the cost of launching payloads.

Huebner said the test had set a world speed record for a craft powered by an air-breathing engine.

"To put this in perspective, a little over 100 years ago a couple of guys from Ohio flew for 120 feet in the first controlled powered flight," he said, referring to the Wright brothers.

"Today, we did something very similar in the same amount of time, but our vehicle under air-breathing power went over 15 miles."

Project members said the successful test had important commercial and military implications.

"Efficient access to space opens up a whole new world for industry in the future, to be able to get to space and get back, quickly, and do it several times a month," Sitz said.

Project chief engineer Griffin Corpening said NASA had shown what was possible. "Now business and industry and the military can come forward with confidence that they can now use this kind of a propulsion system," he said.

The first test of the X-43A in June 2001 ended in failure after a malfunction in the booster rocket attached to the test vehicle forced NASA scientists to blow up the plane.

During Saturday's test, a modified B-52 bomber dropped the X-43A at an altitude of around 40,000 feet.

A rocket attached to the 2,800-pound research vehicle then boosted it to an altitude of 95,000 feet, setting the stage for the scramjet engine test.

Later this year, NASA researchers hope to test the engine at Mach 10, or about 7,000 mph, as part of their Hyper-X program.

The vehicle used in Saturday's test will not be recovered from the ocean due to the high cost of such an effort.


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KEYWORDS: mach7; nasa; space; x43a
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1 posted on 03/29/2004 8:07:39 AM PST by presidio9
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"Maybe now we can get off this d@mn rock!"
      - John Bigboote
2 posted on 03/29/2004 8:12:13 AM PST by 50sDad ( ST3d - Star Trek Tri-D Chess! http://my.oh.voyager.net/~abartmes)
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3 posted on 03/29/2004 8:15:51 AM PST by presidio9 (protectionism is a false god)
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They didn't fully indicate if the craft was meant to splashdown in the ocean or not. One would think they'd want to analyze the the engine after use.
4 posted on 03/29/2004 8:16:11 AM PST by zeugma (The Great Experiment is over.)
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To: presidio9
They must be using Bubba's New American Dictionary if success means crashing into the ocean.
5 posted on 03/29/2004 8:17:00 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: 50sDad

"We seek the grail"
6 posted on 03/29/2004 8:21:20 AM PST by keithtoo (W '04 - I'll pass on the ketchup-boy.)
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To: zeugma
They didn't fully indicate if the craft was meant to splashdown in the ocean or not. One would think they'd want to analyze the the engine after use.

This plane was never intended to be recovered. This experiment was just to see if the scramjets could be made to fly the plane at Mach 7. There is still a ton of more testing to do before they can begin to think abiut practical aspects.

7 posted on 03/29/2004 8:22:04 AM PST by presidio9 (protectionism is a false god)
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To: mtbopfuyn; zeugma
You clearly haven't read the experiment plan. "Success" is defined as the engine operating in free flight, and producing positive acceleration. This occurred; the SCRamjet accelerated the vehicle from Mach 3(ish) to slightly over Mach 7. As the engine has no moving parts, studying it post flight would be only mildly interesting. Apparently that interest does not jutify the cost of recovery. Early experiments in rocketry were similar, even in cases with complex potentially reusable liquid fueled engines. Indeed, to this day a successful rocket launch results in the total loss of the launch vehicle.

One would be wise, before pontificating on the success of an experiment, to acquaint oneself with the actual goals of the experiment.

8 posted on 03/29/2004 8:25:07 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Chief Engineer, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemens' Club)
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To: 50sDad
"Your overthrusters are shit Lord Whorfin!"
9 posted on 03/29/2004 8:25:38 AM PST by Dixiekraut (qb....)
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To: 50sDad
I doubt the oscillating overthruster was used in this test. Yo-Yodine Industries would never hand it over.

Seriously though, way too much in the way of airfoil and fuselage design(specifically shape change in flight) needs to happen before any enthusiasm is expressed for this technology.

The lift ratio at sea level for a plane at 100KTS or takeoff/landing speeds would be something like several thousand times greater than travelling at hypersonic speeds. How to stay aloft and in control at both speed extremes without tearing the wings off or airfoil stalling at 500KTS is problematic.

I love the hypersonic glide highlight. Rocks, broken up space shuttles, comets, and Skylab have been there and done that.

10 posted on 03/29/2004 8:27:19 AM PST by blackdog (I feed the sheep the coyotes eat)
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To: zeugma
It was meant to go into the Pacific & I doubt there was any serious thought given to trying to catch it on the way down.

This thing is an unguided missile,
Given prior failure, there was no way to predict trajectory,
Given potential speed/distance, there was no way to predict touch down point,
I'd have to beieve they consider "the ocean" as about as concise a definition of "target" as you could devise.
I'm quite sure no one wanted it landing in Cleveland, maybe San Francisco (close enough to the Pacific) but not the heartland.

The scramjet itself is fairly simple, it might just be more cost effective to build another or fly the backup next time.

11 posted on 03/29/2004 8:32:23 AM PST by norton
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To: mtbopfuyn
Expendable test bed, by design, to prove the scramjet would work. Why waste money to recover a system that might not even work. Now that the concept is show to work, recovering will be come more important.

This was a very sucessful test. By an engineering definition.
12 posted on 03/29/2004 8:35:08 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: presidio9
I'm happy to see that Ronald Regan's "Orient Express" has survived in one form after the Clinton Budget cuts in the 90's.
13 posted on 03/29/2004 8:37:59 AM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: blackdog
"The lift ratio at sea level for a plane at 100KTS or takeoff/landing speeds would be something like several thousand times greater than traveling at hypersonic speeds."

I don't believe that scramjets have ever been intended for use at sea level. Hence the boost phase before ignition, with lift and drag pressure taking a bigger lifting/maneuvering role at hypersonic speeds. For sea-level landing, some sort of lifting/maneuvering tech will be employed that is different than the hypersonic systems.

Swing wings retracted for hypersonic flight, extended for sonic/subsonic flight. Essentially a really big F-14?
14 posted on 03/29/2004 8:41:55 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: norton
I'm quite sure no one wanted it landing in Cleveland, maybe San Francisco (close enough to the Pacific)

When you have an object traveling in excess of 5000 mph, practically any spot in the US would be at risk.

15 posted on 03/29/2004 8:46:23 AM PST by presidio9 (protectionism is a false god)
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To: blackdog
What's that waterrmellon doing there?
16 posted on 03/29/2004 9:45:15 AM PST by 50sDad ( ST3d - Star Trek Tri-D Chess! http://my.oh.voyager.net/~abartmes)
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To: presidio9

HELLO!!!

It ain't SPACE travel to suck up OXYGEN from the ATMOSPHERE to run the engine!!!
17 posted on 03/29/2004 9:49:35 AM PST by Elsie (When the avalanche starts... it's too late for the pebbles to vote....)
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To: ArrogantBustard
arrogantbustard, My post was more of a query than a statement. Thanks for your response though.
18 posted on 03/29/2004 9:52:40 AM PST by zeugma (The Great Experiment is over.)
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To: Elsie
Perhaps, but to get to space in the first place, one has to cross the atmosphere, and at our current level of technology, efficient atmospheric travel that can achieve escape velocity is our major obstacle to further space exploration.
19 posted on 03/29/2004 10:08:16 AM PST by thoughtomator (Voting Bush because there is no reasonable alternative)
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To: presidio9
If they use this as a stage in an orbital flight, the trajectory is going to be strange compared to ordinary rocket launches. Takeoff will be as usual with a big dumb booster, but the scramship will then have to fly horizontally at an altitude while it builds up speed. A third stage would be needed to circularize the orbit. Although the air is thin, atmospheric heating would be intense when they get to significant speed in the air, just like reentry.
20 posted on 03/29/2004 10:12:57 AM PST by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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