Al-Qa'ida 9/11 chief reveals US got off lightly

The Australian, From The Sunday Times ^ | March 29, 2004 | Sunday Times sources

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[an amused spectator]

I want to hear reports of large,burly men wielding lengths of pipe to get the information that we want out of these douchebags.

Zed's dead, honey.

[BlazingArizona]

"Afghans freed from Bagram claim to have been subjected to sleep deprivation and extremes of hot and cold. There have also been reports of truth drugs." I want to hear reports of large,burly men wielding lengths of pipe to get the information that we want out of these douchebags.

That would be morally satisfying, to be sure, but you get much more useful information with drugs.

[McGavin999]

Someone want to send a copy of this to the airheads in California? How about some of our California Freepers printing this out and handing it out? I think they really ought to know how close they came.

[Robert Teesdale]

Despite the surrender of Al Andalusa, millions of human beings will continue to fight against Islamofascism. Thankfully for humanity, the ones at the front lines are Americans.

Written well before 9-11

We will conquer in the name of what is right.

[endthematrix]

Any info on the snatch of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed? Specifically, was psychotropic drugs used prior to his capture? Bush said in the STOU speech that when Khalid awoke he saw his captures. He was looking a little disheveled and drug administration prior to the raid wouldn't be far fetched

[al baby]

I wonder what Osama's screen name is?
Carpetjockeyone

[risk]

"...when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel." --your quote of George Washington.

George Washington was a neocon? He might have chosen to launch an attack against an enemy just for the effect it could have on our global stature? Elenor Clift exclaimed today on the McLaughlin Group that our casualties in Iraq were in vain because they were expended in an optional war. Yet George Washington might have actually ordered optional military actions in the interest of liberty, and for the advantage of the U.S.A. Interesting.

Maybe Elenor Clift should study her history a bit more. She might find out just why she's free to attack the president of the United States of America on international television without so much as a ripple in her own personal status. It's because of people like Washington and their boldness that she can say what she pleases. And I'm happy for it.

[PeoplesRepublicOfWashington]

How do people say 'Al Queda'?<P Repeat after me: F...ing evil vermin.

[easonc52]

That's one of the better pronunciations I've heard:)

[endthematrix]

Recognized your name. Wonderful flash. A while back, I spent the better part of the night watching Tyranny Response Team (anti-UN) propaganda. I'm fully indoctrinated now...actually I always was, just more angry and better armed. Fellow FReepers should check here.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Any info on the snatch of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed?

No Idea, but I may have missed a thread when he was captured.

[risk]

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[glock rocks]

ping

[Wil H]

We should never forget that what happened on 9/11 was an attempt to kill 50,000 people.

[ccmay]

I want to hear reports of large,burly men wielding lengths of pipe to get the information that we want out of these douchebags.

At a visceral level, I do too. Not just pipes, but blowtorches, pliers, hungry rats, and alligator clips connecting scrotums and anuses to hand-cranked field telephones.

But I have been persuaded that such methods, apart from lowering ourselves to the level of the likes of Saddam, are counterproductive. Tortured men will say whatever they think their tormenters want to hear.

It is supposedly far more effective to subject people to psychological pressure. Sleep deprivation, manipulation of the environment to disrupt body clocks, long exposure to heat/cold/dripping water, sensory deprivation, tiny cells that force the body into uncomfortable postures-- these are the physically harmless tools of the modern interrogator.

After the subject is broken by fatigue and environmental stress, more pressure is brought to bear in the form of threats to the subject's family, placing turncoats and impostors with him in his cell, and prolonged interrogation by native Arabic speakers in dark rooms under the influence of drugs like hashish and Versed and scopolamine.

Even the toughest nuts usually crack under such pressures.

All of this is a very good thing, of course, and I hope we are applying such techniques assiduously to large numbers of the Mahometan filth.

-ccm

[KangarooJacqui]

We should never forget that what happened on 9/11 was an attempt to kill 50,000 people.

Too right. In fact, I first turned on the tv when both planes had hit and the towers were well and truly on fire. "Oh my god... all those people..." I tried to do the mental calculations in my head, and at an absolute minimum I thought they'd killed ten thousand plus.

I'm still pleasantly amazed they didn't, whilst sad and angry for those who didn't make it. NEVER FORGET...

[ladyinred]

I agree, and was thinking that as I read this. How dare they try to say this President didn't do enough. Think what would have happened had Clinton still be in office! I shudder at the thought.

[Cindy]

Yep.

[MEG33]

Wonder what city on the West Coast is targeted or if it is still being pursued.There is no doubt that we have deterred some attacks.

What kind of reaction did they perceive?Had we indicated our lack of resolve so thoroughly?It seems,we had.

The Spanish people must ,in spite of the new government,indicate that they are ruthless in the pursuit and punishment of the terrorists or they will be just another soft target.

The Mayasian/Indonesian/Phillipino/ hotbed of terrorism can still cause a lot of damage.Take care Down Under.